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How can you be sure of that, Joyboy is mentionned first in Fishmen island. But if if that was not the case it doesn't matter. We don't care when an author has an idea as long as it make sence. And here...

Everything make sence.
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It was always a reality warping devil fruit, did you actually read the thread ???
It was limited to his own body.
But summoning glasses out of thin air?
Where was it foreshadowed?

Now, if you give this bullshit a pass, people like you will call it a foreshadowing after 5 years. Just to justify Luffy summoning guns, rockets, and swords (like Jim Carrey from The Mask).

Then again, concealing the body transformation and calling it a rubber ability is still a bait and switch strategy.
 
So basically just you and YouTube theorists :pepelit:
No good storytelling analyst in general


It was limited to his own body.
No, With red Hawk, Luffy was able to create fire in water.


But summoning glasses out of thin air?
That's the awakening, its a much insane power. As expected from an awakening.

gomu gomu no mi became hito hito no mi model nika

yeah sure not a retcon
Is Luffy not a rubber man anymore ? Did he just started using his imagination to transform his body and win his fights ?
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Even if you wanna argue the concept of Nika was in Oda's head during Skypiea, Luffy's fruit being at all related to the sun god was definitely not in the drafts until Jinbei and Who's Who threw hands. And even if it was, no shot it was executed well at all.
To be fair, there were theories regarding Luffy being Sun God and Nika before jinbei vs who's who.


People did speculate it because they had evidences.


What was not expected was luffy df will be modelled to Mythical zoan fruit to make him nika. There was no foreshadowing regarding this.
 
What was not expected was luffy df will be modelled to Mythical zoan fruit to make him nika. There was no foreshadowing regarding this.
No foreshadowing indeed because none needed, it would have ruined the revelation, but like I explained in the thread there were at least 10 shadowings, which are - if you understand what I wrote - essential to make the revelation cohesive and acceptable (to those who actually pay attention to the shadowings of course). Those are the way Luffy fight and the nature (physical and fighting) of the transformations.
 
No good storytelling analyst in general



No, With red Hawk, Luffy was able to create fire in water.



That's the awakening, its a much insane power. As expected from an awakening.


Is Luffy not a rubber man anymore ? Did he just started using his imagination to transform his body and win his fights ?
Creating fire is not summoning material things like glasses.
Zoro and Shanks have fire on their swords, and they are not DF users.

Gum Gum Fire-Fist Pistol Red Hawk

It was a reference to Ace and how Luffy inherited his will.
 
Creating fire is not summoning material things like glasses.
You are playing with fire here...


Zoro and Shanks have fire on their swords, and they are not DF users.
I explained the abilities of Zoro at the end of the thread, not sure about Shanks, I don't remember seeing fire on his sword.


Gum Gum Fire-Fist Pistol Red Hawk

It was a reference to Ace and how Luffy inherited his will.
Yup, that's what I explain in the thread.


a rubber guy can do anything he wants??
Not everything, I'm sure there is a limit.. but toonish things yeah.. just like the awakening of the Nika fruit should be. But you didn't answer the questions..
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
No foreshadowing indeed because none needed, it would have ruined the revelation, but like I explained in the thread there were at least 10 shadowings, which are - if you understand what I wrote - essential to make the revelation cohesive and acceptable (to those who actually pay attention to the shadowings of course). Those are the way Luffy fight and the nature (physical and fighting) of the transformations.
I don't need to read your analysis to make sense of the story.

Do I believe nika was foreshadowed? Yes


Do I like G5? To some extent yes

Do I think Oda deliberately hold df reveal to be surprise element? Perhaps


Does it make WG looks like clown? Yes because they had info yet they didn't do shit about it until oda was about to drop luffy awakening



Was execution top notch? Certainly not and I definitely understand why some people are upset about it.


I don't need to blindly wank something and try to superimpose my opinion on others just to call others haters for expressing their dislike. More so when many people who are arguing against this happens to be Luffy fans or like other Gears .

Likeness is subjective and everyone has different taste.
 
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