One should go check the original source rather than official translation. Because their job is not translate everything as it is in original text but to localise it to their audience and make is readable in their language. For audio(anime or dramas) I am fine as I can understand japanese. But for LNs/Manga I prefer a good fan translation who gives proper details and notes based on the things/themes used. Even anime like say Gintama... imagine using official(CR or whatever) subs. Thats just stupid to do.
Speculations Can Sanji eos stop the hakai for one second?
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Yeah no.
This is when King threw Sanji on the surface of the building, but the panel that is shown Sanji, he is already on the floor on the side of the building. Everything that happened off the panel may just have Sanji coming out of the rubble and walking towards the battlefield again.
All of these events are happening WHILE brachio tank is falling with the number from Franky's attack
You can see that Sanji is there while the tank is falling
This whole chapter is just multiple events happening at once
For example, character A is going to buy a coffee and then we switched to character B who is riding a bicycle and then we switched back to character A who just purchased the coffee cup. Simple math really
These panels above are a example of multi-events as you can see:cheers:
This is an example of KOd
And this is not an example of KOd
Sanji bend King's beak in the meanwhile as well.
This is when King threw Sanji on the surface of the building, but the panel that is shown Sanji, he is already on the floor on the side of the building. Everything that happened off the panel may just have Sanji coming out of the rubble and walking towards the battlefield again.
All of these events are happening WHILE brachio tank is falling with the number from Franky's attack
You can see that Sanji is there while the tank is falling
This whole chapter is just multiple events happening at once
For example, character A is going to buy a coffee and then we switched to character B who is riding a bicycle and then we switched back to character A who just purchased the coffee cup. Simple math really
These panels above are a example of multi-events as you can see:cheers:
This is an example of KOd
And this is not an example of KOd
Sanji bend King's beak in the meanwhile as well.
a lot of things happened since king dropped sanji.
-big mom came along and did ikoku sovereignty
-big mom retreived zeus from nami
-franky and broke came to the rescue
-franky charging his lazer to attack big mom
-numbers came in
-franky notices one of them holding his brachio like a toy
-he shouts him with the lazer instead of big mom
-jenbie and robin throw big mom out.
-luffy and zoro got stopped by queen.
-sanji wakes up and the first thing he talks about is momo.
things are definitely not happening at the same time.
also:
the platform that sanji dropped on is not the same one he woke up behind.
Yeah no.
This is when King threw Sanji on the surface of the building, but the panel that is shown Sanji, he is already on the floor on the side of the building. Everything that happened off the panel may just have Sanji coming out of the rubble and walking towards the battlefield again.
All of these events are happening WHILE brachio tank is falling with the number from Franky's attack
You can see that Sanji is there while the tank is falling
This whole chapter is just multiple events happening at once
For example, character A is going to buy a coffee and then we switched to character B who is riding a bicycle and then we switched back to character A who just purchased the coffee cup. Simple math really
These panels above are a example of multi-events as you can see:cheers:
This is an example of KOd
And this is not an example of KOd
Sanji bend King's beak in the meanwhile as well.
This is when King threw Sanji on the surface of the building, but the panel that is shown Sanji, he is already on the floor on the side of the building. Everything that happened off the panel may just have Sanji coming out of the rubble and walking towards the battlefield again.
All of these events are happening WHILE brachio tank is falling with the number from Franky's attack
You can see that Sanji is there while the tank is falling
This whole chapter is just multiple events happening at once
For example, character A is going to buy a coffee and then we switched to character B who is riding a bicycle and then we switched back to character A who just purchased the coffee cup. Simple math really
These panels above are a example of multi-events as you can see:cheers:
This is an example of KOd
And this is not an example of KOd
Sanji bend King's beak in the meanwhile as well.
what?
a lot of things happened since king dropped sanji.
-big mom came along and did ikoku sovereignty
-big mom retreived zeus from nami
-franky and broke came to the rescue
-franky charging his lazer to attack big mom
-numbers came in
-franky notices one of them holding his brachio like a toy
-he shouts him with the lazer instead of big mom
-jenbie and robin throw big mom out.
-luffy and zoro got stopped by queen.
-sanji wakes up and the first thing he talks about is momo.
things are definitely not happening at the same time.
also:
the platform that sanji dropped on is not the same one he woke up behind.
a lot of things happened since king dropped sanji.
-big mom came along and did ikoku sovereignty
-big mom retreived zeus from nami
-franky and broke came to the rescue
-franky charging his lazer to attack big mom
-numbers came in
-franky notices one of them holding his brachio like a toy
-he shouts him with the lazer instead of big mom
-jenbie and robin throw big mom out.
-luffy and zoro got stopped by queen.
-sanji wakes up and the first thing he talks about is momo.
things are definitely not happening at the same time.
also:
the platform that sanji dropped on is not the same one he woke up behind.
