Questions & Mysteries Blackbeard's Ultimate Goal

[Erkan12]

Can you get your fucking head out of your ass for once and use common sense? Jesus is every single one of your post agenda based? The Warlords have had their own agenda since Alabasta

What agenda Mihawk, Hancock, Jinbe, Kuma, Weevil had? You are talking about exceptions like Croc, BB and Dof who were removed.

Once its obvious they are against the will of the Larines and Government, Shichibukai loses their spot, is this too hard for your little brain to understand?

 

[Roo]

What agenda Mihawk, Hancock, Jinbe, Kuma, Weevil had? You are talking about exceptions like Croc, BB and Dof who were removed.

Once its obvious they are against the will of the Larines and Government, Shichibukai loses their spot, is this too hard for your little brain to understand?

Kuma is literally a Revo agent, Jinbe, Hancock openly oppose the WG and Mihawk rarely follows orders. They mostly all have their own agenda. Again read Doffy's quote, he ask which of the Warlords would use their trickery to rule the seas? Clearly alluding to the fact that they all have their own goals away from the WG

 

[Deatheye]

Probably wants to do whatever Rocks did before him.

I think he's actually becoming a WG king after capturing Garp and will be Imu's ally in the final war.

The last two big villain groups (BBP and WG) will be dealt with simultaneously, not separately.

 

[gz89]

Can you get your fucking head out of your ass for once and use common sense? Jesus is every single one of your post agenda based? The Warlords have had their own agenda since Alabasta

 

[Erkan12]

Kuma is literally a Revo agent, Jinbe, Hancock openly oppose the WG and Mihawk rarely follows orders. They mostly all have their own agenda. Again read Doffy's quote, he ask which of the Warlords would use their trickery to rule the seas? Clearly alluding to the fact that they all have their own goals away from the WG

You are just being a troll here due to your BB butthurt now. Doesn't matter what Kuma was, he was Government's bitch in the end. When Doflamingo was cornered, he couldn't let his Shichibukai title away. Government's bitch again, Mihawk didn't want to leave and was forced to fight WB Pirates, Hancock is the same, she was going to lose her title if she didn't fight. Once Jinbe oppose the government lost his title immediately, they were Government's underlings in the end as long as they stay as Shichibukai, only one who tricked them for good was BB, and that lasted very short.

Shichibukai and Larines were not in battle for supremacy, they are underlings of Government at the end of the day.

The point is, King of the World is harder to become compared to Pirate King, that's where your butthurt started to get bigger, and you started to spout this asspull nonsense about Government being in the supremacy, who said they aren't? But once BB becomes the King of the World, Shichibukai and Larines becomes their bitch. Thats something Pirate King couldn't do.

King of the World: fights only new pirates.

King of the Pirates: fights new pirates, fights government, fights larines, fights shichibukai, fights CP0 etc etc

King of the World is much harder.

You understand now kiddo?

No wonder ZKKboys licking a BB hating clown's ass, not surprised.

 

[gz89]

No wonder ZKKboys licking a BB hating clown's ass, not surprised.

Man i swear you are hilarious every time i read your posts it makes my day.

Idc about your cope threads and butthurt posts at all but please dont stop posting these funny stuff.

 

[Peenix]

So a big question that has been asked with the recent reveal in this last chapter, is why exactly does Blackbeard care to have his Island officially sanctioned by the World Government, and to recognize him as a King? It's hard to believe that Blackbeard patiently waited for 20 years to get his hands on the Yami Yami no Mi, went after the Gura, and eventually gained Yonko status, all so he can rise up in the World, and become a King of his own Country.

Speaking of those things though, they do showcase one thing about Blackbeard, and that is the fact that he doesn't do anything without reason. The man is calculating in everything he does, and everything he does serves a purpose for further a bigger agenda. Now awhile back, I had made a post that I believe @Nidai_Kitetsu can provide, about how I believed that Blackbeard's Ultimate goal extend beyond just wanting to be the Pirate King, but rather given the similarities between him and Xebec, I believe that Blackbeard's Ultimate Goal is to become King of the World. I think chapter 1080, has even further solidified that notion.

Going back to the fact that everything Blackbeard does is to serve a purpose for a bigger agenda, we have to ask ourselves, what is the one thing that becoming a King recognized by the World Government that would be most beneficial to Blackbeard? The answer is pretty simple. It gains him access to Mariejois. And what happens to be on Mariejois? That would be the "Empty Throne" where the King of the World sits. Now one can argue that it could be their National Treasure, which is heavily implied to be Uranus, that he is after, but if that was there case, there are two other Ancient Weapons in the World that require much less plotting and scheming to acquire, and Blackbeard doesn't seem to be interested in either of them. That leaves the only other option, and the one that makes the most sense, the Empty Throne, as being his true objective. I think even the fact that Oda brought up Blackbeard wanting to be a "King" of his own nation, was a subtle hint to his main objective.

