This one is probably going to catch me L's pretty quickly lol, but frankly its something I wanted to talk about and the theories section is too dead imo for good dicussion.
Anyway, this sort of came up with a convo @Sir Yasheen and I were having a few days ago about what Emerald City is and where it may exist (i.e. maybe above Elbaf, though Ive explained that Emerald city was just a poor mans translation of Shandora). Theres tons of ideas out there that highlight the possible connection between Elbaf (the island), its tree, and to the sky/sky islands, but I wanted to highlight a few things that may genuinely support the idea and why I think that:
1. Elbaf is a physical, self proclaimed God
2. This person resides on a sky island kingdom above Elbaf
3. This person may be Lunarian
4. This person may be Elbaf's major villain
1. Elbaf, the God:
For years we've heard and wondered about Elbaf the island, which is also named after their Giant's fabled god of war, Elbaf. We know its clearly based on Norse mythology, stemming the Viking motif of its warriors to "Prince Loki" and its great tree (obviously a reference to Yggdrasil).
Now Im not sure how deep the "Norse" rabbit hole is meant to go, either meaning that Elbaf is a direct reference to Tyr as the God of War or maybe just Odin, but I do have a pretty firm belief that "Gods" in One Piece are all physical, not spiritual in nature.
Outside of Nika (who is a physical DF god), Elbaf is the only other named God in the series. Yes, you have the 4 unnamed deities from Shandora, but not relevent to the current discussion imo yet. It is leads me to believe, that like with every named or referenced character in this series, they will eventually show up in some physical capacity.
I.e. Elbaf is real.
2. Elbaf lives in a "realm" above the Giants
This is where the tree comes into play. It would almost be criminal of Oda to not capitalize on Elbaf's tree and its potential connections to other locations. BMs flashback suggests its size is so massive that its branches go beyond the horizon in some cases. Even the safest bet is just that its height clearly is taller than anything we've seen. It would lend credence to something being up there, consolidering this is an adventure series.
Now Im suggesting that Elbaf, a real being, must reside somewhere. And "Gods" tend to reside above their people. Hence a sky island. Also, its interesting that Oda has saved Urouge for last....
3. Elbaf is a Lunarian.
Now heres the big stretch, but its always fascinated me that Oda introduced King when he did and also had BM comment on the species she doesnt have as part of her family, him included. Obviously the Lunarian role is coming, and is far more important than just adding genes to Serephim. Who were they? Why/how were they booted off of the now Mariejois?
Most importantly, why did Whitebeard refer to them as the "Gods" and their "Kingdom of Gods" to Marco? If they were kicked out, where did they go? How did the WG get rid of them? The interesting part is, this happened hundreds of years ago, so if there are surviving Lunarians, its not impossible for them to be looked at as deities to Elbaf. Note that Alber is 47 and still looks like a young man, so who knows how old Lunarians can get.
Also Alber (アルベル) and Elbaf (エルバフ) do sound somewhat similar if you want to theorize they are solely lunarian style names lol (again, huge stretch).
4. Elbaf, the villain.
Honestly, ever since Little Garden, the idea of Elbaf being "good" for the warriors of Elbaf has always seemed a bit much. Considering the series' themes about peace/freedom/etc, it'd be pretty uncanny for Elbaf to not have negatively influenced the giants in some way when it comes the way they fight for their God. Luffy even had a problem with this back at Little Garden.
Im sure somehow this will cycle to the arc, Usopp's bravery, and more, regardless of what Elbaf actually is or not. Hell, considering how WB talked about Lunarians, this may be the Lurking Legend? Lol
Tldr: Elbaf is a major one piece villain, who resides above Elbaf the Island and is a booted ancient Lunarian "God" from Red Line. Maybe he's the Lurking Legend
Have at it, roast me folks
Edit: Note that after this post, I came to the realization that Emerald City is just a poor translation for Shandora, City of Gold. But the point of the thread still stands.
Anyway, this sort of came up with a convo @Sir Yasheen and I were having a few days ago about what Emerald City is and where it may exist (i.e. maybe above Elbaf, though Ive explained that Emerald city was just a poor mans translation of Shandora). Theres tons of ideas out there that highlight the possible connection between Elbaf (the island), its tree, and to the sky/sky islands, but I wanted to highlight a few things that may genuinely support the idea and why I think that:
1. Elbaf is a physical, self proclaimed God
2. This person resides on a sky island kingdom above Elbaf
3. This person may be Lunarian
4. This person may be Elbaf's major villain
1. Elbaf, the God:
For years we've heard and wondered about Elbaf the island, which is also named after their Giant's fabled god of war, Elbaf. We know its clearly based on Norse mythology, stemming the Viking motif of its warriors to "Prince Loki" and its great tree (obviously a reference to Yggdrasil).
Now Im not sure how deep the "Norse" rabbit hole is meant to go, either meaning that Elbaf is a direct reference to Tyr as the God of War or maybe just Odin, but I do have a pretty firm belief that "Gods" in One Piece are all physical, not spiritual in nature.
Outside of Nika (who is a physical DF god), Elbaf is the only other named God in the series. Yes, you have the 4 unnamed deities from Shandora, but not relevent to the current discussion imo yet. It is leads me to believe, that like with every named or referenced character in this series, they will eventually show up in some physical capacity.
I.e. Elbaf is real.
2. Elbaf lives in a "realm" above the Giants
This is where the tree comes into play. It would almost be criminal of Oda to not capitalize on Elbaf's tree and its potential connections to other locations. BMs flashback suggests its size is so massive that its branches go beyond the horizon in some cases. Even the safest bet is just that its height clearly is taller than anything we've seen. It would lend credence to something being up there, consolidering this is an adventure series.
Now Im suggesting that Elbaf, a real being, must reside somewhere. And "Gods" tend to reside above their people. Hence a sky island. Also, its interesting that Oda has saved Urouge for last....
3. Elbaf is a Lunarian.
Now heres the big stretch, but its always fascinated me that Oda introduced King when he did and also had BM comment on the species she doesnt have as part of her family, him included. Obviously the Lunarian role is coming, and is far more important than just adding genes to Serephim. Who were they? Why/how were they booted off of the now Mariejois?
Most importantly, why did Whitebeard refer to them as the "Gods" and their "Kingdom of Gods" to Marco? If they were kicked out, where did they go? How did the WG get rid of them? The interesting part is, this happened hundreds of years ago, so if there are surviving Lunarians, its not impossible for them to be looked at as deities to Elbaf. Note that Alber is 47 and still looks like a young man, so who knows how old Lunarians can get.
Also Alber (アルベル) and Elbaf (エルバフ) do sound somewhat similar if you want to theorize they are solely lunarian style names lol (again, huge stretch).
4. Elbaf, the villain.
Honestly, ever since Little Garden, the idea of Elbaf being "good" for the warriors of Elbaf has always seemed a bit much. Considering the series' themes about peace/freedom/etc, it'd be pretty uncanny for Elbaf to not have negatively influenced the giants in some way when it comes the way they fight for their God. Luffy even had a problem with this back at Little Garden.
Im sure somehow this will cycle to the arc, Usopp's bravery, and more, regardless of what Elbaf actually is or not. Hell, considering how WB talked about Lunarians, this may be the Lurking Legend? Lol
Tldr: Elbaf is a major one piece villain, who resides above Elbaf the Island and is a booted ancient Lunarian "God" from Red Line. Maybe he's the Lurking Legend
Have at it, roast me folks
Edit: Note that after this post, I came to the realization that Emerald City is just a poor translation for Shandora, City of Gold. But the point of the thread still stands.
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