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That just shows how you don't know a shit about my opinion towards One Piece and even less about One Piece.
Me calling you woke and Yamato a woman doesn't mean I have a ideological criticism towards One Piece.
In fact I must be the one around here that defend the most One Piece up to Zou. From WCI and on I will shit this shit work Oda has being writting.
Me calling you woke and Yamato a woman doesn't mean I have a ideological criticism towards One Piece.
In fact I must be the one around here that defend the most One Piece up to Zou. From WCI and on I will shit this shit work Oda has being writting.
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It is not a transformation it is a technique. He just coated himself with magma-like fire. And it is featless so we can't say it is more powerful. The only feat is melting Onigashima horn which means nothing. We can easily put this transformation on the level of Zoro attack that cut the other horn off.
And I thought you were analyzing his work. You would notice that he had Doflaming,o Katakuri, Luffy, Kid, Law and Lucci saying that they were awakened. Why it would be different for Kaido? Even Impel Down guards we had Crocodile saying they were awakened.
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I rather not debate you since you don't bring any valid argument to it. I'm just exposing the fraud that you are. You just think you are better than anyone else and no one else understand One Piece like it was somewhat difficult to understand.
And I thought you were analyzing his work. You would notice that he had Doflaming,o Katakuri, Luffy, Kid, Law and Lucci saying that they were awakened. Why it would be different for Kaido? Even Impel Down guards we had Crocodile saying they were awakened.
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I rather not debate you since you don't bring any valid argument to it. I'm just exposing the fraud that you are. You just think you are better than anyone else and no one else understand One Piece like it was somewhat difficult to understand.
Well gotta say I am curious about what you have to say about this so Ill wait till the thread.
Nah the theft of Ryuma's corpse and the national treasure was states to have brought the entire country to it's knees. Zoro was caught cause someone spotted the sword and framed him as the vile thief.
It became a huge contrivance. Kawamatsu is a walking counter to any reason for Kaido thinking his method would work. Once again, we have absolutely 0 evidence of this ever working. Just a contrived plot device for getting Luffy into Udon.
Sanji was still called the kindest SH. Luffy, Nami, Chopper and Franky displayed far more kindness than him. Even Robin's sacrifice was more kind.
You can say Sanji is misunderstood or that his mistakes ate exaggerated, but the best written? No way.
Who counts as a real character to you? From the top of my head Robin, Franky and Whitebeard comes to mind.
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Should elaborate that I'm talking about conquerors. Kaido of all people should know how stubborn COC users are from Oden, to Xebec, to WB, to Shanks, to his own daughter who resisted him for 20 years. Add in the fact that a non conqueror like Kawamatsu easily resisted for 13 years then you see the whole problem.
He choose to feed Krieg despite knowing his nature due to warnings from his fellow chefs. Sanji ignoring them would've caused the Baratie to be taken. In Enies Lobby, Sanji refusing to sacrifice his code would've led to Robin being a prisoner and everyone dying, but luckily that bathwater fell on him.
Nah the theft of Ryuma's corpse and the national treasure was states to have brought the entire country to it's knees. Zoro was caught cause someone spotted the sword and framed him as the vile thief.
It became a huge contrivance. Kawamatsu is a walking counter to any reason for Kaido thinking his method would work. Once again, we have absolutely 0 evidence of this ever working. Just a contrived plot device for getting Luffy into Udon.
Sanji was still called the kindest SH. Luffy, Nami, Chopper and Franky displayed far more kindness than him. Even Robin's sacrifice was more kind.
You can say Sanji is misunderstood or that his mistakes ate exaggerated, but the best written? No way.
Who counts as a real character to you? From the top of my head Robin, Franky and Whitebeard comes to mind.
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Should elaborate that I'm talking about conquerors. Kaido of all people should know how stubborn COC users are from Oden, to Xebec, to WB, to Shanks, to his own daughter who resisted him for 20 years. Add in the fact that a non conqueror like Kawamatsu easily resisted for 13 years then you see the whole problem.
He choose to feed Krieg despite knowing his nature due to warnings from his fellow chefs. Sanji ignoring them would've caused the Baratie to be taken. In Enies Lobby, Sanji refusing to sacrifice his code would've led to Robin being a prisoner and everyone dying, but luckily that bathwater fell on him.
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Well.. technically.. zoro was badly seen in wano..
This is just what evil guys usually do. Kaido is kinda of an obsessive guys. His method not working might not be something that should stop him. In fact in his position, its logical for him to make this mistake again and again. Again we need to remember that characters are not machines, especially in one piece where they sometimes make huge mistakes that create huge plot points.
This is debatable. But I won't go into that debate.
There is a lot of good characters in One Piece, but Oda put the bar very high with Sanji. It simply one of those in which Oda put the most care in.
That's actually a bad wording from my part. All characters are real character. The thing is some character are just more detailed because they need to be. other don't need to be fleshed out to much. For example it wouldn't make sence to create an entire arc of character for someone like Kokoro, but its important for characters like Franky.
This is just what evil guys usually do. Kaido is kinda of an obsessive guys. His method not working might not be something that should stop him. In fact in his position, its logical for him to make this mistake again and again. Again we need to remember that characters are not machines, especially in one piece where they sometimes make huge mistakes that create huge plot points.
This is debatable. But I won't go into that debate.
There is a lot of good characters in One Piece, but Oda put the bar very high with Sanji. It simply one of those in which Oda put the most care in.
That's actually a bad wording from my part. All characters are real character. The thing is some character are just more detailed because they need to be. other don't need to be fleshed out to much. For example it wouldn't make sence to create an entire arc of character for someone like Kokoro, but its important for characters like Franky.
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I can only agree that you don't know what you are talking about.