This also ties back into what I said earlier, about how Blackbeard has patiently waited for decades to make his move. If just becoming a King was his ultimate goal, there was a myriad of ways he could have gone about it throughout his life. But before he even tried to make that a reality, the first thing he acquired was power. This is most likely due to the fact, that he knows that once he makes it to Mariejois, he is going to need the strength to overthrow the "Silent King" of the World, Im-Sama.

This makes the most sense to me, as Blackbeard has always felt like he had bigger ambitions than just becoming the Pirate King. Blackbeard is the only other character in the entire series that we have seen rise up in the ranks alongside Luffy, even if Blackbeards journey has been in the background, and not once, have we ever seen Blackbeard express his desire to be Pirate King.

Everything is just a means to an end for Blackbeard. From becoming a Pirate, to becoming a member of a Shichibukai, to becoming a Yonko, to now wanting to become the King of his own Country. He doesn't care about being a Pirate. He doesn't care about being a Yonko. He doesn't really care about being a King of his own Country. No.... He doesn't care about anything of those things. The only thing Blackbeard cares about, is becoming the King of the World.

I mean yeah
Rocks D. Xebec is a pretty blatant parallel to Blackbeard, and his goal was to become king of the world. BB's endgame isn't exactly being kept ambiguous

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You are just being a troll here due to your BB butthurt now. Doesn't matter what Kuma was, he was Government's bitch in the end. When Doflamingo was cornered, he couldn't let his Shichibukai title away. Government's bitch again, Mihawk didn't want to leave and was forced to fight WB Pirates, Hancock is the same, she was going to lose her title if she didn't fight. Once Jinbe oppose the government lost his title immediately, they were Government's underlings in the end as long as they stay as Shichibukai, only one who tricked them for good was BB, and that lasted very short.

Shichibukai and Larines were not in battle for supremacy, they are underlings of Government at the end of the day.

The point is, King of the World is harder to become compared to Pirate King, that's where your butthurt started to get bigger, and you started to spout this asspull nonsense about Government being in the supremacy, who said they aren't? But once BB becomes the King of the World, Shichibukai and Larines becomes their bitch. Thats something Pirate King couldn't do.

King of the World: fights only new pirates.

King of the Pirates: fights new pirates, fights government, fights larines, fights shichibukai, fights CP0 etc etc

King of the World is much harder.

You understand now kiddo?


No wonder ZKKboys licking a BB hating clown's ass, not surprised.

You realize that a big part of BB's character is that he's a coward who uses other people to get ahead, right?
I really like his character but the guy coasts off other people

 

[BlackLegFring]

It really just seems like a random reason thrown in by Oda to justify Koby’s abduction.
He already betrayed the government, and on worldwide TV too. They have no reason to listen to him at all, especially for a Marine captain…no matter the clunky and hamfisted attempts to portray him as a saint.

Trying to sit on the Empty Throne doesn’t make much sense either since that’s just a death sentence that the Navy would be happy to enact. He wouldn’t have any loyalties besides his own crew which would just get wiped out by the Navy & Seraphim.

 

[Phoenix D. King]

Is he trying to make it to Laughtale for the chance to be Pirate King, or could it be for some other reason? Again back to one of my main points in my post.... Everything Blackbeard does, it is for a reason. One thing is irrefutable, and that is the fact that becoming a King of his own Country, does not get him one step closer to Laugh Tale.

hes trying to accomplish more than anyone else ever has

create a legacy greater than anyones too

he is aiming to not only become Pirate King, but also someone with real power in the eyes of the WG

 

[Gol D. Bullet]

This is why BB has been quiet and content to let Luffy take on the Yonko because defeating Kaido and Big Mom would be dangerous side quests that would detract from his true goal to become the King of the World.

We have seen though BB hasn't just been sitting on his laurels, the man has been collecting devil fruits that will help him achieve his ambitions. Right now, the BB pirates are shaping up to be the most versatile crew in the series, Each Titantic Captain has a devil fruit that benefits Teach's plans. Just the few captains we have seen recently already illustrate this point.

