General & Others Could the editors be forcing Oda's hands to make Luffy an overpowered protagonist?
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The premise of this thread being that a host of other people like Zoro were close to Luffy to begin with such that any widening of the gap between them constitutes Luffy being overpowered is the issue to begin with.
I don’t know how many times it has to be spelled out for people within this fanbase to simply shut up and accept it: captains are on a whole different level. This has been pointed out an immeasurable amount of times from the beginning of the series, all the way back to the East blue, as Luffy was fighting enemies far superior than those the next in line was fighting. It was literally stated in Enies Lobby when Luffy fought someone that was twice as strong as the enemy Zoro fought, and Zoro himself acknowledged that it wasn’t something he’d be able to handle. It was spelled out again when they were gathered around Luffy in Thriller Bark and they all talked about how there were enemies that only Luffy could handle. It was pointed out when they were considering their training because they recognized that Luffy was carrying them.
It was directly shown when every single captain of a pirate crew had ever shown up along side his crew: the difference between Big Mom and her crew, Whitebeard and his crew, Kaido and his crew, Shanks and his crew, etc. It was shown when Oden got his ass whipped by Whitebeard and later Roger, and then watched as Whitebeard and Roger split the sky casually in a spar. It is shown when Zoro used his strongest attack and scarred Kaido, and Kaido turned his back on him while he proceeded to fight someone he deemed worth his time while Zoro was relegated to fighting and struggling against someone Kaido would murder with ease (while Law and Kid, captains and Luffy’s rivals, are also fighting someone far above the opponent Zoro fought). It is shown while Luffy is fighting Kaido in base, while Zoro gets overwhelmed by a subordinate.
This whole “Luffy is overpowered,” discussion is a lie. This is how it’s always been. Luffy has always been far superior to anyone in his crew, and as the competition has gotten tougher, that gap has widened. It’s a lie to say that Luffy is overpowered, made up by people who cling to x character being close to Luffy because the only thing they value is strength. It’s a lie to say it’s Oda’s fault or the editors fault, because they’ve been honest about it from the beginning. The only one at fault are the fanboys and the people that took it any other way to begin with.
I don’t know how many times it has to be spelled out for people within this fanbase to simply shut up and accept it: captains are on a whole different level. This has been pointed out an immeasurable amount of times from the beginning of the series, all the way back to the East blue, as Luffy was fighting enemies far superior than those the next in line was fighting. It was literally stated in Enies Lobby when Luffy fought someone that was twice as strong as the enemy Zoro fought, and Zoro himself acknowledged that it wasn’t something he’d be able to handle. It was spelled out again when they were gathered around Luffy in Thriller Bark and they all talked about how there were enemies that only Luffy could handle. It was pointed out when they were considering their training because they recognized that Luffy was carrying them.
It was directly shown when every single captain of a pirate crew had ever shown up along side his crew: the difference between Big Mom and her crew, Whitebeard and his crew, Kaido and his crew, Shanks and his crew, etc. It was shown when Oden got his ass whipped by Whitebeard and later Roger, and then watched as Whitebeard and Roger split the sky casually in a spar. It is shown when Zoro used his strongest attack and scarred Kaido, and Kaido turned his back on him while he proceeded to fight someone he deemed worth his time while Zoro was relegated to fighting and struggling against someone Kaido would murder with ease (while Law and Kid, captains and Luffy’s rivals, are also fighting someone far above the opponent Zoro fought). It is shown while Luffy is fighting Kaido in base, while Zoro gets overwhelmed by a subordinate.
This whole “Luffy is overpowered,” discussion is a lie. This is how it’s always been. Luffy has always been far superior to anyone in his crew, and as the competition has gotten tougher, that gap has widened. It’s a lie to say that Luffy is overpowered, made up by people who cling to x character being close to Luffy because the only thing they value is strength. It’s a lie to say it’s Oda’s fault or the editors fault, because they’ve been honest about it from the beginning. The only one at fault are the fanboys and the people that took it any other way to begin with.
When luffy unlocks Joyboy powerup against ImuThe salt will be gold
Couldnt even handle that Zoro fought against 2 yonko so then came the ridiculous " rooftop was filler" shit you were saying to cope
LMAO yeah I do. Sanji and Jinbe specifically went to go help Luffy so that he wasn't stalled by Gifters just the same, and stay tuned for the rest of this post
Ohhh King had help. That's what makes him different from Luffy pre CoC
Ohhh King had help. That's what makes him different from Luffy pre CoC
I mean I don't really see what's different from the 1000 chapters we've had before.
Currently Luffy is having the upper hand against kaido but eventually kaido will pull something that shifts the tide.
Zorotards will be having a field day and everything will be back to normal, before Luffy pulls out his new power.