Magma Fire Kaido is just like Kaoiken from Goku.
Yes it does. They have the same feat to destroy a horn from Onigashima. We can't say it is Kaido strongest technique unless it pulls some real feats for it.
For example base Lucci had no chance against G2. And while Hybrid Lucci also had no chance during first activation at least he could pull a fight on later activations.
Base Doflamingo had no chance against G4 but his awakening could stall it long enough to survive first activation(plot armor helped him of course).
We can't say the same about Kaido. He was humiliating G5 and just lost when he pulled that new technique no one knows what is capable of besides melting a stupid horn.
But he has pattern for that. And you are just ignoring it because you can't even admit that you are wrong. That's how messed up you are.
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Yeah good point about CoC users. BUT! We lack to know about Rocks crew. I have a feeling that Kaido is pretty much following Xebec steps so his former captain probably had something on the lines and maybe it worked out with Kaido, Big Mom and Whitebeard.
I have to think a bit about this.
Magma Fire Kaido is just like Kaoiken from Goku.
Yes it does. They have the same feat to destroy a horn from Onigashima. We can't say it is Kaido strongest technique unless it pulls some real feats for it.
For example base Lucci had no chance against G2. And while Hybrid Lucci also had no chance during first activation at least he could pull a fight on later activations.
Base Doflamingo had no chance against G4 but his awakening could stall it long enough to survive first activation(plot armor helped him of course).
We can't say the same about Kaido. He was humiliating G5 and just lost when he pulled that new technique no one knows what is capable of besides melting a stupid horn.
But he has pattern for that. And you are just ignoring it because you can't even admit that you are wrong. That's how messed up you are.
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Yeah good point about CoC users. BUT! We lack to know about Rocks crew. I have a feeling that Kaido is pretty much following Xebec steps so his former captain probably had something on the lines and maybe it worked out with Kaido, Big Mom and Whitebeard.
I have to think a bit about this.
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Nonsense. There is nothing amazing in OP since EL and/or MF.
The story is going on for 26y, and 10+- of these years are garbage.
The only reason that people still reading this mid manga is because they are attached to it, they have already spent many years reading/watching the series and has become their routine.
The story is going on for 26y, and 10+- of these years are garbage.
The only reason that people still reading this mid manga is because they are attached to it, they have already spent many years reading/watching the series and has become their routine.
this number alone is frightening
Let's agree to disagree :)
Zoro cut a horn, Kaido vaporized it. Not really the same effect.
Are we reading the same manga ?
Nop.
Kaido just lost because he was at the ends of his line. He did put a fight against gear 5 a great fight. But you need to remember that before that Kaido:
- Was still making an island float
- Beat the Kozuki Samourai
- Beat 5 worst gen
Saying that Kaido was humiliated is completely missunderstanding what Oda put on the page.
Sure.
Zoro cut a horn, Kaido vaporized it. Not really the same effect.
Are we reading the same manga ?
Nop.
Kaido just lost because he was at the ends of his line. He did put a fight against gear 5 a great fight. But you need to remember that before that Kaido:
- Was still making an island float
- Beat the Kozuki Samourai
- Beat 5 worst gen
Saying that Kaido was humiliated is completely missunderstanding what Oda put on the page.
Sure.
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Yeah Zoro was more effective.
Probably not. I'm reading One Piece you should be reading Woke Piece.
Actually he lost because he wanted to face Bajrang Gun head on. He could have dodged or stayed at Onigashima since Luffy wouldn't land it because it could have killed everybody there.
Making Onigashima fly as never told go weak Kaido.
Scabbards fight and Supernova fight did almost no damage to him. Only Zoro Asura did relevant damage before Luffy start to use CoC coating.
Oda is always making sure Luffy is having a fair 1v1 ln equal conditions. He and his opponent are always at same conditions when the fight end. Both Kaido and Luffy stated to be at their limits.
Besides the initial gag of G5 that barely harmed Kaido. He humiliated. That's why he had that line about only haki matters. And after that we just had Bajrang Gun where plot armor hit hard because Kaido was winning and Luffy just changed that because of talk no jutsu.
Probably not. I'm reading One Piece you should be reading Woke Piece.
Actually he lost because he wanted to face Bajrang Gun head on. He could have dodged or stayed at Onigashima since Luffy wouldn't land it because it could have killed everybody there.
Making Onigashima fly as never told go weak Kaido.
Scabbards fight and Supernova fight did almost no damage to him. Only Zoro Asura did relevant damage before Luffy start to use CoC coating.
Oda is always making sure Luffy is having a fair 1v1 ln equal conditions. He and his opponent are always at same conditions when the fight end. Both Kaido and Luffy stated to be at their limits.
Besides the initial gag of G5 that barely harmed Kaido. He humiliated. That's why he had that line about only haki matters. And after that we just had Bajrang Gun where plot armor hit hard because Kaido was winning and Luffy just changed that because of talk no jutsu.
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No it is not. For this kind of things Oda is very specific all the time. He is having Kaido and Luffy stating that they are at their limits because of the fight with each other. Not because any other thing. The only time we got Kaido getting weaker without fighting Luffy was after he fought Yamato.
Not sure if you understood my line. I said that besides Luffy making gags with Kaido in the beginning of their fight with G5, KAIDO was the one humiliating Luffy the rest of the battle.
And what that has to do with men and musculinity? Hold your wokeness.
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Except that he thinks I'm saying Kaido was humiliated when I'm saying Luffy was the one humiliated. And he is also forgetting that Luffy got knocked up multiple times and even died. If anything Luffy condition was much worse.
So Kaido was winning but he was humiliated ? 
Men and there fragile masculinity..
Men and there fragile masculinity..
And what that has to do with men and musculinity? Hold your wokeness.
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Win post from you 