Pizarro who can control any island he is in, which is perfect for controlling the Red Line.
Van Auger who can teleport to any location with quick timing.
Catarina and Shiryu who can infiltrate and manipulate the WG and Marine Command Structures

This is why Moria was captured because his devil fruit is perfect for someone that raise an army of the dead which suits Teach's interests. What happens to Moria and his devil fruit is still up in the air but there's no question that Teach wants it especially if it works in tandem with the Yami Yami no Mi. I suspect Perona will be taken hostage so that BB can force Moria to do his bidding.

All of these devil fruits will be essential in Teach taking over Mary Geoise, overthrow Imu and sit on the Empty Throne. I anticipate that we could see the BB pirates slaughter the Celestial Dragons to mark the moment and set the stage between Luffy and BB over the fate of the World.

I also believe that Oda gave us glimpses of what Teach's past might have looked like in Wano, through Orochi's backstory, someone who did not care about the people of Wano but wanted to stay in charge to rule over the ashes. Teach is going to be Orochi on steroids if he takes over the world.

 

[nik87]

So a big question that has been asked with the recent reveal in this last chapter, is why exactly does Blackbeard care to have his Island officially sanctioned by the World Government, and to recognize him as a King? It's hard to believe that Blackbeard patiently waited for 20 years to get his hands on the Yami Yami no Mi, went after the Gura, and eventually gained Yonko status, all so he can rise up in the World, and become a King of his own Country.

Speaking of those things though, they do showcase one thing about Blackbeard, and that is the fact that he doesn't do anything without reason. The man is calculating in everything he does, and everything he does serves a purpose for further a bigger agenda. Now awhile back, I had made a post that I believe @Nidai_Kitetsu can provide, about how I believed that Blackbeard's Ultimate goal extend beyond just wanting to be the Pirate King, but rather given the similarities between him and Xebec, I believe that Blackbeard's Ultimate Goal is to become King of the World. I think chapter 1080, has even further solidified that notion.

Going back to the fact that everything Blackbeard does is to serve a purpose for a bigger agenda, we have to ask ourselves, what is the one thing that becoming a King recognized by the World Government that would be most beneficial to Blackbeard? The answer is pretty simple. It gains him access to Mariejois. And what happens to be on Mariejois? That would be the "Empty Throne" where the King of the World sits. Now one can argue that it could be their National Treasure, which is heavily implied to be Uranus, that he is after, but if that was there case, there are two other Ancient Weapons in the World that require much less plotting and scheming to acquire, and Blackbeard doesn't seem to be interested in either of them. That leaves the only other option, and the one that makes the most sense, the Empty Throne, as being his true objective. I think even the fact that Oda brought up Blackbeard wanting to be a "King" of his own nation, was a subtle hint to his main objective.

This also ties back into what I said earlier, about how Blackbeard has patiently waited for decades to make his move. If just becoming a King was his ultimate goal, there was a myriad of ways he could have gone about it throughout his life. But before he even tried to make that a reality, the first thing he acquired was power. This is most likely due to the fact, that he knows that once he makes it to Mariejois, he is going to need the strength to overthrow the "Silent King" of the World, Im-Sama.

This makes the most sense to me, as Blackbeard has always felt like he had bigger ambitions than just becoming the Pirate King. Blackbeard is the only other character in the entire series that we have seen rise up in the ranks alongside Luffy, even if Blackbeards journey has been in the background, and not once, have we ever seen Blackbeard express his desire to be Pirate King.

Everything is just a means to an end for Blackbeard. From becoming a Pirate, to becoming a member of a Shichibukai, to becoming a Yonko, to now wanting to become the King of his own Country. He doesn't care about being a Pirate. He doesn't care about being a Yonko. He doesn't really care about being a King of his own Country. No.... He doesn't care about anything of those things. The only thing Blackbeard cares about, is becoming the King of the World.

The problem with this is that next Revery is in 4 years afaik so him being recognized as King and allowed to participate in Revery will never pay off. I am sure that his hunger is bigger than just Pirate King but this goal of becoming a WG-recognized King makes no sense.

 

[Koro]

So it's kinda like:

• Ace -> shichibukai status -> get on nakama at ID -> kill WB -> Take WB territory -> become Emperor
• Coby/Garp -> King of country under WG -> get on Marijeoa without fighting to get 'Something' -> Kill Tenryubitos + Im -> take WG territory (Nation that member of WG) -> become King of the World

But who is gonna become Pirate King???
Buggy next achievement

 

[JoNdule]

Teach has different agenda

But him wanting to be recognised by WG as official King of Beehive is dumb
Just an excuse for Oda to have this coby plot

 

[Monkey D Monkey]

Blackbeard wants to be a King, so he can request an audience with the Gorosei the way that Cobra did.

