Chapter Discussion Did Zoro only cut Kaido with Enma

Zoro proved he can trigger Asura at his own command unlike some people lacking manga knowledge were trying to infer.

He doesn't trigger it casually, the enemy must prove meritorious enough for such event to occur. Zoro needs to be pushed enough, this never occurred in that arc, even in the occasion Fuji got his hands on him, Zoro had managed to overcome his slash without relying on it hence it was not triggered.
No, Zoro doesn't only bust out Asura when his opponent is "deserving of it", tf? He uses it when his other styles can't get the job done. From that distance, none of Zoro's 1,2 or 3 Sword style attacks could get the job done against Pica, and Asura wasn't even considered in his list of possible options. You think someone as prideful as Zoro would resort to asking Orlumbus for help if he had another method of dealing with Pica at the time?
 
What do you mean what is Dressrosa Zoro? The guy who couldn't defeat Pica over a great distance. Where was Asura when he was weighing his list of options on how to go about saving Riku and the others? Nowhere to be found, because it wouldn't have made a difference when his power output from that great of a distance couldn't get the job done.
You still don't understanding how hard is to hit Pica's real body while in golem.

Zoro told King Punch that his attack would be useless because it wouldn't hurt his real body.


Even though King punch would have destroyed the golem it wouldn't have defeated Pica.
 
You still don't understanding how hard is to hit Pica's real body while in golem.

Zoro told King Punch that his attack would be useless because it wouldn't hurt his real body.


Even though King punch would have destroyed the golem it wouldn't have defeated Pica.
Elizabello isn't a Top Tier character. He has a Top Tier attack that needs an hour prep time in order to pull off. If he could pull off the King's Punch casually, and do it consecutively, then it would have been able to destroy the Golem, and then used again to take Pica out. Top Tiers can do that, Elizabello can't.
 
Elizabello isn't a Top Tier character. He has a Top Tier attack that needs an hour prep time in order to pull off. If he could pull off the King's Punch casually, and do it consecutively, then it would have been able to destroy the Golem, and then used again to take Pica out. Top Tiers can do that, Elizabello can't.
You completely missed the point that Zoro was telling us and that is destroying the golem not enough. You have to isolate him and force him out of his golem and then defeat the real body to beat him.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Would Mihawk or would he not be able to cut the Golem and take Pica out from that distance?

Would EoS Zoro, or would he not be able to cut the Golem and take Pica out from that distance?

Both Big Mom and Kaido can destroy the Golem and take Pica out from that distance.

Quit playing stupid here. Dressrosa Zoro simply wasn't strong enough to do it.
Irrelevant because you are implying that Zoro cant cut golem from that distance which is headcanon.
How would EoS Zoro take out real body from that distance?
No, neither Big Mom nor Kaido can destroy the golem from that distance and nowhere close do they come to taking out real body.
I am not playing stupid, your sense of combat is off, like always. You just granted the Emperors free feats...
 
You completely missed the point that Zoro was telling us and that is destroying the golem not enough. You have to isolate him and force him out of his golem and then defeat the real body to beat him.
If you can destroy the whole Golem in one shot and immediately follow it up with another attack of that magnitude on Pica, or spam attacks fast enough to where Pica can't reform it in time and expose his real body, then there is no issue.

Top Tiers can do that easily.
 
Irrelevant because you are implying that Zoro cant cut golem from that distance which is headcanon.
How would EoS Zoro take out real body from that distance?
No, neither Big Mom nor Kaido can destroy the golem from that distance and nowhere close do they come to taking out real body.
I am not playing stupid, your sense of combat is off, like always. You just granted the Emperors free feats...
Where is the headcannon, when 1080 Pound Phoenix at damn near point blank range couldn't completely cut the Golem in half? But let's pretend a flying slash from roughly 2+ miles away can get the job done. :okay:

Lmao, now we are going to pretend Kaido and Big Mom can't get the job done. Boro Breath that disintegrated the top of a mountain casually from a greater distance, and Big Mom who can send flying slashes across an Island and blow a hole clean through a mountain, creating a wave in the Ocean as big as the Mountain itself. :okay:
 
Yes, as of yet only Zoro's enma can damage Kaido. It has been repeatedly implied throughout the last chapters

> Zoro's santoryu attack failing to injure Kaido the first time when Enma was restrained, with Zoro wanting to unleash Enma more

