General & Others Did Oda retcon the restarting your heart in G5 thing?
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No. It's obviously because one round vs an Admiral is more exhausting than all the shit Luffy went through on Onigashima 
The real answer is Plot. Luffy was meant to be down for the Saturn/Bonney drama, the same reason Kizaru was turned into a glass canon otherwise he had to kill Vegapunk and co while Luffy couldn't move.
In the future Luffy will restart his heartbeat for how many times the plot requires him too.
The real answer is Plot. Luffy was meant to be down for the Saturn/Bonney drama, the same reason Kizaru was turned into a glass canon otherwise he had to kill Vegapunk and co while Luffy couldn't move.
In the future Luffy will restart his heartbeat for how many times the plot requires him too.
No. It's obviously because one round vs an Admiral is more exhausting than all the shit Luffy went through on Onigashima
The real answer is Plot. Luffy was meant to be down for the Saturn/Bonney drama, the same reason Kizaru was turned into a glass canon otherwise he had to kill Vegapunk and co while Luffy couldn't move.
In the future Luffy will restart his heartbeat for how many times the plot requires him too.
The real answer is Plot. Luffy was meant to be down for the Saturn/Bonney drama, the same reason Kizaru was turned into a glass canon otherwise he had to kill Vegapunk and co while Luffy couldn't move.
In the future Luffy will restart his heartbeat for how many times the plot requires him too.
You got love people use plot excuses on luffy bad showing and got medal for by one piece fanbase .
but god forgid we say admiral is by plot is cope or excuse by same one piece fanbase .
Luffy say he is at his limit and need food to gain energy. It is not complicated or rocket science to understand.
Luffy use gear 5 and haki and use anything he has .
but god forgid we say admiral is by plot is cope or excuse by same one piece fanbase .
Luffy say he is at his limit and need food to gain energy. It is not complicated or rocket science to understand.
Luffy use gear 5 and haki and use anything he has .
Luffy was literally on deaths door against Kaido and managed to restart his G5, you cant look at me straight in the eye and tell me that this fight Luffy had where Kizaru didnt damage him at all and where he spent 90% of the time running after Kizaru has him in a worse state then when he literally died.
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Perhaps because Luffy sensed that the blow would leave Kizaru on the ground for a long period, there was no need to immediately restart his heart. Whether he wanted it or not, restarting his heart puts his life at risk, as Kaido even commented, 'Hey, don't go dying again.' Against Kaido, it was quite different because Kaido was literally in front of Luffy and remained standing even before Luffy completed his transformation completely...
Before that, Kaido had already stowed away his club between his shoulders, symbolizing that, for Kaido, it was over. He could have attacked Luffy at this point, but he chose to engage in idle conversation instead.
Against the kizaru, I see this as being PIS, Oda is stopping Luffy from permanently removing the kizaru, something he could easily do with a second hit, so that Lizaru's plot all sentimental with his friends can move forward, but that doesn't negate that Luffy really proved himself to be the superior here.
Before that, Kaido had already stowed away his club between his shoulders, symbolizing that, for Kaido, it was over. He could have attacked Luffy at this point, but he chose to engage in idle conversation instead.
Against the kizaru, I see this as being PIS, Oda is stopping Luffy from permanently removing the kizaru, something he could easily do with a second hit, so that Lizaru's plot all sentimental with his friends can move forward, but that doesn't negate that Luffy really proved himself to be the superior here.
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It was after the Katakuri fight... where Luffy actually ran around on his own.
Also, Oda never said Luffy could've ran on his own, he just said that had people not been there to help Luffy - he should "tough it out" on his own.
I guess Luffy's powerups being timelimited gives Oda the writing flexibility to pause & continue fights as he pleases.
Also, Oda never said Luffy could've ran on his own, he just said that had people not been there to help Luffy - he should "tough it out" on his own.
I guess Luffy's powerups being timelimited gives Oda the writing flexibility to pause & continue fights as he pleases.
It was after the Katakuri fight... where Luffy actually ran around on his own.
Also, Oda never said Luffy could've ran on his own, he just said that had people not been there to help Luffy - he should "tough it out" on his own.
Also, Oda never said Luffy could've ran on his own, he just said that had people not been there to help Luffy - he should "tough it out" on his own.
Oda's answer means, in other words, that the gladiators "run piece" in Dressrosa was unnecessary. Oda seems to put limits where he wants.
Blame on oda , not me
Same oda wrote Ussop survive 4 ton bat when he is normal human being. How heck in universe you not get killed by 4 ton bat and still run around like Ussop does ?
Didn’t damage luffy is your lie . Kizaru already damage luffy gear 5 which he already bleed on his cheek .
No kizaru didn’t run away from luffy , he came to kill vegapunk even kizaru didn’t want to do it . Literally we have panel luffy gear 5 and kizaru fighting each other .
Luffy say he is not done when battle kaido and got heart beat just fine.
Luffy need food to gain energy to move let alone attack . Were you arguing luffy est food mean luffy went 100% to battle kaido ?
This gear 5 luffy vs kizaru tell us he need food (whatever who give him food to eat), not he use heartbeat and save Bonney instead kuma.
To add your insult, Kizaru didn’t have bloody face after tooking white star gun (second strongest move from luffy ). Meanwhile kaiod bleed to base luffy punch . And kizaru is holding back as it is mention in manga.
You can cry plot , PIS but it doesn’t change result .
Same oda wrote Ussop survive 4 ton bat when he is normal human being. How heck in universe you not get killed by 4 ton bat and still run around like Ussop does ?
Didn’t damage luffy is your lie . Kizaru already damage luffy gear 5 which he already bleed on his cheek .
No kizaru didn’t run away from luffy , he came to kill vegapunk even kizaru didn’t want to do it . Literally we have panel luffy gear 5 and kizaru fighting each other .
Luffy say he is not done when battle kaido and got heart beat just fine.
Luffy need food to gain energy to move let alone attack . Were you arguing luffy est food mean luffy went 100% to battle kaido ?
This gear 5 luffy vs kizaru tell us he need food (whatever who give him food to eat), not he use heartbeat and save Bonney instead kuma.
To add your insult, Kizaru didn’t have bloody face after tooking white star gun (second strongest move from luffy ). Meanwhile kaiod bleed to base luffy punch . And kizaru is holding back as it is mention in manga.
You can cry plot , PIS but it doesn’t change result .
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It's hilarious that this is the complete opposite of what happened against Kizaru, Kaidou left Gear 5 shaking and exhausted on the ground after Ragnaroku, in EGG Luffy left Kizaru paralyzed and shaking on the ground, while Kaidou in Wano and in this scene alone he fell from exhaustion due to the accumulation of damage caused by several people, the difference is huge, and there's also the damn island, what a monster.
The wanker in me want to say that it simply proves that fighting Kizaru for like 10 minutes is simply that much more draining than an emperor for hours and getting hit hundred of times but it's realistically just plot. Oda needed Luffy to be temporarily out for max drama and Kuma's entrance to work. Ain't no way Luffy stamina in G5 is so shit in future fights
It's hilarious that this is the complete opposite of what happened against Kizaru, Kaidou left Gear 5 shaking and exhausted on the ground after Ragnaroku, in EGG Luffy left Kizaru paralyzed and shaking on the ground, while Kaidou in Wano and in this scene alone he fell from exhaustion due to the accumulation of damage caused by several people, the difference is huge, and there's also the damn island, what a monster.