 

[lee33]

Lmfao one piece fans with mental gymnastics trying to rationalize Oda's absurd writing. Yea, the man who wants to be king of the world is going after Boa Hancock devil fruit lmao. Imagine if Tobi wasn't collecting Tailed beasts but was instead collecting ninjas with water jutsu and then proclaims he wants to rule the world so that is why he is kidnapping ninjas with water jutsu. That is literally the equivalent of what BB is doing now. Yall will be shitting on Kishimoto if he wrote that but since it is Goda then I am going to try and rationalize some complex future plan Oda is cooking.

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

This is why BB has been quiet and content to let Luffy take on the Yonko because defeating Kaido and Big Mom would be dangerous side quests that would detract from his true goal to become the King of the World.

We have seen though BB hasn't just been sitting on his laurels, the man has been collecting devil fruits that will help him achieve his ambitions. Right now, the BB pirates are shaping up to be the most versatile crew in the series, Each Titantic Captain has a devil fruit that benefits Teach's plans. Just the few captains we have seen recently already illustrate this point.

Pizarro who can control any island he is in, which is perfect for controlling the Red Line.
Van Auger who can teleport to any location with quick timing.
Catarina and Shiryu who can infiltrate and manipulate the WG and Marine Command Structures

This is why Moria was captured because his devil fruit is perfect for someone that raise an army of the dead which suits Teach's interests. What happens to Moria and his devil fruit is still up in the air but there's no question that Teach wants it especially if it works in tandem with the Yami Yami no Mi. I suspect Perona will be taken hostage so that BB can force Moria to do his bidding.

All of these devil fruits will be essential in Teach taking over Mary Geoise, overthrow Imu and sit on the Empty Throne. I anticipate that we could see the BB pirates slaughter the Celestial Dragons to mark the moment and set the stage between Luffy and BB over the fate of the World.

I also believe that Oda gave us glimpses of what Teach's past might have looked like in Wano, through Orochi's backstory, someone who did not care about the people of Wano but wanted to stay in charge to rule over the ashes. Teach is going to be Orochi on steroids if he takes over the world.

This makes a lot of sense. Its almost like Oda specifically designed Pizarro's island control, Auger's warp, Devon's impersonation and Shiryu's invisibility abilities to infiltrate Marijoa.

Being an official king gives BB some sort of immunity and he will be untouchable by the marines. That gives him a great advantage over other yonkos. A yonko with immunity like the shichibukais can be very scary.

Coby's name is not big enough to get such a massive privilege from the WG. Garp as a hostage could do that job for BB.

 

[JoNdule]

Lmfao one piece fans with mental gymnastics trying to rationalize Oda's absurd writing. Yea, the man who wants to be king of the world is going after Boa Hancock devil fruit lmao. Imagine if Tobi wasn't collecting Tailed beasts but was instead collecting ninjas with water jutsu and then proclaims he wants to rule the world so that is why he is kidnapping ninjas with water jutsu. That is literally the equivalent of what BB is doing now. Yall will be shitting on Kishimoto if he wrote that but since it is Goda then I am going to try and rationalize some complex future plan Oda is cooking.

"But blackbeard wanna be granted immunity from crimes"
Look how silly they sound like Teach does too

A Yonko wanna have immujity for crimes and rule over an island so that he can continue his goals
Lol

 

[Rob Luffy]

Garp would die as a Martyr before he became a prisoner of Neckbeard.

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

"But blackbeard wanna be granted immunity from crimes"
Look how silly they sound like Teach does too

At least Teach is trying unlike your dear Meme, whose only role in the story was to give the yonkos a badname and humble the yonko fanboys

 

[Gol D. Bullet]

This makes a lot of sense. Its almost like Oda specifically designed Pizarro's island control, Auger's warp, Devon's impersonation and Shiryu's invisibility abilities to infiltrate Marijoa.

Being an official king gives BB some sort of immunity and he will be untouchable by the marines. That gives him a great advantage over other yonkos. A yonko with immunity like the shichibukais can be very scary.

Coby's name is not big enough to get such a massive privilege from the WG. Garp as a hostage could do that job for BB.

I think Teach is trying to pull the same trick he did when he became a warlord to invade Impel Down. He didn't care about the title, he wanted to get the strongest inmates from Level Six to join his crew.
Just like He doesn't care about being a member of the WG, he just wants access to whatever he seeking in Marijoa.

As for Garp, the man would probably kill himself before being taken hostage, he has too much pride and old to put the Marines be in a compromising position. I feel that Garp is going to die in a dramatic fashion. In keeping with the parallels, perhaps Garp will be Teach's Kaido someone who will push him to his limits or near death and awaken his devil fruits.