Powers & Abilities Enma is just a training wheel.
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The real power up has yet to come with Zoro, something I’ve seen being pushed to the backburner and not much people talking about this .....is Zoro learning to cut fire Which has been foreshadowed multiple times:
Unexplained scene where Zoro uses his one and only fire based attack with no flames around him to utilize.
Utilizes the fire around him to cut Mr 5 with a fire based attack and then goes on to say:
Unexplained scene where Zoro uses his one and only fire based attack with no flames around him to utilize.
Utilizes the fire around him to cut Mr 5 with a fire based attack and then goes on to say:
The "fire sword" statement in that one panel was a wonky translation.
But the rest do show Zoro being interested in fire swords.
Zoro replies him with " only if your haki is stronger than mine"
Quality represents strength. Zoro's haki was stronger than Pica's which was why he cut him. You will notice in that same panel , Pica is using haki all over is body (quantity) which is more than Zoro who was using it on his swords only. But he still managed to get through Pica's haki because his haki was stronger.
The quality concept here is being applied wrongly. Katakuri and Luffy were both using the same technique (hardening) but Katakuri's was stronger (harder) which is why Luffy was hurting. It didn't mean that Katakuri was using more haki just that his was stronger.
Note that I'm not saying that it is impossible for there to be different pools, just that there has been no mention of such.
Quality represents strength. Zoro's haki was stronger than Pica's which was why he cut him. You will notice in that same panel , Pica is using haki all over is body (quantity) which is more than Zoro who was using it on his swords only. But he still managed to get through Pica's haki because his haki was stronger.
The quality concept here is being applied wrongly. Katakuri and Luffy were both using the same technique (hardening) but Katakuri's was stronger (harder) which is why Luffy was hurting. It didn't mean that Katakuri was using more haki just that his was stronger.
Note that I'm not saying that it is impossible for there to be different pools, just that there has been no mention of such.
The real power up has yet to come with Zoro, something I’ve seen being pushed to the backburner and not much people talking about this .....is Zoro learning to cut fire Which has been foreshadowed multiple times:
Unexplained scene where Zoro uses his one and only fire based attack with no flames around him to utilize.
Utilizes the fire around him to cut Mr 5 with a fire based attack and then goes on to say:
Unexplained scene where Zoro uses his one and only fire based attack with no flames around him to utilize.
Utilizes the fire around him to cut Mr 5 with a fire based attack and then goes on to say:
I mean fire cutting will only be useful against fire users and then nobody else.
I always thought of zoro cutting fire as an increase in skill which will be useful in certain situations and not as a powerup.We know kinemon can cut fire yet he is weaker than zoro,so the only powerup zoro needs to be a top tier swordsman is an increase in coo and higher coa to achieve a black blade.
He may also need an increase in his movement speed to be able to cut anybody in an instant(shunshin style) just as the GREAT RYUUMA
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Tbh i don't even know how cutting fire is supposed to be a power up for zoro
I mean fire cutting will only be useful against fire users and then nobody else.
I always thought of zoro cutting fire as an increase in skill which will be useful in certain situations and not as a powerup.We know kinemon can cut fire yet he is weaker than zoro,so the only powerup zoro needs to be a top tier swordsman is an increase in coo and higher coa to achieve a black blade.
He may also need an increase in his movement speed to be able to cut anybody in an instant(shunshin style) just as the GREAT RYUUMA
I mean fire cutting will only be useful against fire users and then nobody else.
I always thought of zoro cutting fire as an increase in skill which will be useful in certain situations and not as a powerup.We know kinemon can cut fire yet he is weaker than zoro,so the only powerup zoro needs to be a top tier swordsman is an increase in coo and higher coa to achieve a black blade.
He may also need an increase in his movement speed to be able to cut anybody in an instant(shunshin style) just as the GREAT RYUUMA
Zoro always creates "NEW TECHNIQUES". In Alabasta, he created Shishi sonson to cut Daz. But he also received a "POWER UP" by unlocking the breath of all things to cut steel. Then in Skypiea he was "TRAINING" his breath of all things "POWER UP" to use it better and he did by using it with a "NEW TECHNIQUE" called 108 pound canon to Cut Steel with the breath of all things but now using an air slash.
A "POWER UP" is an immediate shift in base stats like Zoro moves from random fodder swords to Sandai kitetsu and Yubashiri which increase his durability and AP due to their quality. Same with Breath of all things, Zoro moved from not being able to cut steel to cutting steel immediately so that's "POWER UP". Stuff like unlocking a new set of power like unlocking haki is a "POWER UP". Even a new mode is a "POWER UP" like 9 sword Asura mode
"TRAINING" is actually mastering those base stats to improve them. Zoro trains to get used to Yubashiri being light and Sandai Kitetsu cutting shit he doesn't want to cut. Zoro is now "TRAINING" to tame Enma which will improve on the haki he already has.
Notice Enma and Shusui are the same grade of sword so this is no longer an immediate increase in Base stats so it's NOT a "POWER UP"
"NEW TECHNIQUES" are new Configurations of existing powers and stats. Zoro is already able to cut Steel since Alabasta and create gusts of air since Arlong Park so he reconfigures the two powers to cut Steel with air slashes to create a "NEW TECHNIQUE" called 108 pound canon.
Therefore The ability to cut fire, if it's not something based on reconfiguring Zoro’s existing base stats like a "NEW TECHNIQUE" and is not an extension of an existing power through "TRAINING" means that all that's left is that cutting fire is a "POWER UP"
@Jo_Ndule in case you were still confused
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i doubt that fire swords exists , i think it just the usage of riyu or haki generate flames
like Luffy can generate flames and lighting around his fist while using red hawk and thor elephant gun
Kaido generated lightning , Sabo and Dragon generate wind .
Kinemon used fox-fire style to describe his swordsmanship he didn't state that he has fire swords so i think Zoro will be able to generate fires with his swords he was able to do as well against Riyuma to ignited his wound in blue fire that if the anime is right .
so i expect him to learn how to uses fire in his fight against King since King has always fire around him and i think he uses fire while fighting with sword.
like Luffy can generate flames and lighting around his fist while using red hawk and thor elephant gun
Kaido generated lightning , Sabo and Dragon generate wind .
Kinemon used fox-fire style to describe his swordsmanship he didn't state that he has fire swords so i think Zoro will be able to generate fires with his swords he was able to do as well against Riyuma to ignited his wound in blue fire that if the anime is right .
so i expect him to learn how to uses fire in his fight against King since King has always fire around him and i think he uses fire while fighting with sword.
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