Character Discussion Do you really think Luffy's real rival is Kid?

2. Blackbeard’s rival is shanks. Blackbeard doesn’t consider luffy his rival
What did I just read

How can you claim that BB isnt luffys rival due to strength and is instead Shanks' when BB ran from Shanks during MF?

Not to mention they dont even have the same goal
Post automatically merged:

Nope, the others are not aiming at the One Piece
Only Kidd is
 
What did I just read

How can you claim that BB isnt luffys rival due to strength and is instead Shanks' when BB ran from Shanks during MF?

Not to mention they dont even have the same goal
Post automatically merged:


Law, the only one who hinted something, showed much more interest in understanding the meaning of the D. now
His OP aim was already revealed to be a bluff when was going in a suicide mission in DR, he doesn't care about PK title or One Piece
 
Law, the only one who hinted something, showed much more interest in understanding the meaning of the D. now
His OP aim was already revealed to be a bluff when was going in a suicide mission in DR, he doesn't care about PK title or One Piece
People aiming for the PK title can have bigger goals BM want to be PQ but also wants a utopia and values that over the PK title

Kaido wants his war more than PK


Yet they are still prime contenders for the PK title
 
Eustace Monk (the other pirate which inspired Kidd's name) studied "black magic" lol, is Kidd some kind of magician and I missed it? :milaugh:
Post automatically merged:

People aiming for the PK title can have bigger goals BM want to be PQ but also wants a utopia and values that over the PK title

Kaido wants his war more than PK


Yet they are still prime contenders for the PK title
So yours is basically an assumption, nothing more
 
Kidd is just another Law rolewise. He will be a yonko of the next gen for sure but the rival of Luffy for the PK title is only BB. There are also pretty good chances that by the end of the fight he will become a cheerleader of Luffy like Law in Dressrosa (or Vegeta for Goku in any relevant fight, that is how it works, and Vegeta has even way greater status in Dragonball compared to Kidd for OP).
 
People aiming for the PK title can have bigger goals BM want to be PQ but also wants a utopia and values that over the PK title

Kaido wants his war more than PK


Yet they are still prime contenders for the PK title
Luffy and Kidd are the only Supernova who have made it clear they want PK/One Piece. You are only speculating for the others and Law doesn’t care about One Piece as he is more interested in the meaning of D. Plus he was ready to die in Dresrossa, after surving Dressrosa this current Wano arc has made it clear PK isn’t his goal anymore.
 
Luffy and Kidd are the only Supernova who have made it clear they want PK/One Piece. You are only speculating for the others and Law doesn’t care about One Piece as he is more interested in the meaning of D. Plus he was ready to die in Dresrossa, after surving Dressrosa this current Wano arc has made it clear PK isn’t his goal anymore.
Luffy and Kidd are the only Supernova who have made it clear they want PK/One Piece. You are only speculating for the others and Law doesn’t care about One Piece as he is more interested in the meaning of D. Plus he was ready to die in Dresrossa, after surving Dressrosa this current Wano arc has made it clear PK isn’t his goal anymore.
 
And yet he planned to die in Dressrosa:choppawhat:
Seems to me like his goal was taking revenge on Doffy at the cost of his life. Now thanks to Luffy he was able to get his revenge and keep his life, and his new goal is finding out the meaning of D. So much for the PK goal he had. He just said that to reassure his crew. If his goal was truly to find the One Piece then he wouldn’t have been planning on dying in Dressrosa.
 
Last edited:

Seth

𝐊𝐨𝐤𝐮𝐭𝐨 𝐒𝐡𝐮𝐬𝐮𝐢
Yeah because the block lifting is DEFINITELY the only parallel Oda has drawn between Luffy and Kidd lol.
It is. What more? They Novas? There is 7 more not counting Zoro and Killer.

Kidd is last second addition on Sabaody. Parallels between them exist only in Kidd's fans headcanon.

Dude doesn't hold a candle to Luffy.
 
And yet he planned to die in Dressrosa:choppawhat:
Seems to me like his goal was taking revenge on Doffy at the cost of his life. Now thanks to Luffy he was able to get his revenge and keep his life, and his new goal is finding out the meaning of D. So much for the PK goal he had.
You can have goals beyond the PK but still be a contender
Law was talking about the Warlord position the whole time



Post TS confirmed it
Dressrosa confirmed it
His backstory confirmed it
Readers understood the fact that Law has no interest in being PK to the point that Oda made him switch to another objective in the past chapters (connected to his flashback)
He was, yes but he still mentioned his desire for the OP
 
It is. What more? They Novas? There is 7 more not counting Zoro and Killer.

