General & Others Doflamingo is the best written villain in all manga and this is why
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Croco boy has major trust issues, but I think he somehow overcame them after his fight with Luffy and realizing how Luffy will go to the ends of hell to protect his nakama. I don't remember but in Marinford didn't he say something along the lines, you gotta protect the ones you want to protect". Then also the way he appears in Roger's flashback, his secret that Ivankov knows. Him going for Whitebeard's head and wanting to become powerful enough by obtaining the pluton so that no one can touch him. There are too many loose ends connected to Croco's character. Hope Oda will reveal later what's his deal is.
Doffy knows no fear. It was just his reaction. Doffy is pure evil and always has a plan under his sleave, aka, Joker. Kaido is indeed troublesome, but Doffy will never run a battle once he on to it, if his plans are other things he will pass, but not run.
Doflamingo is a seinen villain in a shonen manga.
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I agree that Doffy is the best in op. I expect Teach to surpass him, but for now Doffy is the most complete. The struggles that he’s been through, his overestimation of Luffy and even his fear of Kaido humanize him.
He’s nowhere near the strongest, nor is he anywhere near the most powerful politically, but he plays every hand that he’s dealt brilliantly, and finds leverage wherever he can, allowing him to have an exceptional level of influence in both the pirate world and in the WG.
The major area he falls flat is him lacking a clear endgame. He wants to create and profit from chaos. He claims that he aims to topple the celestial dragons, but this seems unrealistic, especially for someone who preaches realism and practicality so much,
I can only speak to manga I’ve read, and imo pain/nagato is a joke not even in the same ballpark.
Pariston is arguably more entertaining to see in action, but he’s too in control; wins even when he loses and seems to always be 10 steps ahead of everyone. Light sort of fits into this bucket as well. Imho a great villain also needs to exhibit real weaknesses and struggles of their own.
Mereum never resonated with me. One expects a lot to be possible when you’re a super creature.
He’s nowhere near the strongest, nor is he anywhere near the most powerful politically, but he plays every hand that he’s dealt brilliantly, and finds leverage wherever he can, allowing him to have an exceptional level of influence in both the pirate world and in the WG.
The major area he falls flat is him lacking a clear endgame. He wants to create and profit from chaos. He claims that he aims to topple the celestial dragons, but this seems unrealistic, especially for someone who preaches realism and practicality so much,
I can only speak to manga I’ve read, and imo pain/nagato is a joke not even in the same ballpark.
Pariston is arguably more entertaining to see in action, but he’s too in control; wins even when he loses and seems to always be 10 steps ahead of everyone. Light sort of fits into this bucket as well. Imho a great villain also needs to exhibit real weaknesses and struggles of their own.
Mereum never resonated with me. One expects a lot to be possible when you’re a super creature.
Doflamingo's plan are long term plans , he will took his time and even if he didn’t achieve it , not a problem, it fits the theme of one piece , chasing you dreams , you don’t have to accomplish it , doffy knows that the celestial dragons will be taken down anyway
I hope that Oda have plans for him
How lol , away from his writing,
Doflamingo’s vein popping makes him iconic 😂
Compared to crocodile, he has done greater and cooler things
I hope that Oda have plans for him
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How lol , away from his writing,
Doflamingo’s vein popping makes him iconic 😂
Compared to crocodile, he has done greater and cooler things
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Sure, he taking over a nation in 1 night was cool.
Imagine you sleep in the night as usual, not knowing what's gonna happen tomorrow, then by the time you wake up: voila! A new president. And the old president is now a villain.
Him taking over a nation in just 1 night is crazy.
But "best villain in all manga"? Nope.
Again,
1. He talked "won't underestimate Luffy like previous villains" yet all bullshit. Set a trap for Luffy with Mera Mera no Mi which then backfired (this one is not entirely Doffy's mistake though, who would have thought Sabo would appear?).
Then laughed at Boundman appearance, only to get ragdolled.
2. Shit his pants just to hype Kaido.
3. Threat level wise, imo his threat level wasn't even comparable to Crocodile's.
This is what Crocodile did to Luffy
Luffy who was seemingly invincible from the beginning of series until Alabasta, suddenly got defeated by Crocodile, two times in a row.
While Doffy, not only Oda showed him chickened out against Aokiji just moment before Dressrosa (sure it is Aokiji out of all people but still), then shitted his pants thinking about Kaido. Then in his arc, everybody knows there is greater danger than Doflamingo. The sleeping tiger Fujitora. Sabo was also arguably stronger than Doffy the arc villain. So threat level, Crocodile was bigger, he was untouchable monster in Alabasta arc, never shitted his pants in Alabastas. While Doffy shitted pants and we know there are stronger characters than him in his own arc.
Imagine you sleep in the night as usual, not knowing what's gonna happen tomorrow, then by the time you wake up: voila! A new president. And the old president is now a villain.
Him taking over a nation in just 1 night is crazy.
But "best villain in all manga"? Nope.
Again,
1. He talked "won't underestimate Luffy like previous villains" yet all bullshit. Set a trap for Luffy with Mera Mera no Mi which then backfired (this one is not entirely Doffy's mistake though, who would have thought Sabo would appear?).
Then laughed at Boundman appearance, only to get ragdolled.
2. Shit his pants just to hype Kaido.
3. Threat level wise, imo his threat level wasn't even comparable to Crocodile's.
This is what Crocodile did to Luffy
Luffy who was seemingly invincible from the beginning of series until Alabasta, suddenly got defeated by Crocodile, two times in a row.
While Doffy, not only Oda showed him chickened out against Aokiji just moment before Dressrosa (sure it is Aokiji out of all people but still), then shitted his pants thinking about Kaido. Then in his arc, everybody knows there is greater danger than Doflamingo. The sleeping tiger Fujitora. Sabo was also arguably stronger than Doffy the arc villain. So threat level, Crocodile was bigger, he was untouchable monster in Alabasta arc, never shitted his pants in Alabastas. While Doffy shitted pants and we know there are stronger characters than him in his own arc.