Questions & Mysteries Did Oda write himself into a corner regarding black blades?

[Gaimon The Pirate]

>Oden Nitoryu is the greatest there is...
Literally Oden's words... It is time to accept that all others are weaker than Mihawk/Zoro.
All others are copium straws that keep sinking one after another.

So usop is the greatest pirate, or Croc or anyone that claims anything is real?
Is Buggy the god of the pirates?

 

[nik87]

So usop is the greatest pirate, or Croc or anyone that claims anything is real?
Is Buggy the god of the pirates?

Except, Oden Nitoryu was indeed the greatest.
Until Zoro created his Santoryu. Moot point, Gai-chin.

 

[Warine]

Except, Oden Nitoryu was indeed the greatest.
Until Zoro created his Santoryu. Moot point, Gai-chin.

What no oden was just delusional, he ain't even better than roger

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Except, Oden Nitoryu was indeed the greatest.
Until Zoro created his Santoryu. Moot point, Gai-chin.

Oden nitoryu could barely scar kaido, strongest scar-giving style.
Leave lethality to hakimen like Luffy, the ones actually defeating enemies without using magic supreme swords made in the lava of the magic mountain by a magic artisan.
Just their haki fists.

 

[Warine]

Oden nitoryu could barely scar kaido, strongest scar-giving style.
Leave lethality to hakimen like Luffy, the ones actually defeating enemies without using magic supreme swords made in the lava of the magic mountain by a magic artisan.
Just their haki fists.

Half of the top tiers are frauds if that's the case

 

[zenox]

You’re comparing people who’ve spent their life honing their skill and connection to their swords with people who treat their swords merely as weapons like Roger and Whitebeard.

roger and shanks love their swordsz

 

[kurwa]

You’re comparing people who’ve spent their life honing their skill and connection to their swords with people who treat their swords merely as weapons like Roger and Whitebeard.

Aramaki treats his sword as a tool and still achieved a black blade
meanwhile Venus every time we see him keeps jerking off his sword and yet still no black blade

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

If that is the case a supreme grade black blade is superior to a supreme grade non black blade.

This has already been confirmed

Tashigi, Mihawk and databooks all say Yoru is the strongest sword in the world… They don’t say “Among the strongest swords in the world”… they say it’s straight up stronger than all other supreme grades

So for Yoru specifically we see it’s possible to surpass other supreme grades
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You’re comparing people who’ve spent their life honing their skill and connection to their swords with people who treat their swords merely as weapons like Roger and Whitebeard.

@Sir Yasheen what about this guy whose been doing this for 800 years with this one sword, whybusnt

You guys run with your headcanon too much. No one in the manga ever said Black blades are formed from “caring about your sword”…

This is a headcanon you guys made up and then just started saying like it was fact

Zoro is gonna turn Enma black at the same time as Wado and sandai… Yet he clearly only cares about Wado and can replace all the other swords any time

 

[Sir Yasheen]

This has already been confirmed

Tashigi, Mihawk and databooks all say Yoru is the strongest sword in the world… They don’t say “Among the strongest swords in the world”… they say it’s straight up stronger than all other supreme grades

So for Yoru specifically we see it’s possible to surpass other supreme grades
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@Sir Yasheen what about this guy whose been doing this for 800 years with this one sword, whybusnt

You guys run with your headcanon too much. No one in the manga ever said Black blades are formed from “caring about your sword”…

This is a headcanon you guys made up and then just started saying like it was fact

Zoro is gonna turn Enma black at the same time as Wado and sandai… Yet he clearly only cares about Wado and can replace all the other swords any time

Easy Mihawk > Nesjuro. And we don’t know if he’ll turn all his swords black let alone at the same time.

 

[Warine]

Easy Mihawk > Nesjuro. And we don’t know if he’ll turn all his swords black let alone at the same time.

Yes we know why would he not turn all his blade black

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Yes we know why would he not turn all his blade black

So do you think if Mihawk holds any sword he can just choose to turn it into a permanently black blade?

 

[Warine]

So do you think if Mihawk holds any sword he can just choose to turn it into a permanently black blade?

No but zoro is destined to be stronger than him that's the thing

 

[Albino 👑]

Shanks and mihawk

• Shanks uses his sword
• Mihawk become one with his sword

 

[Warine]

Shanks and mihawk

• Shanks uses his sword
• Mihawk become one with his sword

No

 

[zenox]

Mihawk become one with his sword

swords arent as gifting as devil fruits buddy

 

[Sir Yasheen]

No but zoro is destined to be stronger than him that's the thing

So you think EoS Zoro can grab any sword and turn it into a permanently black blade?

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Easy Mihawk > Nesjuro. And we don’t know if he’ll turn all his swords black let alone at the same time.

Well Enma has already been set up and Wado is guaranteed so I expect the third will happen there too

I’m just saying the one on panel stated method of forging black blades is Onimaru’s statement that “ryuma forged his sword black through countless battles”

All we know is that it’s some kind of combat feat… Not a ”caring about your sword” feat

 

[Warine]

So you think EoS Zoro can grab any sword and turn it into a permanently black blade?

No but I think his 3 swords will become black blade, wado and enma are destined to become black blade so the third one will follow

 

[Foul Legacy]

So you think EoS Zoro can grab any sword and turn it into a permanently black blade?

He can.
Literwlly all of his swords are nabbed. It would take time thouggh

 

[Albino 👑]

No

Yes

Shanks having the same haki as Luffy that he uses on his sword
Mihawk having the same haki as zoro that he uses with his sword