Rinse and repeat.
Currently Luffy is having the upper hand against kaido but eventually kaido will pull something that shifts the tide.
Zorotards will be having a field day and everything will be back to normal, before Luffy pulls out his new power.
Rinse and repeat.
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One shot sneezes at? It's probably pointless to try understanding what this shit is supposed to mean, how about you find a scan.
They never got stalled by gifters like Zoro
Zoro was huffing against Them whereas Sanji needs 3 sec to beat them
Luffy doesn't think 3 sec is too much but only that they Can go faster if they are two
They didn't go help Luffy they just didn't want him to fight them so he keeps his energy for Kaido
Zoro is the only one who got overwhelmed by gifters
This is what we call getting stalled
Zoro was huffing against Them whereas Sanji needs 3 sec to beat them
Luffy doesn't think 3 sec is too much but only that they Can go faster if they are two
They didn't go help Luffy they just didn't want him to fight them so he keeps his energy for Kaido
Zoro is the only one who got overwhelmed by gifters
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This is what we call getting stalled
They never got stalled by gifters like Zoro
Zoro was huffing against Them whereas Sanji needs 3 sec to beat them
Luffy doesn't think 3 sec is too much but only that they Can go faster if they are two
They didn't go help Luffy they just didn't want him to fight them so he keeps his energy for Kaido
Zoro is the only one who got overwhelmed by gifters
This is what we call getting stalled
Zoro was huffing against Them whereas Sanji needs 3 sec to beat them
Luffy doesn't think 3 sec is too much but only that they Can go faster if they are two
They didn't go help Luffy they just didn't want him to fight them so he keeps his energy for Kaido
Zoro is the only one who got overwhelmed by gifters
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This is what we call getting stalled
Zoro also mentioned saving strength for Kaido while carrying Luffy, and guess who continued to do that while actually fighting Kaido? Lol
It is different for Zoro. It always has been and it always will be.
Oda told Zoro and Luffy were equal in strength in the past. Since then, it goes back and forth between which one is stronger.
Of course, you and others only want to focus on the times when Luffy is stronger. You talked about Kaido turning his back on Zoro but you overlooked when he did the same to Luffy.
Kaido knocked out Luffy and turned his back to Luffy when he faced Zoro. Zoro bested and scarred Kaido. After Luffy regained consciousness and obtained a new power he told us up to that point of time all of his attacks were too shallow. That was the manga way of telling us, prior to Luffy's new power, he wasn't strong enough to do anything significant to Kaido. It didn't matter if he's in base or G4. Rooftop Zoro was stronger than rooftop Luffy.
Now, Luffy is currently stronger than Zoro because he's had the opportunity to grow stronger, gain experience with his new power, recover, and face Kaido again.
Oda told Zoro and Luffy were equal in strength in the past. Since then, it goes back and forth between which one is stronger.
Of course, you and others only want to focus on the times when Luffy is stronger. You talked about Kaido turning his back on Zoro but you overlooked when he did the same to Luffy.
Kaido knocked out Luffy and turned his back to Luffy when he faced Zoro. Zoro bested and scarred Kaido. After Luffy regained consciousness and obtained a new power he told us up to that point of time all of his attacks were too shallow. That was the manga way of telling us, prior to Luffy's new power, he wasn't strong enough to do anything significant to Kaido. It didn't matter if he's in base or G4. Rooftop Zoro was stronger than rooftop Luffy.
Now, Luffy is currently stronger than Zoro because he's had the opportunity to grow stronger, gain experience with his new power, recover, and face Kaido again.
Nope Luffy's speech bubble have two marks which points toward him
The one which says I'll do it in 3 sec don't have them, is located on Sanji's side of the panel and is under Sanji's first speech bubble
Therefore it's Sanji who said I'll do it in 3 sec
Also he said I and not WE so he's not taking Luffy into account
Yamato was fighting Sasaki at this moment she wasn't with Luffy
Even without Jimbei Sanji wasn't struggling to beat the gifters contrary to Zoro
So Zoro needed help lmaaooo
You are already coping
Facts are there Luffy didn't get stalled by gifters and won't have been contrary to Zoro
You can't talk about Kid I don't care dude
The one which says I'll do it in 3 sec don't have them, is located on Sanji's side of the panel and is under Sanji's first speech bubble
Therefore it's Sanji who said I'll do it in 3 sec
Also he said I and not WE so he's not taking Luffy into account
Yamato was fighting Sasaki at this moment she wasn't with Luffy
Even without Jimbei Sanji wasn't struggling to beat the gifters contrary to Zoro
So Zoro needed help lmaaooo
You are already coping
Facts are there Luffy didn't get stalled by gifters and won't have been contrary to Zoro
You can't talk about Kid I don't care dude