Character Discussion Does Kizaru have CoC?

CoC?

  • Yes

    Votes: 13 27.1%
  • No

    Votes: 35 72.9%

  • Total voters
    48
  • Poll closed .
#43
Kizaru is literally the opposite of ambition, let alone that kind of ambition of rising to the top. He probably became admiral by accident since he's powerful by nature and got fed an op ass df
 
#44
I doubt he has it. He is probably an awakened light user, on top of having great armament. That is enough for being solid top tier, albeit of course falling behind the greatest CoC users. I also agree it would be nice to have strong people without CoC around. Given Akainu and Aokiji most likely had awakening too (Punk Hazard), it would make sense for Kizaru to have it.
 
#45
Nah that's too many tiers within top tier. Kuzan went 10 days with Akainu, and Kizaru isn't portrayed any weaker. So the high top tier-mid top tier agenda falls apart.

Not to mention there is very likely a bigger gap between Akainu and Big Mom than Akainu and Kuzan.
I think Akainu probably got a PU to win that fight. Either that or Oda will also separate Kuzan from the pack. There’s no way Ryokugyu is equal to Akainu when he is literally fanboying over him
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#47
I think Akainu probably got a PU to win that fight. Either that or Oda will also separate Kuzan from the pack. There’s no way Ryokugyu is equal to Akainu when he is literally fanboying over him
Why does Greenbull have to be equal to Akainu?

All we know is the C3 are very closely knit through Kuzan vs Akainu and Marineford, this doesn't apply to the new Admirals. Obviously Greenbull was super impressive and he already proved why he's a top tier by mowing throw high tiers singlehandedly a feat no "low top tier" could dream of. But at the same time that doesn't mean equality, not to mention matchups might play a role in bringing the difficulty down further.
 
#49
I argued for years on zoro having it one day simply off of rayleighs words: most people who’ve made a name for themselves in this world possess this power, don chin jao: there are countless souls on the sea ahead with the QUALITY OF A KING THAT TITLE IS DECIDED BY THEM, Robin called them the ultimate military force… I lean towards them having it especially with there reaction to him using it in marine ford, and with them having made a name for themselves already it just seems like Oda will give them. Oda has also established that haki is above df so far there’s no df in story that can contend with adv coc use heck just look at the worlds strongest man and rogers clash he didn’t even use his fruit just all haki 😂
 
#50
Why does Greenbull have to be equal to Akainu?

All we know is the C3 are very closely knit through Kuzan vs Akainu and Marineford, this doesn't apply to the new Admirals. Obviously Greenbull was super impressive and he already proved why he's a top tier by mowing throw high tiers singlehandedly a feat no "low top tier" could dream of. But at the same time that doesn't mean equality, not to mention matchups might play a role in bringing the difficulty down further.
So do you think Fuji and Ryo are a level below the OG 3?

If Luffy fights and beats Kizaru at Egghead, Sakazuki HAS to be a level above Kizaru if you think Luffy’s gonna beat him later on in the story. Even if Kizaru doesn’t fight and lose to Luffy at Egghead, he will still have to be a level below Sakazuki if Luffy ends up fighting Sakazuki since Kizaru will have to be matched with either Zoro, Sanji, or someone else definitively below Luffy. Fleet Admiral Sakazuki being >~ Admirals just doesn’t make sense from a narrative standpoint
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#55
So do you think Fuji and Ryo are a level below the OG 3?

If Luffy fights and beats Kizaru at Egghead, Sakazuki HAS to be a level above Kizaru if you think Luffy’s gonna beat him later on in the story. Even if Kizaru doesn’t fight and lose to Luffy at Egghead, he will still have to be a level below Sakazuki if Luffy ends up fighting Sakazuki since Kizaru will have to be matched with either Zoro, Sanji, or someone else definitively below Luffy. Fleet Admiral Sakazuki being >~ Admirals just doesn’t make sense from a narrative standpoint
Idk what's going to happen I'm only commenting on what we know. If Kizaru is defeated here and Luffy struggles against Akainu later it means there is a substantial gap, which based on what we know shouldn't be the case.

Based on my scale either Luffy doesn't defeat Kizaru here cleanly, or Akainu is not for him to defeat later. If Aokiji vs Akainu didn't happen I would be more open to Akainu standing alone.
 
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