Kidd is last second addition on Sabaody. Parallels between them exist only in Kidd's fans headcanon.

Dude doesn't hold a candle to Luffy.
How about the fact that:

- Luffy and Kidd are the only Supernova with conquerers haki

- Luffy and Kidd are the only Supernova captains with a Supernova vice captain

- Luffy and Kidd are the only Supernova who have expressed the dream of being PK

- They are the only Supernova who have faced multiple Yonko

- Luffy looks up to Shanks, Kidd hates Shanks

- Shanks specifically taught Luffy to ignore people who laugh at him, Kidd specifically notes that he kills people who laugh at him.

- When the Supernova were introduced Oda coincidentally made specifically only Luffy and Kidd have a bounty in the 300 millions

- Luffy has black hair and wears a red shirt, Kidd has red hair and wears a black shirt.

And there are even more. But sure all these parallels are DEFINITELY coincidental and are just “Kidd fans headcanon” lol. “The rock scene is their only parallel.” Sure buddy.
 
How about the fact that:

- Luffy and Kidd are the only Supernova with conquerers haki

- Luffy and Kidd are the only Supernova captains with a Supernova vice captain

- Luffy and Kidd are the only Supernova who have expressed the dream of being PK

- They are the only Supernova who have faced multiple Yonko

- Luffy looks up to Shanks, Kidd hates Shanks

- Shanks specifically taught Luffy to ignore people who laugh at him, Kidd specifically notes that he kills

- When the Supernova were introduced Oda coincidentally made specifically only Luffy and Kidd have a bounty in the 300 millions

- Luffy has black hair and wears a red shirt, Kidd has red hair and wears a black shirt.

And there are even more. But sure all these parallels are DEFINITELY coincidental and are just “Kidd fans headcanon” lol. “The rock scene is their only parallel.” Sure buddy.
We trippin' man :cantseeme:
 

Seth

𝐊𝐨𝐤𝐮𝐭𝐨 𝐒𝐡𝐮𝐬𝐮𝐢
How about the fact that:

- Luffy and Kidd are the only Supernova with conquerers haki

- Luffy and Kidd are the only Supernova captains with a Supernova vice captain

- Luffy and Kidd are the only Supernova who have expressed the dream of being PK

- They are the only Supernova who have faced multiple Yonko

- Luffy looks up to Shanks, Kidd hates Shanks

- Shanks specifically taught Luffy to ignore people who laugh at him, Kidd specifically notes that he kills

- When the Supernova were introduced Oda coincidentally made specifically only Luffy and Kidd have a bounty in the 300 millions

- Luffy has black hair and wears a red shirt, Kidd has red hair and wears a black shirt.

And there are even more. But sure all these parallels are DEFINITELY coincidental and are just “Kidd fans headcanon” lol. “The rock scene is their only parallel.” Sure buddy.
And at which point Luffy acnowledged Kidd as his rival? Yeah. Never. Dude doesn't care about Kidd.

You are not rivals simply because you aim for the thing every fucking scrub in the world dream of.
Post automatically merged:

We trippin' man :cantseeme:
Shitting

Kidd fans delusional af
 
And at which point Luffy acnowledged Kidd as his rival? Yeah. Never. Dude doesn't care about Kidd.

You are not rivals simply because you aim for the thing every fucking scrub in the world dream of.
Does Luffy need to come out and literally say, “Kidd you are my rival”. Is the way he acts towards Kidd not enough for you to tell that he feels competitive towards Kidd like rivals in literally every shonen do? You said the Udon rock scene was the only parallel Luffy and Kidd had and yet I just posted like ten solid and intentional parallels. If you don’t like a character fine, but don’t be delusional. Oda is very clearly telling the readers Kidd is the main rival figure of the Supernova in Luffys generation.
 

Seth

𝐊𝐨𝐤𝐮𝐭𝐨 𝐒𝐡𝐮𝐬𝐮𝐢
Does Luffy need to come out and literally say, “Kidd you are my rival”. Is the way he acts towards Kidd not enough for you to tell that he feels competitive towards Kidd like rivals in literally every shonen do? You said the Udon rock scene was the only parallel Luffy and Kidd had and yet I just posted like ten solid and intentional parallels. If you don’t like a character fine, but don’t be delusional. Oda is very clearly telling the readers Kidd is the main rival figure of the Supernova in Luffys generation.
I doubt Luffy even considers anyone for such a thing. Luffy is Luffy. Kidd being his core rival is made up by Kidd fans who starve for Kidd feats.
 
Top