Character Discussion Do you agree with the disappointment people have regarding Eustass Kid?

With the disappointment yes, he just can't ever look impressive to me even with awakening. It's also a shame he didn't any AdCoC moments against BM so far.
Still, he gets way more hate than he should. He is a nice character, just not the most impressive fighter.
 
Here is my take on it :


The worst thing about Eustass Kid isn't the character itself in the story but the fact that Oda is actually trying and thinking what he is doing is cool


that's way more scary imo , that means Oda is completely out of touch on what's "cool" to the fans ... In the story believe it or not, Kid's portrayal is positive but if you ask anyone with eyes and brain would tell you that his :


1- fighting style is complete shit, like borderline insult to the creative level oda has with other fighting style ... it is actually just walmart franky

2- his dialogue and idgf what any1 is saying ; him "believing" in luffy isnt character progression cuz we didnt see that shit , he has no reason to do that ... he should put his ego over luffy and say shit like "luffy go hold big mom , i will handle kaido" not "imma hold big mom not even defeat her , while go take the spotlight luffy sensai"
 
Here is my take on it :


The worst thing about Eustass Kid isn't the character itself in the story but the fact that Oda is actually trying and thinking what he is doing is cool


that's way more scary imo , that means Oda is completely out of touch on what's "cool" to the fans ... In the story believe it or not, Kid's portrayal is positive but if you ask anyone with eyes and brain would tell you that his :


1- fighting style is complete shit, like borderline insult to the creative level oda has with other fighting style ... it is actually just walmart franky

2- his dialogue and idgf what any1 is saying ; him "believing" in luffy isnt character progression cuz we didnt see that shit , he has no reason to do that ... he should put his ego over luffy and say shit like "luffy go hold big mom , i will handle kaido" not "imma hold big mom not even defeat her , while go take the spotlight luffy sensai"
I agree Oda thinks he's doing good things with Kid but he's not. Infact if Oda would not have put the hype on Kid "Luffy's Rival" no one from the One Piece community would have been disappointed with Kid
 
I think we overrated, we wanted him to be close to Luffy but we know we were totally wrong
I use to hold Kidd in high regard when he was introduced, but for some odd feeling(maybe bias) but Luffy and Zoro was in their own league... now we are here in Wano, the more I start to see, Oda and I was on the same wavelength. I like to shit on kid, because of his fans overating him.. I've judge him accordingly, and he continues to prove why hes call midd. His attacks lack weight against top tiers ironically, but its consistentwith character(lost one arm not named shanks), but I'm somewhat surprised tbh, thought he would show out a little more, just for debate sake, but its obvious Kidd ain't that new wb.
 
I use to hold Kidd in high regard when he was introduced, but for some odd feeling(maybe bias) but Luffy and Zoro was in their own league... now we are here in Wano, the more I start to see, Oda and I was on the same wavelength. I like to shit on kid, because of his fans overating him.. I've judge him accordingly, and he continues to prove why hes call midd. His attacks lack weight against top tiers ironically, but its consistentwith character(lost one arm not named shanks), but I'm somewhat surprised tbh, thought he would show out a little more, just for debate sake, but its obvious Kidd ain't that new wb.
I agree with you Kid don't have a good develeppoment
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
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I wouldn't say he is becoming a supporter of Luffy. He knows if Big Mom goes to the roof, it's a wrap. I still think he is gna try and snake Luffy by stealing Robin. He obviously respects Luffy's strength but he is still aint a believer like every other Luffy fanboy.

My only issue with Kid is his lack of haki, I just wish Oda focuses on that like he did with Luffy. I like Luffy but damn can his rival get a sky splitting moment and some other cool haki shit.

As for character statement, these guys stay capping half the time. Luffy said he was gna take down Jack and every one of the Yonkos but we both know that was horseshit. But to be fair to Kid, Wano still ain't over so he still could take Kaido's head.

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Oda should have focused on Kidd's CoC better in particular I think
 
Why?

You can argue endurance but durability? Especially comparing a human with someone who has partial blunt force immunity?
Isn't the whole course of events of Onigashima night a proof already?
Luffy went KO 5 times (?), the hardest hit he took was Ragnarok which isn't as lethal and destructive as Ikkoku anyway.
Kidd is not just more durable than Luffy, he's far more durable than Luffy.

Your point makes sense in theory, but Kidd straight up surpasses that partial immunity with his own body.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
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Isn't the whole course of events of Onigashima night a proof already?
Luffy went KO 5 times (?), the hardest hit he took was Ragnarok which isn't as lethal and destructive as Ikkoku anyway.
Kidd is not just more durable than Luffy, he's far more durable than Luffy.

Your point makes sense in theory, but Kidd straight up surpasses that partial immunity with his own body.
Once again, Kid endured every attack thrown at him. He didn't no sell them.
 
Along with him saying, "dammit that thing really blasted us!" and then asking Killer where they are.

He can get hurt by attacks as weak as Apoo's slashes bro. He's the same type as Zoro or Doffy in that regard - low durability but monstrous endurance.
That doesn't explain how he got through Mama Raid (defenseless) or Ikkoku tho.
Can't endure that without being exceptionally durable too.

It's not a case that Law (much less durable) took attacks like Stollen Feuer, which are more comparable to Indra. At least on panel.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
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That doesn't explain how he got through Mama Raid (defenseless) or Ikkoku tho.
Can't endure that without being exceptionally durable too.

It's not a case that Law (much less durable) took attacks like Stollen Feuer, which are more comparable to Indra.
I do think he was hurt by both Mamaraid and Ikkoku. Ikkoku is probably debatable given how he was being in Punk Rotten and that got eviscerated entirely. It's just that he has monstrous endurance which allows him to keep pushing forward despite sustaining damage.

I'm not saying he has fodder level durability, every high tier/top tier human in the series has superhuman durability given they can withstand attacks which destroy entire buildings without them losing an arm or being gravely injured. Just not exceptional durability. Exceptional endurance though, I'll give him that.
 
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