At the beginning of the chapter where Franky shot a beam at one of the numbers who's holding Ussop and Chopper.
Ever heard of multi-events? Yeah, this is it. Everything is happening in different frames but the timeline is still the same.
In literature, events are showed differently but the time are still the same.
This is the middle of the chapter.
The Number that got shot by the radical beam is still falling down. Now the Shogun that Chopper and Usopp are in barely came off the hands of the Number. Usopp and Chopper say it's docking time as they are falling out of the air.
Here is the end of the chapter where the Number who was shot still did not touch the ground but is still falling. Which means this whole chapter is literally happening in seconds and each event minutes are not passing by but actually just Oda telling the story from different peoples perspective in a single time frame.
This is another proof of that it got shifted to Luffy and Zoro and the Number is still falling down from Franky's radical beam at the beginning of the chapter and the smoke cloud didn't even fade yet from the attack. So the argument that the scene shifting between everyone is "minutes or hours" passing by just doesn't make any sense. In manga and comics, only seconds have passed by of all these events that is currently occurring. King left to Luffy and Zoro before the Number even fell down. And that was at the beginning of the chapter where he was shot at.
So now here is the end where Ussop and Chopper are still in the Shogun were in is still floating in the air from the time the Number let go of them. Now the Shogun is transforming and Ussop and Chopper got out and they were still floating in the air. Then the Number finally goes down. This is happening in matter of seconds.
Usopp and Chopper were talking about docking time in a few panels before. And then they were still falling from the air. It's not like they were falling from skyscraper or anything.
And then the Numbers were hitting the floor and Sanji was standing up the whole time. ^^
Sanji was like:
So in the end this whole event this chapter is happening in seconds within each other and Oda just changes to different characters but the time frames are all in the same timeline.
Sanji was never knocked out in the first place. If he was indeed knocked out then there would be panel of this.
By your guys logic, you guys said that Sanji didn't beat Page One because he was not defeated on panel but apparently Sanji got knocked out by King even though Sanji didn't even got knocked out?
Sanji was standing up here just fine.
Let's say if you get hit by a baseball bat to the face, what would happen to your body? Exactly, you would get knocked out.
But Sanji wasn't.
Another examples would be Luffy knocking Doffy down through multiple buildings in Dressrosa.
And then we switched to Cavendish and Law.
And then we saw Viola climbing down the spider net.
And then Leo's group.
And then bunch of panels later, Doffy was still in the castle.
And then we switched to Doffy after getting sent flying and he's still conscious.
Want more examples?
This is Luffy on Page 2, before all of the Big Mom/Numbers stuff
There's a hole in the wall. That hole caused by Yamato's handcuffs exploding.
This explosion happened right below the execution platform. (You can see the same trees on the stone just like the Luffy's panel).
So Luffy on Page 2 is seconds away from the Luffy we see on Page 12.
The Usopp and Chopper's scene was happening simultaneously and the same goes for every scenes. You can't see everything happening at the same time so you have the sectional panels parts.
Even more examples?
You guys were saying Zoro blocked Kaido's and Big Mom's attack for more than a second. But according to Viz, it was just 1 second.
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You guys been reading too much Head Piece for sure.
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So Zoro is fodder then. Well he was going to die so you got thank Law saving the fodder.
Btw we talking about EOS Sanji, not current one. EOS is another tier of power for him.
i see him fighting Queen this arc, so post wano i see him being somewhere between YC2 and YC1 level. Given his feats, i dont see him beating an Admiral even at eos. However, if Yamato joins SH, then i see eos Sanji being a top tier, because i think eos yamato will be a top tier as well and sanji will be stronger than her if that happens
If he beats King or Queen, that actually push him on YC+ given their feats prior facing Big Mom and Macro. He will be above Admiral given there be a war with Marines and he will face Admiral of World Government and possibilities of BB Pirates being above them individually too who Strawhats will face later.
True on Yamato stuff given Sanji always be one stronger than female allies, so he be above Yamato too.
True on Yamato stuff given Sanji always be one stronger than female allies, so he be above Yamato too.
I'm curious to see what people think of Jozu vs. Hakai. If Mihawk has the strongest slash, then his slash against Jozu should be 60% as strong as Hakai, if BM supplied half of Hakai's power.
Can Jozu handle a move that's ~66% stronger than Mihawk's slash? I think he could but he would be bruised up.
Can Jozu handle a move that's ~66% stronger than Mihawk's slash? I think he could but he would be bruised up.
I'm curious to see what people think of Jozu vs. Hakai. If Mihawk has the strongest slash, then his slash against Jozu should be 60% as strong as Hakai, if BM supplied half of Hakai's power.
Can Jozu handle a move that's ~66% stronger than Mihawk's slash? I think he could but he would be bruised up.
Can Jozu handle a move that's ~66% stronger than Mihawk's slash? I think he could but he would be bruised up.