Future Events Blackbeard is going after Pluton (with all the proof you need)

#1
I've been seeing a lot of confusion about what Blackbeard could be going after as of Chapter 956. I'm here to essentially confirm to you that it is not:

- A former shichibukai
- Sabo or his Devil Fruit

While also telling you that what Blackbeard IS going after is Pluton. But first, a history lesson:

- In Chapter 203, Crocodile and Robin arrive at the Alabasta's Poneglyph with Cobra. Here, Crocodile demands Robin to read the information off of this Poneglyph. This Poneglyph is confirmed to contain the information of Pluton's location. Robin gave Crocodile false informtion on the Poneglyph, citing Alabastan history instead.





- Chapter 218, Robin confirms to Cobra that she lied to Crocodile about the Weapon.


- Que Water 7. There are multiple chapters that discuss CP-9's goals, so I won't reference all of them. However, to summarize: They were looking for the Original Blueprints to Pluton. These Blueprints were created, not as a means to make Pluton for evil purposes, but to make the weapon/ship again in case the first is revived or found.

- Chapter 375 explains it perfectly well: Franky can build a 2nd one, and Robin can find and activate the first that "already exists" with her knowledge.


- The two keys insinuate 2 different methods of activating versions of the weapon. One needs to be built (Blueprints). The other needs to be found (Poneglpyh)

- Chapter 399 explains something that I'm surprised so many people misunderstand. Franky destroyed the original blueprints because he finally trusted Robin and wanted to screw over Spandam's plans. He puts full faith in Robin here, taking a gamble by destroying these blueprints. If the original is found, the world does not have a countermeasure against it.




- After this point, Robin is saved, the world is back to normal right? Wrong.

- Nearly 420 chapters later, Cobra and Vivi are heading to the Reverie. Cobra means to ask the the Gorosei about the Poneglyph and the Nefeltari history:


- Fast Forward another 90 chapters to Chapter 908, where the Gorosei essentially say they intend to KILL Cobra. Not on that, Im clearly wants Vivi for some reason.




- Fast forward again to Chapter 956. This happens:



- We do not learn of this incident that chapter. However, what we do know from this is that a terrible incident happened after Garp left (so after the Reverie), and as a result, the Marines are using their FULL resources to handle it. This is huge. We also know that this HAS TO DO WITH ALABASTA.

- The other only things that were explicitly stated were that there was a death, an attempted assassination, and the abolition of the Shichibukai. Additionally, Wapol leaked something else. More on that in a minute.

- This same chapter, Blackbeard is shown saying if the Marines are going after it (an object/weapon/item), then he may as well take it for himself. This is the RELATED TO ALABASTA, judging by the fact that Garp says the Marines are spent dealing with this problem.




- Here is the biggest piece of information that came out of all of this. Koby mentions to Drake that the Marines can't "keep up with it all" even with the number of forces they have:


- That right there should tell you that their WORLD resources can't even keep up with it. This indicates that information about something leaked and the Marines are likely dealing with Pirates trying to follow said information.

- Why is the above likely correct? Because Blackbeard himself found it out, meaning its public information. Doflamingo is reading the newspaper as well, they all are.



Here is a summary:

Nefertari Cobra likely was killed in the event of him trying to confront the Gorosei. Somehow, during this incident, information the whereabouts of the Original Pluton leaked from here. This information spread to Wapol, who then leaked it to Morgans. This HAS to be the information Wapol leaked, because the other 3 pieces of news had nothing to do with information getting out that the world would see. Morgans is the type of person to publish this info. They have NOTHING to do with the Marines freaking out about lacking resources to "keep up with it all" or Blackbeard mobilizing as a result of what he found out.

As for the Death and the Assassination, I won't be taking guesses at what the public info was, but you can see who I think really died at the Reverie, public news or not.


Tldr: Blackbeard is going after the Original Pluton, and Wapol leaked it. It was specifically specified that Alabasta is the center of this problem. The Marines are dealing with Pluton's location being leaked around the World, fending off every Pirate going after the weapon. This is why they can't lend forces to Wano (save for maybe Sword) for the Rocks problem, they are dealing with the Shichibukai and this incident simultaneously.


Edit: Here's another little thing to think about: The Marines would rather deal with this rather than sending forces to deal with "Rocks". This indicates this scenario is much worse than Kaido and Big Moms deal. Oda is preparing for some world ending shit with Blackbeard.
 
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Jew D. Boy

I Can Go Lower
#2
I've been seeing a lot of confusion about what Blackbeard could be going after as of Chapter 956. I'm here to essentially confirm to you that it is not:

- A former shichibukai
- Sabo or his Devil Fruit

While also telling you that what Blackbeard IS going after is Pluton. But first, a history lesson:

- In Chapter 203, Crocodile and Robin arrive at the Alabasta's Poneglyph with Cobra. Here, Crocodile demands Robin to read the information off of this Poneglyph. This Poneglyph is confirmed to contain the information of Pluton's location. Robin give Crocodile false informtion on the Poneglyph, citing Alabastan history instead.





