General & Others Could the editors be forcing Oda's hands to make Luffy an overpowered protagonist?

#41
Who could imagine that the close we get to the end of the manga the stronger Luffy would get.

Seriously there's only 4 villains left to Luffy defeat, Kaido, Akainu, Teach and Imu, of course he will get to a lvl where only guys like those can fight him, while all other character are weaklings, some readers seems to have a hard time in understand that the manga is close to ending.



The lvl of cope getting crazy
 
#42
logias are canonically the strongest DFs

Oda just introduced a bunch of weak logias at the beginning of the post skip to show how they aren't overpowered anymore. Doesn't change the fact that the two EOS antagonists are still logias.
Logias are thrash except for Light DF and Dark(that shouldn't even be logia) at specific situations.
Look at Fire DF, everybody can make fire. Even Lightining DF is being replicated so much now.

After Haki there is no point on being Logia anymore. Paramecia and Zoans works better with haki then Logias.
 
#43
How is a worse version possible? Zoo didn't even have that Haki and was able to cut Kaido, now he's considerably stronger. Even if he doesn't kill Kaido, you wouldn't be able to hear the end of this until Oda actually compares them.

No other manga will even leave the question on the table
Oda gave Luffy AdCoC so he can fight against a Yonko. Oda gave Zoro AdCoC so he could fight against a Yonko Commander. Luffy wouldn't need AdCoC to beat King. Zoro was getting his dick busted until he unlocked it, and would have lost otherwise.

Oda has made the shit perfectly clear. Ridiculous amounts of mental gymnastics is the only thing that keeps this garbage argument that Zoro is comparable to Luffy, alive.
 
#45
I feel Oda is rolling a magnificent work at having Luffy eventually strong enough to nerf a yonko visibly more nerfed than he is and have him reach yonko level perhaps in an arc or two.
 
#46
I feel Oda is rolling a magnificent work at having Luffy eventually strong enough to nerf a yonko visibly more nerfed than he is and have him reach yonko level perhaps in an arc or two.
I feel, instead, he did a good job with his growth, even better than what we've witnessed against the Cp9.
-1 or 2 weeks of intense training in the only area he wasn't at the peak
-Inevitable loss against the strongest being in the universe
-The goat got weakened in a 5vs1 fight plus Yamato interventon, but so is Luffy
-Final round were it finally seems a clean 1vs1

There weren't many other ways, at least is coherent because Luffy was training. On the contrary, makes no sense Law's fruit weakening: why didn't you use it against Doflamingo 3 weeks ago?

Conclusion: rapid growth for a fighting genius, who was already top notch after 1,5 years of Training with the Dark King himself.

Against Sakazuki or Teach there won't be second chances, they will kill you if you fail.
 
#47
Oda gave Luffy AdCoC so he can fight against a Yonko. Oda gave Zoro AdCoC so he could fight against a Yonko Commander. Luffy wouldn't need AdCoC to beat King. Zoro was getting his dick busted until he unlocked it, and would have lost otherwise.

Oda has made the shit perfectly clear. Ridiculous amounts of mental gymnastics is the only thing that keeps this garbage argument that Zoro is comparable to Luffy, alive.
Luffy wouldn't need CoC to beat King? The guy literally tanked the same moves that hurt Kaido, when his guard was up. You think that fat ass Red Roc could just have been spammed to knock out arguably the best flying blitz in the series. Oda already bodied all the goofs who exaggerate about "adv CoA Luffy" anyway
 
#48
Luffy wouldn't need CoC to beat King? The guy literally tanked the same moves that hurt Kaido, when his guard was up. You think that fat ass Red Roc could just have been spammed to knock out arguably the best flying blitz in the series. Oda already bodied all the goofs who exaggerate about "adv CoA Luffy" anyway
Chapter 1037 has already shit on your theory right there. Luffy is fast enough combining Gear 2 and Gear 3 creating the Rock series.

Not just that but chapter 1009 also shits on your thoery as well. Hybrid Kaido was dodging base Luffy punches with internal destrucrtion haki.

King never stood a chance against chapter 1000 luffy.

And just to drive that point further,

Oda himself in sbs 100 and Kaido's Vivre Card databook has stated nobody got kaido that excited in battle since Oden.

Internal Destruction Haki break right through kings defense.

This haki was strong eneough for Garp to laeve lasting damage on Marco as shown him wearing a bandage where Garp hit and force him out of his zoan form.
 
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#49
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Chapter 1037 has already shit on your theory right there. Luffy is fast enough combining Gear 2 and Gear 3 creating the Rock series.

Not just that but chapter 1009 also shits on your thoery as well. Hybrid Kaido was dodging base Luffy punches with internal destrucrtion haki.

King never stood a chance against chapter 1000 luffy.

And just to drive that point further,

Oda himself in sbs 100 and Kaido's Vivre Card databook has stated nobody got kaido that excited in battle since Oden.

Internal Destruction Haki break right through kinfs defense. This haki was strong eneough for Garo to laeve lasting damage on Marco as shown him wearing a bandage where Gar0 hit and force him out of his zoan form.
GOATED post.

Luffy has internal damaging haki which would bypass Kings tough exterior.

Current Luffy > Chapter 1000 Luffy = Current Zoro > King

:kawak:
 
#50
Luffy's journey is to surpass the four emperors or in his own words "whoop their asses". His goal is essentially becoming the strongest pirate there is and so overpowered that no one will encroach on his freedom.

As the story gets closer and closer to the end, the gap between him and a lot of other characters will continue to grow, after all there can only be one Pirate King.

I don't know whether Deku was always meant to be overpowered, but with Luffy it has been obvious since chapter 1 that to achieve his goal he needed to be the strongest pirate there is.

Also, I doubt Zoro and a lot of other characters will become irrelevant since their relevance is not tied to Luffy's strength, they have their own goals and ambitions.
 
#53
Luffy wouldn't need CoC to beat King? The guy literally tanked the same moves that hurt Kaido, when his guard was up. You think that fat ass Red Roc could just have been spammed to knock out arguably the best flying blitz in the series. Oda already bodied all the goofs who exaggerate about "adv CoA Luffy" anyway
Sure. Just like Marco needed AdCoC to damage King with blunt force attacks, right?
 
#54
Chapter 1037 has already shit on your theory right there. Luffy is fast enough combining Gear 2 and Gear 3 creating the Rock series.
so my theory that he would need CoC to be strong enough gets shit on by him using CoC to be strong enough. Got it.

Sure. Just like Marco needed AdCoC to damage King with blunt force attacks, right?
Luffy went head to head with a lower tier opponent and without using his greatest powers was in trouble.

Yeah that's the same as Marco, Whitebeard's best man, giving King some trouble before getting knocked on his ass and giving up before King even got serious lol
 

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#57
Why are ppl bringing King's irrelevant ass to the convo? Once Luffy figure out his trick. He gets cooked by a red roc. King stans stay creating myths, only adcoc can hurt him due to his Lunarian genes foh lool. What a bunch of nonsense:hapnoel:

If adcoc is the only way to put down a Lunarian, how tf did a whole race get packed easily???
Lemme guess, the World Government was swimminging back then with loads of adcoc users, that must be it:risicheck:
 
#60
They were looking for pluton's plan which Franky destroyed so they likely don't have it

As for Uranus it is probably the weapon Crocodile was looking for

You also need a Poneglyph reader for ancient weapons so no they probably didn't kill lunarian using Ancient weapons
 
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