General & Others Characters that are supposed to be sympathetic or admirable, but you have no sympathy or respect for

[Monkey D Theories]

I fucking hate Oden

that bum was so damn incompetent

Toki should have married Whitebeard instead

 

[Buusatan94]

Shirahoshi. She caused most of Fishman islands problems by letting the people of Fishman Island believe humans killed Otohime and allowing Hody to gain sympathy and power using anti human rhetoric.

I think that’s the only character Oda wanted us to feel sympathy for and I just couldn’t.

And I felt bad for Moriah.

Oda went too far with the all-loving and forgiving heroine trope taken to a ridiculous degree with Otohime and Shirahoshi.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Shirahoshi. She caused most of Fishman islands problems by letting the people of Fishman Island believe humans killed Otohime and allowing Hody to gain sympathy and power using anti human rhetoric.

I think that’s the only character Oda wanted us to feel sympathy for and I just couldn’t.

And I felt bad for Moriah.

I don’t believe she knew that Hody killed her. Wasn’t that a plot twist?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I don’t believe she knew that Hody killed her. Wasn’t that a plot twist?

No she knew the whole time cause her fucking shark told her.

 

[Buusatan94]

I don’t believe she knew that Hody killed her. Wasn’t that a plot twist?

She knew, her shark pet saw Hody shoot her mother and told her about it.

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

What are some characters that the story tries to paint as sympathetic, nice, respectful or even worthy of admiration but that you don't feel any, or little at best, for them due to how hypocritical, unlikeable and/or overhyped these characters are ?

I don't have any sympathy or respect for Yasopp for having abandonned his wife and his son, yet the story tries to paint him as admirable for having chosen to become a pirate and Usopp idolizes him.

I also find Hancock to be quite hypocritical and unsympathetic, with her backstory failing to be an excuse for her misandry and behavior to my taste, given how many Celestial Dragons are female and how many slaves are male with her savior being a man and a fishman who has every reason to hate humans and yet freed her and her sisters.

Nah for Hancock it's justified
She was enslaved and used as a sex slave by Celestial Dragons as a child. Them being male obviously.

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i have zero respect for: snitch, garp, sengoku, aokiji, rayleigh, vegapunk, hiluluk

don't care for zoro, franky, robin, sabo, momonosuke, oden, hiyori, all the scabbards (even though they're all 'good guys')

i DO have a lot of sympathy for hancock, tama and ace

Very true except Robin

 

[Buusatan94]

Nah for Hancock it's justified
She was enslaved and used as a sex slave by Celestial Dragons as a child. Them being male obviously.

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Very true except Robin

Celestial Dragons aren't just males, and the female CD are just as cruel, sadistic and twisted as the male ones. Plus male slaves of the CD suffered just as much as her, her sisters and other female slaves not counting that she was saved by Fisher Tiger, a man and fishman who could have hated her and humans in general but still saved her and the others as she herself acknowledged.

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

Celestial Dragons aren't just males, and the female CD are just as cruel, sadistic and twisted as the male ones. Plus male slaves of the CD suffered just as much as her, her sisters and other female slaves not counting that she was saved by Fisher Tiger, a man and fishman who could have hated her and humans in general but still saved her and the others as she herself acknowledged.

Yes but the female CDs aren't the ones who raped her

 

[Buusatan94]

Yes but the female CDs aren't the ones who raped her

Who knows, unfortunately and horrifically female rapists do exist, and even if the Boa sisters didn't suffer from them, male slaves may have suffered from them.

And it's unfair to blame all males or females for the crimes commited by an individual or group of individuals.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Yes but the female CDs aren't the ones who raped her

We don’t know that. We just know she was likely tortured by all of them.

 

[Buusatan94]

No she knew the whole time cause her fucking shark told her.

Worse is that how Oda tried to pull the same misunderstood hero trick with Oden, to try to justify him submitting to Orochi and Kaido and doing that retarded dance, with him "saving" hostages only to help bring even more deaths and suffering to his homeland and people.

Kaido was far too kind to just call him a foolish lord.

 

[DonWick]

I don’t have any sympathy for Big Mom eating mother Caramel.

I don’t have any sympathy for Sanji being weak and I don’t admire him not hitting women or feeding potential enemies.

Yassop leaving his son his top tier bullshit. I’d kick him off the crew if I was Shanks.

 

[rerere]

ODEN

 

[MonsterKaido]

Toki should have married Kaido instead

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Momo would be too strong

 

[ClovenHoofClown]

roger, rayleigh, sengoku, impel down staff, drake, garp, momo

 

[Buusatan94]

The story often tries to make us forget that many of the characters that ally with the Straw Hats are vile scumbags such as Crocodile, Caribou, Caesar, Bege and his crew, Kidd or the Vinsmokes (save for Reiju).

 

[ClovenHoofClown]

The story often tries to make us forget that many of the characters that ally with the Straw Hats are vile scumbags such as Crocodile, Caribou, Caesar, Bege and his crew, Kidd or the Vinsmokes (save for Reiju).

even reiju is evil. she still works under germa even though she doesnt have to
it doesnt matter if she behaves more morally when the others arent watching her (which might not even be the case, she could just have soft spots that we got to see because of sanji)

 

[Topi Jerami]

7 Vegacucks, good that now they are falling like flies.
Thought 9 red scabbards were bad already, but 7 Vegacucks surpassed them. Scabbards had some decent ones like Ashura Doji and the dukes. All 7 Vegacucks are equally annoying.