Future Events Discussing Zoro next Power up (the battle between Zoro and King )
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Let's say, for the sake of argument, that only COC attacks are relevant against Kaido—which I obviously don't agree with. Now, explain to me, how Luffy with his COC attack did more damage to Kaido than Zoro with COC attack?
As for why I think Zoro did the most damage:
We know it the way Kaido reacted to the damage taken. He was evidently distressed and shocked after the attack, which is apparent from him saying, "Damn it," while holding the damaged area as he looks at it:
He was literally shivering as he says the scar will remain with him—he actually looks like a patient in the panel:
He started breathing heavily:
He was so damaged that he started bleeding from the nose just by clashing with Luffy—which happens immediately after Asura.
Note: Luffy had not landed a hit on Kaido by the time this clash happened so the blood is due to the damage he took from Asura.
As for why I think Zoro did the most damage:
We know it the way Kaido reacted to the damage taken. He was evidently distressed and shocked after the attack, which is apparent from him saying, "Damn it," while holding the damaged area as he looks at it:
He was literally shivering as he says the scar will remain with him—he actually looks like a patient in the panel:
He started breathing heavily:
He was so damaged that he started bleeding from the nose just by clashing with Luffy—which happens immediately after Asura.
Note: Luffy had not landed a hit on Kaido by the time this clash happened so the blood is due to the damage he took from Asura.
Yeah but does that count as a powerup against King? He already did that against Kaido and is only going to start doing it consciously IMO. I still think King wouldn't be able to tank that Ashura attack which scarred Kaido, where he used his Conquerors in some form.
I agree with your overall point though. EoW Zoro should be stronger than all YC1s (including Beckman) if Luffy's promise to Shanks is to be fulfilled.
I agree with your overall point though. EoW Zoro should be stronger than all YC1s (including Beckman) if Luffy's promise to Shanks is to be fulfilled.
I don't think there is any need for me to disprove something that hasn't been proved yet. You know as well as I do that Kaido wasn't just excited to fight Luffy because of how much damage he's inflicting, which throws the idea that, "Luffy did the most damage because Kaido's excited about fighting him," out of the window.
Yeah I really think King will push Kaido to at least high diff, so it is a struggle.
If Kaido can't use hybrid form, it is an extreme diff. If Kaido is limited to can only use dragon form, he loses badly.
1 other thing that favors King here is, apparently he already understands Kaido so well, includes his moves and skills. Proof is, the moment Orochi started to talk shit, King already knew what Kaido was thinking about and giving his sword without Kaido asking. It will be trouble for anyone, fighting someone that is already very familiar with your move.
So, Kaido will struggle against King alone.
If I calculate, King alone gives bigger problem than 9 scabbards combined.
P.s.
Water 7 Luffy strugglee against fucking Usopp.
Ace struggled and ultimately lost against his former subordinate, Teach.
If Kaido can't use hybrid form, it is an extreme diff. If Kaido is limited to can only use dragon form, he loses badly.
1 other thing that favors King here is, apparently he already understands Kaido so well, includes his moves and skills. Proof is, the moment Orochi started to talk shit, King already knew what Kaido was thinking about and giving his sword without Kaido asking. It will be trouble for anyone, fighting someone that is already very familiar with your move.
So, Kaido will struggle against King alone.
If I calculate, King alone gives bigger problem than 9 scabbards combined.
P.s.
Water 7 Luffy strugglee against fucking Usopp.
Ace struggled and ultimately lost against his former subordinate, Teach.
Zoro's far cry from being a top-tier, and Enma is a significant boost. He's also got fire cutting+Passive improvements from Dressrossa to Wano.
Enma training is essentially him learning to control how much Haki he imbues it with. How does that improve his haki in general? and how does that make him stronger in general?
I agree passive boost happened to him which is why I said improved version of Dressrossa Zoro.
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Enma training is essentially him learning to control how much Haki he imbues it with. How does that improve his haki in general? and how does that make him stronger in general?
I agree passive boost happened to him which is why I said improved version of Dressrossa Zoro.
We dont know how strong DR zoro was ... he never went fully out... he learned to cut fire from kinemon so we cant say for sure he didnt learn it in dressrossa or at least was allready having such techique in mind trying to develop it... dont forget DR zoro has asura too not confirmed but if its CoC atack than its stronger than adCoA haki from enma alone... not saying hes on same strenght as he is now but deff was on YC2 level after TS
While sanji was below YC and luffy YC4
If he gets real power up against king than after TS he was on par with G4 luffy
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While sanji was below YC and luffy YC4
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If he gets real power up against king than after TS he was on par with G4 luffy
He needs a power up based on?
Thats because the two Emperors arent as impressive as King when it comes to combat style.
All they are good at is "I am tough af and I swing my weapon powerfully..." Such combat style is no challenge whatsoever for someone like Zoro and that's why nothing the emperors had was a challenge for Zoro ezcept those things I mentioned - their toughness and their combined swing of the weapons which results in an island buster.
Idk why fighting a commander is lame - Kaido is fighting commanders the whole raid(Zoro aside) and several of them are giving him trouble. The whole point of my thread was to point out that commanders can give a fight to top tiers so it is no different for King vs Zoro either and note that Zoro will defeat an impressive commander in record time.
What is going to make Zoro into a top tier? What is that magical formula? Genuinely curious.
Thats because the two Emperors arent as impressive as King when it comes to combat style.
All they are good at is "I am tough af and I swing my weapon powerfully..." Such combat style is no challenge whatsoever for someone like Zoro and that's why nothing the emperors had was a challenge for Zoro ezcept those things I mentioned - their toughness and their combined swing of the weapons which results in an island buster.
Idk why fighting a commander is lame - Kaido is fighting commanders the whole raid(Zoro aside) and several of them are giving him trouble. The whole point of my thread was to point out that commanders can give a fight to top tiers so it is no different for King vs Zoro either and note that Zoro will defeat an impressive commander in record time.
What is going to make Zoro into a top tier? What is that magical formula? Genuinely curious.