General & Others Damage control

*this thread will serve as damage controls during Oden flashbacks

@comrade @Bogard @Red Admiral @Sentinel
I love some damage controls ....

I can use it to my advantage but putting Teach or Akainu in another level compere to Dark King
or make a war in Zoro fandom

but let's chill ...



enjoy the 100% clear feats .... like highest advance CoA on action ... (what we will see soon)
or Gura Gura full power
 
Fujitora don't have any wordsmanship related fame
Because he isn't the strongest swordsman. No one cares about him.

Mihawk is the currently strongest. So they refer to him as the greatest swordsmaster. Ryuma was the sword god of his era. A renown which is known even to the present day. And then we have Roger. The greatest of them all. No black blade and no swordsmanship related fame at all.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Because he isn't the strongest swordsman. No one cares about him.

Mihawk is the currently strongest. So they refer to him as the greatest swordsmaster. Ryuma was the sword god of his era. A renown which is known even to the present day. And then we have Roger. The greatest of them all. No black blade and no swordsmanship related fame at all.
Weve seen this chapter individual strength is not a deciding factor on becoming king. The strongest as you say roger would never be king without begging his rival for his crew memeber.
 
Because he isn't the strongest swordsman. No one cares about him.

Mihawk is the currently strongest. So they refer to him as the greatest swordsmaster. Ryuma was the sword god of his era. A renown which is known even to the present day. And then we have Roger. The greatest of them all. No black blade and no swordsmanship related fame at all.
yes ... cause titles such as strongest swordsman or greatest swordsman "should also be about one man swordsmanship"


we have different levels of Haki
we have different levels of DF
we HAVE different levels of SWORDSMANSHIP

Roger is highest on Haki and is good in swordsmanship

but as long as his swordsmanship don't be the best ... like Ryuma and Mihawk ... he won't be known as WSS ... and he shoudn't


as long as you consider WSS as "stronger than all swordsman in over all power"
and
Roger the strongest but not WSS


your brain can't solve this ...

you NEED TO pick one
 
Let’s remember what the argument was from the beginning

A: -Shanks is a swordsman therefore he is weaker than Mihawk

B: - Are toi saying that Mihawk is Yonko level? Are you insane??! Anyway Shanks is not a swordsman

A: -He is rival to Mihawk

B-Shanks use haki and swordsmen did not therefore he is not a true swordsman. Out of here with your wanking!

*We see Zoro used Haki*

A: So...

B: -Shanks has another fighting style!!!

A: -Which is ?

B: -We need to see Shanks fight at full power to know. If he fights at full power with a sword he is a swordsman. But it is obvious that he is not just a swordsman

*We see Roger fought his strongest rival and his equal with a sword, we even seen him used a named attack with a sword *

A: -So...

B: -Roger is not a swordsman!!!

A: -But you said that if someone fight at full power with a sword he is swordsman...

B-Yeah but even if you fight at your full power with a sword you could not be a swordsman!!

Moving the goal post everytime, every god damn time.:kayneshrug::kayneshrug:

i admit that I did not saw the last argument coming tho :milaugh::milaugh::milaugh:

At this point it is like arguing with someone who says that Ostriches are not birds because they cannot fly :feelsokeman::feelsokeman:
 
few things
- oden doesnt seem to know the adv coa roger used
- No skies were split.
- wb , shanks clash along with kaido and bm required them to come in contact. First time we see two top tiers using advanced armament.
- roger is a swordsman
-Roger pirates at their prime fought equally with young wb pirates
- akainu and the marines crushed wb pirates at their prime with the exception of wb
in conclusion
GODKAINU AND THE MARINES REMAIN SUPREME.
 

Bogard

You can't win
Whitebeard was sweating when he clashed with Oden but smiling confidently when he clashed with Roger. Oden > Roger

When will fanboy logic ever fail us tbh
This wasn't a power level inconsistency. The Whitebeard crew was close to the coast where if something went bad, they'd have fallen back like Big Mom's crew did after King recked them, so Whitebeard wasn't worried about himself against Oden. He was worried about his crew's safety.

In a sense, Roger said something similar to Rayleigh/Scopper this chapter despite Rayleigh being a top tier, although it seemed less serious. And considering Oden could scar Kaido, it further shows Oden could hang with top tiers.

But Roger/Prime Whitebeard were a lvl higher. In the initial clash with Oden, Whitebeard didn't harden his sword when Oden did.

When Roger did so, he swatted Oden away as a fly with Oden not understanding what's going on, and he was out of words completely when both Roger and Whitebeard hardened their swords and used a haki lvl attack being so huge it was shifting the moby dick at the other side of the island without their weapons colliding.

Which was a way to overall show that while Oden can hang with top tiers, Roger/Primebeard are a lvl higher to even Oden's understanding
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
This wasn't a power level inconsistency. The Whitebeard crew was close to the coast where if something went bad, they'd have fallen back like Big Mom's crew did after King recked them, so Whitebeard wasn't worried about himself against Oden. He was worried about his crew's safety.

In a sense, Roger said something similar to Rayleigh/Scopper this chapter despite Rayleigh being a top tier, although it seemed less serious. And considering Oden could scar Kaido, it further shows Oden could hang with top tiers.

But Roger/Prime Whitebeard were a lvl higher. In the initial clash with Oden, Whitebeard didn't harden his sword when Oden did.

When Roger did so, he swatted Oden away as a fly with Oden not understanding what's going on, and he was out of words completely when both Roger and Whitebeard hardened their swords and used a haki lvl attack being so huge it was shifting the moby dick at the other side of the island without their weapons colliding.

Which was a way to overall show that while Oden can hang with top tiers, Roger/Primebeard are a lvl higher to even Oden's understanding
I was spoofing some of the terrible logic I’ve seen online lol.
 
Top