Questions & Mysteries Does it count as Luffy’s win if Kizaru is still down

[Sir Yasheen]

Kizaru is only down cause he’s depressed. Def not a win for Luffy lmao

 

[terabyte]

Poor Lizaru got overshadowed by 6 characters in 1 arc and got pizza diffed in 2 vs 1

I don't get how Kizaru stans can look at him getting "sneaked" by giant Luffy, pancaked and then tossed away in a 2v1 and then think he didn't lose lol. The excuses for Kizaru will never end, and that's only because he fought the guy everybody downplays.
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Kizaru is only down cause he’s depressed. Def not a win for Luffy lmao

Exhibit A

 

[JoNdule]

He can't get up and fight anymore
He lost, dont care about emotional excuses

Move on, Kizaru couldn't even dominate 2v1 clash

 

[zenox]

oda has done a really really bad job with fightings in egghead
u cant even say who won against who anymore

the fights are half-assed

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I don't get how Kizaru stans can look at him getting "sneaked" by giant Luffy, pancaked and then tossed away in a 2v1 and then think he didn't lose lol. The excuses for Kizaru will never end, and that's only because he fought the guy everybody downplays.
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Exhibit A

How is it an excuse if the only reason Kizarus laying down is because he killed Vegapunk…

 

[SkySanji]

Luffy won

 

[terabyte]

Imagine if Shanks or Kaido did the exact same thing Luffy did with Kizaru still being depressed and all, no one would question Kizaru's loss then

 

[SkySanji]

Imagine if Shanks or Kaido did the exact same thing Luffy did with Kizaru still being depressed and all, no one would question Kizaru's loss then

100%, Luffy gets downplayed so much

 

[Dragon777]

Confirmed Kizaru was down only because emotions.

Well, It was already plenty clear.

 

[terabyte]

How is it an excuse if the only reason Kizarus laying down is because he killed Vegapunk…

Who told you it's the only reason? We saw him on the ground for multiple chapters earlier because of WSG, so what makes you think Luffy was so weak that he did virtually nothing and only Kizaru's depression is keeping him down?

 

[Punishhh]

Kizaru needs to see a therapist. We need a cover story about that.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Who told you it's the only reason? We saw him on the ground for multiple chapters earlier because of WSG, so what makes you think Luffy was so weak that he did virtually nothing and only Kizaru's depression is keeping him down?

Because Kizaru is fully conscious and he doesn’t think anyone can treat this deep wound and just wants to rest.

None of that is Luffy lmao. And how is saying Luffy didn’t beat Kizaru me calling him weak?

 

[terabyte]

Because Kizaru is fully conscious and he doesn’t think anyone can treat this deep wound and just wants to rest.

None of that is Luffy lmao. And how is saying Luffy didn’t beat Kizaru me calling him weak?

A loss is a loss, even something like BM being pushed out of Onigashima. It's even more embarrassing for Kizaru, because he got flattened while Luffy also had to deal with Saturn at the same time.

Kizaru brought this depression upon himself, he had every opportunity to not chase after Vegapunk and occupy himself with Luffy as a potential alternative. No excuses for him.

 

[Dragon777]

Kizaru needs to see a therapist. We need a cover story about that.

Btw, I think he will flip and then die. Now I have no doubts anymore.

 

[HA001]

Btw, I think he will flip and then die. Now I have no doubts anymore.

Nah he's done for the arc.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

A loss is a loss, even something like BM being pushed out of Onigashima. It's even more embarrassing for Kizaru, because he got flattened while Luffy also had to deal with Saturn at the same time.

Kizaru brought this depression upon himself, he had every opportunity to not chase after Vegapunk and occupy himself with Luffy as a potential alternative. No excuses for him.

So you agree Kizaru is only down because he himself killed Vegapunk? That’s the fucking point….

 

[Punishhh]

Btw, I think he will flip and then die. Now I have no doubts anymore.

I think so too, i don't see any other exit for his character.

 

[Dragon777]

Nah he's done for the arc.

I think what Vegapunk said about Marines to Dragon was pretty telling.

Honestly, I think this whole arc prepares Kizaru's flip, and then sacrifice.

 

[terabyte]

So you agree Kizaru is only down because he himself killed Vegapunk? That’s the fucking point….

No dumbass, I'm saying both Luffy flattening Kizaru and his own mental turmoil are keeping him down.

 

[dalbajobas]

it counts as much as preTS Luffy beating Garp

Goofy is pretty pathetic. Kizaru is hurt by emotions more than his pillow punches