- Chapter 218, Robin confirms to Cobra that she lied to Crocodile about the Weapon. It is confirmed that this Poneglpyh has Pluton's whereabouts on it. It is not confirmed if it is on Alabasta or not however.


- Que Water 7. There are multiple chapters that discuss CP-9's goals, so I won't reference all of them. However, to summarize: They were looking for the Original Blueprints to Pluton. These Blueprints were created, not as a means to make Pluton for evil purposes, but to make the weapon/ship again in case the first is revived or found.

- Chapter 375 explains it perfectly well: Franky can build a 2nd one, and Robin can find and activate the first that "already exists" with her knowledge.


- The two keys insinuate 2 different methods of activating versions of the weapon. One needs to be built (Blueprints). The other needs to be found (Poneglpyh)

- Chapter 399 explains something that I'm surprised so many people misunderstand. Franky destroyed the original blueprints because he finally trusted Robin and wanted to screw over Spandam's plans. He puts full faith in Robin here, taking a gamble by destroying these blueprints. If the original is found, the world does not have a countermeasure against it.




- After this point, Robin is saved, the world is back to normal right? Wrong.

- Nearly 420 chapters later, Cobra and Vivi are heading to the Reverie. Cobra means to ask the the Gorosei about the Poneglyph and the Nefeltari history:


- Fast Forward another 90 chapters to Chapter 908, where the Gorosei essentially say they intend to KILL Cobra. Not on that, Im clearly wants Vivi for some reason.




- Fast forward again to Chapter 956. This happens:



- We do not learn of this incident that chapter. However, what we do know from this is that a terrible incident happened after Garp left (so after the Reverie), and as a result, the Marines are using their FULL resources to handle it. This is huge. We also know that this HAS TO DO WITH ALABASTA.

- The other only things that were explicitly stated were that there was a death, an attempted assassination, and the abolition of the Shichibukai. Additionally, Wapol leaked something else. More on that in a minute.

- This same chapter, Blackbeard is shown saying if the Marines are going after it (an object/weapon/item), then he may as well take it for himself. This is the RELATED TO ALABASTA, judging by the fact that Garp says the Marines are spent dealing with this problem.




- Here is the biggest piece of information that came out of all of this. Koby mentions to Drake that the Marines can't "keep up with it all" even with the number of forces they have:


- That right there should tell you that their WORLD resources can't even keep up with it. This indicates that information about something leaked and the Marines are likely dealing with Pirates trying to follow said information.

- Why is the above correct? Because Blackbeard himself found it out, meaning its public information.



Here is a summary:

Nefertari Cobra likely was killed in the event of him trying to confront the Gorosei. Somehow, during this incident, information the whereabouts of the Original Pluton leaked from here. This information spread to Wapol, who then leaked it to Morgans. This HAS to be the information Wapol leaked, because the other 3 pieces of news had nothing to do with information getting out that the world would see. Morgans is the type of person to publish this info. They have NOTHING to do with the Marines freaking out about lacking resources to "keep up with it all" or Blackbeard mobilizing as a result of what he found out.

As for the Death and the Assassination, I won't be taking guesses at what the public info was, but you can see who I think really died at the Reverie, public news or not.


Tldr: Blackbeard is going after the Original Pluton, and Wapol leaked it. the Marines are dealing with Pluton's location being leaked around the World, fending off every Pirate going after the weapon. This is why they can't lend forces to Wano (save for maybe Sword) for the Rocks problem, they are dealing with the Shichibukai and this incident simultaneously.
I was already of the belief that Blackbeard was going after an object or place rather than a person/DF, but this lays it all out extremely well. I bet Cobra's death wasn't made public at the same time as Pluton's existence, wouldn't look great on the WG for a royal to die at the Reverie. Pell, Chaka, and Igaram are in for a rude fuckin' awakening...
 
#3
Wow man, just wow..!! Putting together all these pieces of puzzles to create a Theory of this caliber..:hohoho:
now that you put them all together like this, it all makes total sense. Also by judging the conversation between Coby and Drake, did the Navy already acquired it or the Pirates went after it like One Piece treasure..?? Did BB took any big revolt against the WG..??:hope:
 
#4
Wow man, just wow..!! Putting together all these pieces of puzzles to create a Theory of this caliber..:hohoho:
now that you put them all together like this, it all makes total sense. Also by judging the conversation between Coby and Drake, did the Navy already acquired it or the Pirates went after it like One Piece treasure..?? Did BB took any big revolt against the WG..??:hope:
My guess is they haven't yet, or only that a general location was leaked (like an area, not specifically an island yet). The Marines right now are trying to hold back every pirate gunning for it as well as ringing in the Shichibukai, but not one party has found it atm.


