General & Others Can We Wait A Few Chapters Before Seriously Comparing Kaido And Kizaru

[Indigo]

True but its also his fastest form by far, hes going G5 to deal with Kizarus speed.

A part of it is also gonna be dealing with his light

In G5 Luffy can touch / hold Kizaru's light

and he can also summon a sunglass to not get blinded like before

 

[SmokedOut]

You're right...must...control...hype

 

[Fujishiro]

A part of it is also gonna be dealing with his light

In G5 Luffy can touch / hold Kizaru's light

and he can also summon a sunglass to not get blinded like before

Well he can yes but the main issue is dealing with his speed, he cant just brute force his way and slug it out like he did with Kaido.

 

[Indigo]

Obviously, base Luffy can touch and hit Kizaru with Haki

but Gear 5th Luffy can even hold and send back projectiles made of light by Kizaru

at least, it should be possible in theory

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Well he can yes but the main issue is dealing with his speed, he cant just brute force his way and slug it out like he did with Kaido.

I feel like Kizaru's DF is gonna have some kind of weakness

kinda like Crocodile and water

I don't know, without something like that, Luffy will have a hard time hitting Kizaru with his biggest / slower moves

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Obviously, base Luffy can touch and hit Kizaru with Haki

but Gear 5th Luffy can even hold and send back projectiles made of light by Kizaru

at least, it should be possible in theory

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I feel like Kizaru's DF is gonna have some kind of weakness

kinda like Crocodile and water

I don't know, without something like that, Luffy will have a hard time hitting Kizaru with his biggest / slower moves

? Because he grabbed lightning ?

You do realize lightning is completely different from light?

 

[Fujishiro]

Obviously, base Luffy can touch and hit Kizaru with Haki

but Gear 5th Luffy can even hold and send back projectiles made of light by Kizaru

at least, it should be possible in theory

Post automatically merged: Sep 13, 2023

I feel like Kizaru's DF is gonna have some kind of weakness

kinda like Crocodile and water

I don't know, without something like that, Luffy will have a hard time hitting Kizaru with his biggest / slower moves

His biggest/slowest moves will never hit Kizaru imo thats why hes going to go for faster moves just like Snakeman/Boundman do different things.

? Because he grabbed lightning ?

You do realize lightning is completely different from light?

If you think he wont grab those lasers or do retarded shit with them you're in for a surprise bro.

 

[Desolate Smaug]

So Kaido needs Future Sight to match a base Kizaru feat?

That’s a terrible look lmao

It's not when Kizaru whole idea of his fruit is speed. It's like trying to compare Kizaru natural durability with Kaido's Zoan enhanced durability.

Kizaru is going to be the fastest character in the series and it's not even close.

 

[Indigo]

? Because he grabbed lightning ?

You do realize lightning is completely different from light?

Not just that

but the ground

and running on air

and summoning glasses

i feel like touching / interacting with light seems right up in his wheelhouse

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Can Luffy make a mirror? like he did with his glasses?

It feels like Oda wants Luffy have kinda like "Hammerspace" from comics

Something that reflect light attacks or something like that

 

[Goodman Grey]

Can I use every Kizaru feat as an Aramaki feat though?

 

[Sentinel]

Perhaps his top speed is true light speed. Either way it can just be a mistranslation.

I do think it's mistranslation because it can also just mean 'speed is power' which would be more accurate given Kizaru's speed.

 

[BlackLegFring]

Gear 5th is also gonna create massive headache for powerscalers

because fights now follow the rule of cool / fun, Oda cares even less about power levels and consistency now

if we're all being honest here

Powerscaling isn’t the only victim of Oda’s gear 5th decision either. Tension, choreography, etc also took a hit

 

[BOCCHI]

Literally saying this as an admiral fan.

Based on the last chapter Kizaru is probably faster and handling Snake Man the way he did was expected.

But Kizaru and Luffy haven’t even fought for 2 chapters lol.

Can we chill a little bit

True, it’s still too early to compare while my stance on it would probably be the same Kizaru is on Kaido’s level not being as strong or stronger isn’t a bad look for him.

 

[Herrera95]

Short answer is no

Long answer is hell no

 

[BOCCHI]

Short answer is no

Long answer is hell no

Lol I like the lack of patience in you

 

[Ryuarashi]

That's good, lesson learned from "Greenbulll will solo the alliance"

 

[Hanzo hattori]

You and a few wankers here did that when the first leaks droped now you want to wait after knowing that Luffy didn't use adv COC and Kizaru's charged attack didn't do shit

 

[JoNdule]

"Acceleration" part can be a mistranslation.

It's still the same thing

Kizaru needed to boost his speed to blitz luffy
Something kaido and katakuri do easily

Even a light man needs more speed to dodge and blitz snakeman

 

[L57]

You cannot compare kaido with kizaru until kizaru takes on 20+ yc level characters + a yonko level fighter and luffy uses acoc and acoa + bajarang gun
Kaido is on another level

 

[Djordje]

No need to wait even now its clear they are on same level and victory between them will be no lower than high diff.

Only certain thing now is that Kizaru speed >> Kaido speed.

 

[Cadis Etrama Di Urek]

You cannot compare kaido with kizaru until kizaru takes on 20+ yc level characters + a yonko level fighter and luffy uses acoc and acoa + bajarang gun
Kaido is on another level

This guy.



I'm sure in your mind then Kaido is the strongest in the verse and surpasses both Imu and Joyboy combined since neither of them will take such a useless gauntlet isn't that right?
:cheers:


Luffy dying and reaching absolute point zero is also not relevant, especially not after Yamato and Kaido stated he was killing himself.