Powers & Abilities Clearing a Misconception

#1
I think this point was addressed earlier too but the fandom either has fish memory or the first vibe/impression whether right or wrong is stuck and remains forever in the fandom discourse.

There multiple points that need to be addressed and understood about the Zoro CoC confirmation. At no point did Gaban say that Zoros use of ACoC or his level of CoC is lacking rather he said that Zoros body had greatly grown accustomed to CoC. So the notion that Zoro has bad/weak CoC or cannot use CoC proficiently is wrong.

Second thing to note is that neither Gaban nor Luffy who both knew about Zoros passive CoC comment on Zoro oozing so much CoC as bad or some sort of inefficient usage/leakage.

The whole point of the reveal was to identify the users who have ACoC which in this case was Luffy, Zoro and Loki and inform them that the current enemy is weak to ACoC hence these guys are best suited to fight them.

Gabans anger/comment of How Absurd is his annoyance that Zoro is unaware of his power which is very careless and unbecoming of a Yonkos RHM. The situation is similar to Zoro learning haki against Mr 1 but not being aware that he can use this against DF users like Smoker, Croc, Enel etc.

The scolding was for being unaware of your own power rather than not being able to use it.

The situation is similar to Loki who already knows that he has the power to defeat the HK but is not aware of its name or it being a very specific counter.

@nik87 @Lor D. Coast @Shimotsuki Fenaker @mly90 @HA001 @Cruxroux etc.
 
#3
I disagree strictly because of the writing surrounding the moment

Zoro’s ACoC use isn’t necessarily bad but it’s clear that Oda put that there to set Zoro up for some much needed development in that area

I’d say right now Zoro’s ACoC is “sufficient” but it needs to be “phenomenal” (narratively) in order for him to fight and defeat strong top tiers like Mihawk or Nusjuro

If there are levels to it then he’s currently in the Yamatoish range. By the time the arc ends I expect him to push up to skysplitting levels

Though there’s a chance Oda may not showcase this with Zoro till Zoro vs Mihawk
 
#9
I think this point was addressed earlier too but the fandom either has fish memory or the first vibe/impression whether right or wrong is stuck and remains forever in the fandom discourse.

There multiple points that need to be addressed and understood about the Zoro CoC confirmation. At no point did Gaban say that Zoros use of ACoC or his level of CoC is lacking rather he said that Zoros body had greatly grown accustomed to CoC. So the notion that Zoro has bad/weak CoC or cannot use CoC proficiently is wrong.

Second thing to note is that neither Gaban nor Luffy who both knew about Zoros passive CoC comment on Zoro oozing so much CoC as bad or some sort of inefficient usage/leakage.

The whole point of the reveal was to identify the users who have ACoC which in this case was Luffy, Zoro and Loki and inform them that the current enemy is weak to ACoC hence these guys are best suited to fight them.

Gabans anger/comment of How Absurd is his annoyance that Zoro is unaware of his power which is very careless and unbecoming of a Yonkos RHM. The situation is similar to Zoro learning haki against Mr 1 but not being aware that he can use this against DF users like Smoker, Croc, Enel etc.

The scolding was for being unaware of your own power rather than not being able to use it.

The situation is similar to Loki who already knows that he has the power to defeat the HK but is not aware of its name or it being a very specific counter.

@nik87 @Lor D. Coast @Shimotsuki Fenaker @mly90 @HA001 @Cruxroux etc.
You forgot to tag the most important user for this matter: @Rootbeer

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#10
isn't zoro fans the ones saying that?

To wank zoro by saying that he will get even stronger when he becomes actually proficient with acoc?
Don't really care who is saying it or not
I personally think that Zoro also used ACoC against Lucci in final attack and was probably using it against Nasujuro too making him block the attack.

There is a difference in haki usage proficiency and haki strength, if Zoro can manipulate his haki level like in his attacks then the issue is not with proficiency. His haki strength will increase on its own when he gets stronger physically and his CoA improves. His CoA feats are already some of the best in the manga (strength wise).

However, it is not to say that Zoro won't get stronger overall since Oda has not really made a clear difference between skill and strength most of the time. So saying that Zoro who knows he has ACoC and can use it to counter some things is stronger than Zoro who has ACoC who doesn't know about using it to counter some things is correct.
 
#14
So you're somehow claiming the first line Gaban said to Zoro, was that he had awesome CoC?..

is that neither Gaban nor Luffy who both knew about Zoros passive CoC comment on Zoro oozing so much CoC
As you confirmed yourself , Gaban's just saying in a subtle way what Luffy said bluntly, him leaking out CoC.. It was a leading statement.. There are no direct affirmation of Zoro's CoC being great, good, average or bad..

Gaban was like: '' why you leaking out bro ''..

The scolding was for being unaware of your own power rather than not being able to use it.
It was for being unaware of it, And not controlling it.. What does using CoC mean here, just oozing CoC out of his body.. Enma has to do all the CoC manipulation and conversion to CoA Lightning.. Then Zoro knows how to use CoA on his blades, else he knows nothing about CoC..

I live in a Bizarre world where Zoro having AdCoC is normalized, but how do you expect a dude to do CoC Coating manipulation when he's not aware of CoC or how to control it.. This is mind blowing..
 
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