Speculations Can Zoro become WSC/WSM by beating Mihawk?

[Albino 👑]

Bro had these panels ready to go...
However, we cannot take Albino's reading comprehension and bias as a valid source.


Why not exactly?


To prevent flip-flopping later on.



We need to make something clear guys... The Zoro who beats Mihawk doesn't become another Mihawk.
He becomes someone stronger than Mihawk, way stronger.
Remember that he is the guy who channels his full power through 9 Supreme Grade weapons, weapons that are the strongest in the world with haki second to none and the best combat style in the world.
A different question - can Kaido become WSC by beating Mihawk? You would say yes. The same applies to Zoro as well...

It’s one of the first things to pop up when looking up mihawks portrayal
There’s this too

 

[nik87]

It’s one of the first things to pop up when looking up mihawks portrayal
There’s this too

Quite a collection of Mihawk panels you got there. Not even mad, it is amazing.
The problem is, Mihawk is introduced as the strongest.
Normally, Zoro would take over when he beats him and becomes even stronger.
Or as Oda would say - the very, very, very strongest.

 

[Gyro]

Dreams are for free zoro fanboys lol.

 

[kyejames316]

Eventually we will be dividing these up into categories of human or non-human. Nika, Imu, Gorosei, etc not in the same category as strong human beings

 

[Excessum]

To prevent flip-flopping later on.

Well, I voted wrong. Why are you so concerned about people changing their decisions? This shows that he opened the issue in a biased manner.

 

[nik87]

Eventually we will be dividing these up into categories of human or non-human. Nika, Imu, Gorosei, etc not in the same category as strong human beings

I think Zoro will take all the possible individual titles that exist so nothing for Nika, Imu and Gorosei.

Well, I voted wrong. Why are you so concerned about people changing their decisions? This shows that he opened the issue in a biased manner.

Dont sweat it.
I want a permanent reminder of how many people bet against Zoro.
It is a common poll setting in my threads.

 

[Rej]

The reason Zoro wasn't on WCI was because he would have neg diffed big mom.

 

[park_min young]

These titles can’t be passed like “WSS”, WB and Kaidou just happen to be labeled as such because of their reputation (WB‘s df is partly a reason for his title; for Kaidou, it’s his toughness and df/race). Even if someone came along and neg-diffed WB and Kaidou combined, he won’t inherit those titles. People will probably call him something else.

 

[Blazing Lion]

Yes and no. In terms of reality, he can be the WSC, WSS, WSM but he won't get all the titles. The titles are there for portrayal and hype for those characters. WBs did not bestow WSM on anyone, neither did Kaidos defeat. Those titles lived and died with them.

 

[nik87]

Let's shake it up a bit and ask - Who does Zoro need to beat to become WSC/WSM?

In terms of reality, he can be the WSC, WSS, WSM but he won't get all the titles.

3 WS titles are too much of a coincidence for me, considering Zoro's theme of 3...

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Let's shake it up a bit and ask - Who does Zoro need to beat to become WSC/WSM?


3 WS titles are too much of a coincidence for me, considering Zoro's theme of 3...

He can start with not jobbing with top tiers, then at least Luffy d goat

 

[JoNdule]

When has the world viewed Mihawk as the strongest guy?

He's currently seen as someone weaker than Buggy

 

[Blax Blah]

Let's shake it up a bit and ask - Who does Zoro need to beat to become WSC/WSM?


3 WS titles are too much of a coincidence for me, considering Zoro's theme of 3...

If Nika exists and Imu is a spirit then I think there isn't a clearly strongest person, but it's probably Mihawk

 

[Blazing Lion]

Let's shake it up a bit and ask - Who does Zoro need to beat to become WSC/WSM?


3 WS titles are too much of a coincidence for me, considering Zoro's theme of 3...

Hahahahaha
I never believed those two specific titles to be as absolute as Mihawks, they were attributed to their DFs and overall power and not individual combat power level. WB because he could destroy the world and Kaido because of the invincibility and being an eastern dragon which is godlike in their mythology.

 

[trav]

Depends on whether or not Mihawk is WSM and WSC.
Since there is a non-zero chance for this the answer to the question is yes.

For anyone who is not very good at logic. A question like this can and should be answered with yes regardless of the characters in question.
Change the question to "Can Coby become WSM/WSC by defeating Spandam" and it would still be yes.
Because it is theoretically possible for Spandam to be the defacto WSM and WSC. Unlikely, but possible.

 

[nik87]

He can start with not jobbing with top tiers, then at least Luffy d goat

When has Zoro ever jobbed to a top tier in 1vs1... They have to combine their power to take Zori down.

When has the world viewed Mihawk as the strongest guy?

He's currently seen as someone weaker than Buggy

When has the world viewed Kaguya as the strongest until she revealed herself and her power?

Hahahahaha
I never believed those two specific titles to be as absolute as Mihawks, they were attributed to their DFs and overall power and not individual combat power level. WB because he could destroy the world and Kaido because of the invincibility and being an eastern dragon which is godlike in their mythology.

Hm a fair take but I do believe in those titles, at least at the moment when they were obtained.
Considering that we spent 26 years, split in 2 halves and each half building up towards one of those title holders...
And all we have left is the final saga, the part which is building up towards the last remaining WS title holder.

Depends on whether or not Mihawk is WSM and WSC.
Since there is a non-zero chance for this the answer to the question is yes.

 

[Blazing Lion]

Hm a fair take but I do believe in those titles, at least at the moment when they were obtained.
Considering that we spent 26 years, split in 2 halves and each half building up towards one of those title holders...
And all we have left is the final saga, the part which is building up towards the last remaining WS title holder.

Agree with the obtaining part, all three hit their primes at different times but the absoluteness of the other two is in question since Mihawk is alive. WB was not the WSM when he died, his title was earned earlier but he was not worthy of it at time of his death.

Kaidos title would be absolute if Mihawk did not have BB.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

When has Zoro ever jobbed to a top tier in 1vs1... They have to combine their power to take Zori down.


When has the world viewed Kaguya as the strongest until she revealed herself and her power?


Hm a fair take but I do believe in those titles, at least at the moment when they were obtained.
Considering that we spent 26 years, split in 2 halves and each half building up towards one of those title holders...
And all we have left is the final saga, the part which is building up towards the last remaining WS title holder.

Ener, Lucci, Arlong and Mihawk to say a few :)
Completely jobbed.

 

[nik87]

Ener, Lucci, Arlong and Mihawk to say a few :)
Completely jobbed.

You only got one right, Mihawk, because he is the only top tier Zoro jobbed to in 1vs1. Ganbare, Gai-chin!

Agree with the obtaining part, all three hit their primes at different times but the absoluteness of the other two is in question since Mihawk is alive. WB was not the WSM when he died, his title was earned earlier but he was not worthy of it at time of his death.

Kaidos title would be absolute if Mihawk did not have BB.

We are basically in agreement.
We both believe in titles being absolute when they were obtained.
And we both believe that WSC and WSM weren't absolute at some point in recent history.
Aka whenever Mihawk reached his prime.

 

[Rivaille]

It depends on Oda’s whim.
And what he do with Luffy. If there is a title above WSM/WSC, nothing stop Zoro to have those I guess.