Future Events Can Luffy become pirate king without being Top 1 in the verse?

This is a dumb question. Of course he has to be the strongest to be the Pirate King. If he’s not the strongest, then he isn’t the freest, because at any given time the person who is stronger than him could confront him and stop him from doing the things he wants to do. This is why Luffy has envisioned himself beating all the Yonko and Admirals, because he recognizes that he has to be stronger than everyone so that he can do whatever the hell he wants. It is ridiculous to say otherwise.

he does not have to be stronger than Mihawk, Zoro, or Dragon as they do not oppose his reign as the pirate king so no he doesn't have to be stronger than every person lol
 
Saying Zoro, Lolhawk stronger than Luffy is just a wet dream of many Zoro fans and wishful thinking.
This is like Zoro fans going against their arguments in sucking the swords. Zoro fans most of them known for their dumb takes and hypocrites.


Roger got acknowledged not just for finding raftel he did something no one did and conquered the whole seas. He is that powerful that every significant character acknowledged him.
 
Didn t beat big mom
Didn t beat kaido
Didn t beat shiki
Didn t beat wb
Simple roger wasn t the strongest
Pk title is for the one who reaches laugh tale
Begging like a bitxh for oden
Saved by a storm against shiki
Ran from big mom
Roger the fraud
Wb>>Loger
 
well Luffy is not the strongest. Never was. And never will be. Because he doesn't need that. Remember what Mihawk said in MF? Luffy most dangerous abillity is how he could bring people together. to be one. one piece
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And one more thing. just remember that this is Shounen manga we're talkin here. remember Naruto, Ichigo. it's all about friendship triumph over anythin and all that holding hands while singing kumbaya EoS.
 
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Cyrus the Cactus

Mihawk Reigns Supreme
More him carrying them to their dreams.
They all have been dead without him.
Zoro killed by Morgan
Nami by Arlong
Ussop by Kuro
Sanji by Zeff and his crew
Robin by crocodile
Chopper by Wapol
And so on

Morrover each Arc they have been killed by the boss
Lucci, Crocodile, Arlong
Luffy would’ve been killed by Buggy if not for Zoro...it goes both ways.
 
well Luffy is not the strongest. Never was. And never will be. Because he doesn't need that. Remember what Mihawk said in MF? Luffy most dangerous abillity is how he could bring people together. to be one. one piece
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And one more thing. just remember that this is Shounen manga we're talkin here. remember Naruto, Ichigo. it's all about friendship triumph over anythin and all that holding hands while singing kumbaya EoS.
Naming the two literally shittiest Shounen besides Fairy tail does not help your point.
In addition, Ichigo, time and time again, was the literal strongest...
And Naruto was Jesus and had Jesus 2 by his side.

Anyway, yes he can be, see no reason why he has to be though.
 
@Celestial D. Dragon Man.. Didn't you read the interview where Oda said that he at first wasn't sure if he should make Luffy the PK or pre timeskip Helmeppo?
After all it's just a scavenger hunt and you only need to collect bits of information here and there in order to find that treasure. Everyone can do that. Eaaaaaasy game.

People, just because you theoretically can think of scenarios where one finds the treasure independent of a certain power level, it does not mean that you are realistically able to do it that way and that solely finding the treasure makes people acknowledge you as the Pirate King.

The Pirate King is not an officially granted title by some sort of committee after finding the treasure. It's a title that represents the obstacles that you overcame in order to find that treasure.
On your journey you had to surpass the strongest people in the world, cause in practice people do not get to laugh tale just by sheer luck alone.
That's why Roger ended up as the strongest fucker around, only rivaled by Primebeard.
It was the product of his journey of becoming the PK, a journey where he actually overcame such obstacles.
And just because you know of 2 scenarios where Roger might have had luck, it doesn't change the fact that Roger factually ended up as the strongest man, who was acknowledged and mostly even respected by his enemies. Probably had to fight one time or the other, don't you think?

In theory you could possibly find laugh tale w/o all those struggles (close to impossible btw), but it's simply not what the title Pirate King stands for.
You even have Kaido and Big Mom telling us that they would be able to find the treasure if they combine their resources, but that they still would have to duke it out afterwards, in order to rightfully become the Pirate King.

Note: Normally Luffy would be the No1 in the verse as the PK. But I dunno what's up with Imu and if it's even legit to include him into all that. I mean I certainly wouldn't do it, if he's some kind of "special" god like being.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
@Celestial D. Dragon Man.. Didn't you read the interview where Oda said that he at first wasn't sure if he should make Luffy the PK or pre timeskip Helmeppo?
After all it's just a scavenger hunt and you only need to collect bits of information here and there in order to find that treasure. Everyone can do that. Eaaaaaasy game.

People, just because you theoretically can think of scenarios where one finds the treasure independent of a certain power level, it does not mean that you are realistically able to do it that way and that solely finding the treasure makes people acknowledge you as the Pirate King.

The Pirate King is not an officially granted title by some sort of committee after finding the treasure. It's a title that represents the obstacles that you overcame in order to find that treasure.
On your journey you had to surpass the strongest people in the world, cause in practice people do not get to laugh tale just by sheer luck alone.
That's why Roger ended up as the strongest fucker around, only rivaled by Primebeard.
It was the product of his journey of becoming the PK, a journey where he actually overcame such obstacles.
And just because you know of 2 scenarios where Roger might have had luck, it doesn't change the fact that Roger factually ended up as the strongest man, who was acknowledged and mostly even respected by his enemies. Probably had to fight one time or the other, don't you think?

In theory you could possibly find laugh tale w/o all those struggles (close to impossible btw), but it's simply not what the title Pirate King stands for.
You even have Kaido and Big Mom telling us that they would be able to find the treasure if they combine their resources, but that they still would have to duke it out afterwards, in order to rightfully become the Pirate King.

Note: Normally Luffy would be the No1 in the verse as the PK. But I dunno what's up with Imu and if it's even legit to include him into all that. I mean I certainly wouldn't do it, if he's some kind of "special" god like being.
This is literally not true.
Roger stole a copy from meme begged his rival for his crew member and everything else fell in his lap beating no one on the way
He didnt beat meme
He didnt beat wb
He didnt beat shikki
He didnt beat garp
He didnt beat sengoku

He got the pk title just because he went to raftel.
 
begged his rival for his crew member
He doesn't have choice. If he would have kidnapp Oden,
Oden could have done the same thing Robin did to crocodile.
He could have lie and Roger hadn't enough time for that.
Beg was his only choice.

beating no one on the way
Who beated him ?


He didnt beat meme
He didnt beat wb
He didnt beat shikki


All where In God Valley in the losing team. None of them was see beating Roger.
Sure they grew stronger like Roger who was a rookie like them.
He didnt beat garp
He didnt beat sengoku
Irrelevant they are Marines

He got the pk title just because he went to raftel
And he's the only one who did it in 800years Old.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
He doesn't have choice. If he would have kidnapp Oden,
Oden could have done the same thing Robin did to crocodile.
He could have lie and Roger hadn't enough time for that.
Beg was his only choice.



Who beated him ?






All where In God Valley in the losing team. None of them was see beating Roger.
Sure they grew stronger like Roger who was a rookie like them.

Irrelevant they are Marines



And he's the only one who did it in 800years Old.
Lmfao what a waste of a post.

Hes the only one in 800 years because he got lucky wb crashed on wano and met oden. Or else hed have achieved nothing.
Its not irrelevant. Roger was at a dead end pre his final voyage and was dying.
 
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