HMMMM... man the amount of disingenuousness shown in
some of the posts is pretty insane and really showcasing an insane case of what would be called selective reading.
Lol?????? My dude that's literally the No.1 reason Luffy vs Akainu has been pushed. You're applying the biggest Luffy vs Akainu reason that people wanted to see Luffy come and whoop Akainu's ass to now Sabo fans. No supporter of this fight wants it to happen for revenge reason, it's literally the dumbest reason to waste Akainu on. So you're wrong there.
You're completely wrong. I don't like telling folks they're wrong when it comes to preference of their predicted fight. However, in this reasoning of yours, you're completely wrong.
1st. Not a narrative/ thematic reason for the fight to happen.
2nd. Yup, that's not really a narrative/thematic reason.
3rd. Yes, possible motivation for Luffy, but not exactly a narrative/thematic conflict.
4th. Yup, possible possible motivation for Luffy, but not exactly a narrative/thematic conflict.
5th. Nope, but again not a thematic/narrative conflict.
Thank you for proving my point off the very bat. Even though you called it a narrative/thematic conflict... you literally for your 1st reason used the very same reason you complained the Sabo vs Akainu is based on... REVENGE. That is not a narrative/thematic conflict between two characters. That's simply a possible motivation for 1 character, while the other could give a dog's ass.
When it comes to actual narrative/thematic conflict, aka where the storylines and the themes of two characters collide... Dragon, Fujitora, and Sabo are all above Luffy by a good margin. Fujitora in particular is the direct thematic conflict if anything, bigger than the other thematic conflict Kuzan before him.
"Freest man" is not the thematic conflict to "Thorough Justice" or "Absolute Justice".
Here we go again, we're back to the CP0 non-sense. First it was RA & Sabo's main opponent being the CP0 when Dragon told em to be cautious about them. And now it's the Holy Knights, when Dragon mentions them. I have 0 idea on what the fandom's obsessions is with trying to make the Marines be pirate exclusive opponents...but you're factually wrong.
- Factually, taking on the Celestial Dragons is not just taking on the Holy Knights, but the CP0 +.... who? Marine HQ. Because why? It's literally the CD's ARMY.
- So we had Sabo vs Marines, RA commanders vs two admirals.. Yup doesn't seem like any marine conflict with the RA.
- At the sametime as Luffy is announced as an Emperor of the sea. We get a conversation between 3 marine top tiers, Akainu/Kizaru/Tensei... and who's the primary focus? Sabo. With Tensei literally telling Akainu yo we can't let them keep running unchecked.
- In the very chapter Oda spends pages on pages with 3 marine top dogs discussing the Revolutionary Army... this is the single panel dedicated to the man who you're talking about.
- Akainu here isn't referring to just pirates, lol. He's referring to the RA + pirates.
- Holy Knights is a specialized group, with 9 people. That's not the Revolutionary ARMY's opponent.
- The Revolutionary ARMY has the same position at the top of their army as the World Government does at the top of their military.
And who're the top dogs under Kong & Dragon? Akainu & Sabo...
Notice how the Holy Knights vs Sabo conflict is being brought up WAY BEFORE the Final War, with 9 individuals who's highest priority will be Sabo... so Dragon wants Sabo to be careful about that when doing the missions he'll be assigned to until they do a proper launch.
So yea.... Marine HQ is a BIG ENEMY of the Revolutionaries... why? Cause they're owned by the Celestial Dragons just like the Holy Knights are.
Echiiro Oda after stating Magu Magu > Mera Mera, goes out of his way to point out no ability alone guarantees a victory in combat. In particularly when
Sabo's main focus of style is not the mera mera, but
haki. You think Oda just coincidently bothered introduced Sabo with a Haki/Rokushiki-esque based combat style before giving him the mera mera? Nope. Ace on the other hand was a full on mera mera based fighter.
Marines are too big for 1 singular group to defeat on their own, it will be a collective effort.
- Specific characters in the Marines are a major antagonistic force since the beginning. And do you know who saved Luffy's ass from going to Impel Down by hands of the Marines? A revolutionary.. Dragon's first character interaction was with who? A Marine. HMMMMMMMM coooooking.
- They are a major, but not THE major. They are a pawn to a bigger antagonist... you know the mfs that Nika & Joyboy would be going against.
- Sakazuki isn't the major antagonist for that faction
- Sabo right now is a bigger entity than Luffy, i'm not exactly sure why you're acting as if Sabo isn't a major protagonistic force in the manga.
- I mean bro that's cool if that's what you want
But see this isn't a concrete reason, it's just the typical fanbase theory of SHPs vs Marine HQ. Just as the whole SHPs vs Zodiac etc etc.
Reality is, Luffy is joyboy and Nika. Nika's enemies were the ones who enslaved people. Joyboy's enemies were the 20 Kingdoms... aka it ain't the Marines. So idk why you'd even bring up the CD being main enemies for the RA, but then ignore them for Luffy, when his entire character's end goal is gonna focused on overthrowing the CD.
Bro just say you don't want it to happen. Saying the argument for Sabo is ridiculous is just being ridiculous yourself.
You again just listed the main motivation behind why people get so insecure about anything but Luffy vs Akainu happening.
Because y'all would literally bash Akainu if he fought somebody else other than Luffy, saying he's not Yonko built like that inferior to Kaido... so the mfs who support Akainu in powerscaling run this narrative of Luffy vs Akainu to prove Akainu is the top dog.