> Big Mom singling out Enma's dangerosity among Zoro's blades

> Kaido wondering why Oden's presence is in the blade

> Oda drawing Zoro's enma with a different color shade than his other blades despite using haki in all of them, with Kaido pointing out once again that a strange haki is emitting from Enma

> The slash on Kaido's scales coming from Enma's blade

> After getting slash, Kaido says "i see, that must be Oden's sword" basically understanding then that getting injured makes sense since it's Oden's sword

I'm assuming that Zoro's growth during the battle shall allow him at one point to gain enough haki mastery that it would allow him to injure Kaido with all his blades though, and thus creating a different shaped scar on Kaido
Zoro does 3 sword style and it shows one cut all the time. He senses Oden sword because thats one of the sword that cuts him.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Where is the headcannon, when 1080 Pound Phoenix at damn near point blank range couldn't completely cut the Golem in half? But let's pretend a flying slash from roughly 2+ miles away can get the job done. :okay:

Lmao, now we are going to pretend Kaido and Big Mom can't get the job done. Boro Breath that disintegrated the top of a mountain casually from a greater distance, and Big Mom who can send flying slashes across an Island and blow a hole clean through a mountain, creating a wave in the Ocean as big as the Mountain itself. :okay:
You do know that 1080pHo was hakiless attack? :myman:
Later on, you have nameless attack hakified which is splitting the mountain vertically. Noticed the difference? lol
We dont have to pretend anything, cutting Pica from distance is the same as using King Punch, it doesnt knock out the real body.

We dont have to pretend anything, from what they have shown so far, we KNOW that they cannot do what you are saying they can.
Yes and can you tell between small part of hill and Pica's golem? How many Borobreaths would Kaido need to destroy golem? Eventually.
Have you noticed the diameter of Ikoku? How is a small hole in the golem going to stop golem or even real Pica's body?

Your logic is - just because they are Emperors they are all-powerful and can outdo anything others do...
 

Bogard

You can't win
Zoro does 3 sword style and it shows one cut all the time. He senses Oden sword because thats one of the sword that cuts him.
You must pay attention to the way Oda draws blood on living characters when Zoro performs his santoryu moves on them



Imo when Zoro will scar Kaido with all his blades, there will also be a shaped mark

Unlike this time where it's only Enma which injured him
 
You must pay attention to the way Oda draws blood on living characters when Zoro performs his santoryu moves on them



Imo when Zoro will scar Kaido with all his blades, there will also be a shaped mark

Unlike this time where it's only Enma which injured him
check my post only shusui cut the pacifista? the cut on pacifista is similar to this on kaido yet one slash and zoro used 3 swords
why the shield got just one slash lol :myman:
 
You do know that 1080pHo was hakiless attack? :myman:
Later on, you have nameless attack hakified which is splitting the mountain vertically. Noticed the difference? lol
We dont have to pretend anything, cutting Pica from distance is the same as using King Punch, it doesnt knock out the real body.

We dont have to pretend anything, from what they have shown so far, we KNOW that they cannot do what you are saying they can.
Yes and can you tell between small part of hill and Pica's golem? How many Borobreaths would Kaido need to destroy golem? Eventually.
Have you noticed the diameter of Ikoku? How is a small hole in the golem going to stop golem or even real Pica's body?

Your logic is - just because they are Emperors they are all-powerful and can outdo anything others do...

Boro Breath only hit the top of the mountain. If it hit Pica's golem dead center, it would blow it apart. And continuous Boro breaths would make short work of the rest. We won't even get into Dragon Twister Demolition breath, which would shred it to pieces in one fell swoop and give Pica no room to hide.

Big Mom can cut the Golem easily from that distance, it's already proven she can. We haven't even brought Zeus and Prometheus into the equation.

The Yonko's do get the benefit of the doubt, because we know what they are capable of from what we've seen them do casually. It's funny I don't see you arguing against Mihawk though when he has even less grounds to stand on, but I still think he can pull it off.... He must have slipped your mind. Lmao..... :milaugh:
 
You must pay attention to the way Oda draws blood on living characters when Zoro performs his santoryu moves on them



Imo when Zoro will scar Kaido with all his blades, there will also be a shaped mark

Unlike this time where it's only Enma which injured him
Good point with that, so its different on objects then people. I could see your way making sense too. Hopefully Zoro keeps gets atleast another 3 sword style cut in before they get destroyed in this round to compare.
 
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