Kind of like how the SAD/Smile plotline has been the center of the Yonko saga so far, I think Pluton's location and the ramifications of the Reverie are going to be the center of what comes after Wano (aka, another string of arcs that leads to Laugh Tale/The Final War)
 
#7
How about, they assume pluton is located in alabasta. After that they're planning to dig all around desert without knowing the exact location of pluton

or maybe

pluton is located underneath wano. Then all big player will go to wano
Both are unlikely, imo.

- It being in Alabasta would sort of remove the whole reason for even having a Poneglyph describing its location there in the first place I'd say. Sort of like how Skypiea has the poneglyph describing Poseidon and its location, but Poseidon wasn't on Skypiea. (Robin only revealed that it mentioned Fishman Island when she talked to Neptune, she never revealed it on Skypiea)

- If it was on Wano, then the Marines would 100% have lent their forces to Wano like Kizaru wanted. As of right now, they care more about this than 2 Yonko teaming up on Wano, meaning it's likely not on Wano.
 
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#9
I believe the Pluton will be in Elbaf. Remember that Giant Straw-hat..?? It will also help the Pluton plot to coincide with SHs.
Possibly, but I have some, granted not very well supported, theories about Elbaf actually dealing with Uranus. It has to do with its massive tree reaching sky islands, enel returning, urogue being a major factor and the fact that Uranus means "God of the Sky", but it all hinges on Elbaf also being another Sky island/Moon arc on top of being related to Giants lol so we'll see.

I think if it's either it's fine. Uranus still needs to be revealed, just like Pluton
 
#13
Possibly, but I have some, granted not very well supported, theories about Elbaf actually dealing with Uranus. It has to do with its massive tree reaching sky islands, enel returning, urogue being a major factor and the fact that Uranus means "God of the Sky", but it all hinges on Elbaf also being another Sky island/Moon arc on top of being related to Giants lol so we'll see.

I think if it's either it's fine. Uranus still needs to be revealed, just like Pluton
Are you talking about the one in Skypiea or something else. Because Enel and Skypiea were in the Paradise sphere, while Elbaf is in the NW
 
#15
The glimpse we got of Elbaf in BM's flashback showed there is a behemoth of a tree there that reaches up into the sky
And not only that, but Oda seemed to suggest that its so massive it sprawls past the horizon here:



You can see the base of the tree on the far right of the picture, but then look in the background, what the hell are those lol? Its almost kind of like how the Gates of Justice were shown in the background when Enies Lobby was first revealed, impossibly massive structures on a Giant Island.

Are you talking about the one in Skypiea or something else. Because Enel and Skypiea were in the Paradise sphere, while Elbaf is in the NW
It would be other sky islands. Gan Fall told the Strawhats that there were clearly other methods to travel up to a Sky Island (High West) but never elaborates beyond that. This could be that method. We really just don't know yet.
 
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#16
Pluto with Teach
Poseidon & Zunisha with Luffy
Uranus with Dragon or Imu

Let the world crumble for ancient weapons
 
#17
If poneglyph in Skypea showed location of Poseidon in the place that was directly opposite from the 'sky' by being under 'ground' (ocean), then it would make sense if location of Pluton is located in the place that is opposite from the desert. Which means it is located somewhere where there is a lot of water. Water 7 was kind of a place like that but it had blueprints not the original. Plus it is a ship which would make sense for it to be in the place with lots of water.
 
#18
If poneglyph in Skypea showed location of Poseidon in the place that was directly opposite from the 'sky' by being under 'ground' (ocean), then it would make sense if location of Pluton is located in the place that is opposite from the desert. Which means it is located somewhere where there is a lot of water. Water 7 was kind of a place like that but it had blueprints not the original. Plus it is a ship which would make sense for it to be in the place with lots of water.
Let me correct it for you. Poneglyph that tells poseidon location is in city of shandora. Originally, Shandora is located in Jaya and then, the city was thrown to the sky island by knock up stream
 
#19
Let me correct it for you. Poneglyph that tells poseidon location is in city of shandora. Originally, Shandora is located in Jaya and then, the city was thrown to the sky island by knock up stream
Yep, there are probably 0 patterns to it, just a Poneglyph that has information on a weapon, 3 in all (or so we think). Im sure Oda will disclose all 30 poneglyphs by the end of the series
 
#20
This is an extremely convincing theory and would likely be what actually happened. Don't know if you mentioned it somewhere around the theory but there's another hint between Teach's interest in ancient weapons/Poneglyphs (Vivre cards said he likes to research history) and Xebec's interest in forbidden information knowing the already established connection between them.

The world is going to collapse if the ancient weapons fell in his hands.
 
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