[FNZ] Super Role Madness Bleach Soul Society Arc

[TheAncientCenturion]

https://bleach.fandom.com/wiki/Kūmon

For what it's worth, there's the potential that both Mr. Ratchet and Mr. Apollo are town. This is a Hollow ability. One Aizen used to escape Soul Society.

 

[Ratchet]

if you specifically noted that you moved you vote from sk cause you wanted a second wagon then I missed that post of yours

Well, it should be in my ISO!

 

[Peroroncino]

Vice captain roles are so weak compared to that

 

[Emil]

1 - Yes, because he received accurate watch results, but inaccurate results for me, and I *should* know when I'm busdriven. I've asked Fuji to make it clear.
2 - Made redundant if they can fake the flip.
3 - It's not my passive, I claimed what my passive did. That was either made up, or it's someone else's.
4 - How can an investigator justify sitting on his results half a day? Dismissed.
5 - It is largely because he seemed to know my kill immunity existed in some form which I assumed meant he had my role. It doesn't make sense to trade 1:1, but if they could fake flips, he wouldn't have to trade. Flavour allows for it too.

1. ok we'll wait about the busdrive, but if u r scum u can easily lie about it. so long as that remain a possibility, we cannot just lock apollo scum
2. we dont have a proof of that, also how wud they flip a kenpachi role scum exactly? changing alignments wont work. the scum characters r flavor-ly defined to be ichigo or aizen's team. i think u r leaning more towards having tmi on that being a possibility here
3. ok noted
4. explain how does flavor allows fake flipping. what is he gna flip u exactly? certainly not a scum kenpachi... are u suggesting he flips u as one of their own roles?

 

[MangoSenpai]

kenpachi is such a good fake to give to scum teams, and ur ability names are all very generic. sword slash and immense spiritual pressure... thats about what everyone worth his salt can do in bleach lol. its not a kenpachi-unique ability

Like ratchet said, the immense spiritual pressure is signature Kenpachi, I find it very very very unlikely to be fake

 

[Emil]

Mango recognised the latter as Kenpachi so I'm inclined to disagree.

Fuji told me busdrives wouldn't count, so yes you're right. Which means I could have been busdriven, and it would have been with scum. In other words, there is only one actual ability that fits in the writeup.

bottom line here is we r not certain if apollo is scum then. now we assess the play itself

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

I am ready to put both Mr. Ratchet and Mr. Apollo in my town core.

 

[Ratchet]

1. ok we'll wait about the busdrive, but if u r scum u can easily lie about it. so long as that remain a possibility, we cannot just lock apollo scum
2. we dont have a proof of that, also how wud they flip a kenpachi role scum exactly? changing alignments wont work. the scum characters r flavor-ly defined to be ichigo or aizen's team. i think u r leaning more towards having tmi on that being a possibility here
3. ok noted
4. explain how does flavor allows fake flipping. what is he gna flip u exactly? certainly not a scum kenpachi... are u suggesting he flips u as one of their own roles?

1 - How can I easily lie about it? I would have had to breadcrumb a town vig claim from day 1.
2&4 - I don't see why they can't do that, no.

 

[Ratchet]

bottom line here is we r not certain if apollo is scum then. now we assess the play itself

I *have* assessed the play, my point was that he hasn't played this like a townie with a guilty - he hasn't been excited to push it at all and after my claim he has *vanished*. You can read it for yourself - his interest was in posturing.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

TOWN:

Mr. Charlie -
Mr. Ratchet - Kenpachi
Mr. Apollo -
Mr. Pero - Renji
Mr. Muugen - ???

LEAN TOWN:

MangoSenpai, Esquire - Good questions
Mr. Usopp - Good Questions

LEAN SCUM:

Miss Flowa - Inconsistent
Senor Adam - Inconsistent, airy

SCUM:

Mr. Dr. Professor - Shenanigans

 

[MangoSenpai]

I am ready to put both Mr. Ratchet and Mr. Apollo in my town core.

With these recent developments, I tend to agree. Which means Psychic is the logical next step

 

[Emil]

1. ok we'll wait about the busdrive, but if u r scum u can easily lie about it. so long as that remain a possibility, we cannot just lock apollo scum
2. we dont have a proof of that, also how wud they flip a kenpachi role scum exactly? changing alignments wont work. the scum characters r flavor-ly defined to be ichigo or aizen's team. i think u r leaning more towards having tmi on that being a possibility here
3. ok noted
4. explain how does flavor allows fake flipping. what is he gna flip u exactly? certainly not a scum kenpachi... are u suggesting he flips u as one of their own roles?

@Ratchet number 4 here is actually number 5

i forgot actual 4 = a scum invest can go inactive all day (pretend to be busy, exams, work etc..) then come later with his first message in the day and claim got guilty on u depending on how wagons are etc. its probbaly the better way to do it

when a player is proactive with info like apollo, it makes me lean more town than scum on him. specially early in the game

 

[Underworld Broker]

Aizen would fit as purple mafia btw, ichigo group prolly red. Maybe red kill will show up during the day or not at all, would be kinda weird tho

 

[Psylocke]

Fuki just confirm with me that the ability "kido net" was used on Ekko. That must be Apollo's ability.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

With these recent developments, I tend to agree. Which means Psychic is the logical next step

What's the logic, Mangosenpai, Esquire? Not doubting you but I don't think I read deeply into your interaction.

 

[Ratchet]

A townie with kill immune scum caught comes out and says

"Ratchet is scum, he has this so don't kill him, rolecrush him asap and stop him from using actions, then kill. Otherwise we lynch"

And then pushes for it. Apollo was more interested in roleplaying with TAC.

 

[Emil]

^There are the only actions that could be busdrives BTW.

definitely kumon

 

[Ratchet]

Aizen would fit as purple mafia btw, ichigo group prolly red. Maybe red kill will show up during the day or not at all, would be kinda weird tho

Actually, this might be the red kill Broki:

Getsuga Tenshou was used to superkill ??? but it failed

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Is there anything to be said about Mr. Kobe?

 

[MangoSenpai]

What's the logic, Mangosenpai, Esquire? Not doubting you but I don't think I read deeply into your interaction.

Well, he claims that ratchet was busdriven with Gin, but excluding Tosen, and this coming from a perspective that he didn't read our interactions.

I.e she has TMI