Character Discussion EoS Zoro will NOT surpass or be comparable to Ryuma
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*I* didn´t say anything was impossible, I posted a panel of what the characters at the top of the government believe, that they shouldn´t invade Wano because the borders were closed lol.
Also, the people in Wano think Ryuma is world famous to not only world nobles, but also pirates. That doesnt seem true at all
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Also, the people in Wano think Ryuma is world famous to not only world nobles, but also pirates. That doesnt seem true at all
You won't accept the Ryuma-Zoro parallel because you don't believe Zoro will reach his level, but Oda intends to make Zoro the greatest swordsman ever. This is what he said in 2023:
Joyboy with fleet of allies who rallied behind him couldn’t beat a solo Imu as shown in the Harley text compared to Ryuma’s insane feat that gave WG generational trauma.
So, I have a pretty good idea how it’s going to turn out since i’m a believer Straw Hats will team up with the Revos and Cross Guild against WG ala Impel Down and Marineford style again.
Zoro will surpass Ryuma where he will take down Imu entirely rather than driving him away from a country.
So, I have a pretty good idea how it’s going to turn out since i’m a believer Straw Hats will team up with the Revos and Cross Guild against WG ala Impel Down and Marineford style again.
Zoro will surpass Ryuma where he will take down Imu entirely rather than driving him away from a country.
Joyboy with fleet of allies who rallied behind him couldn’t beat a solo Imu as shown in the Harley text.
So, I have a pretty good idea how it’s going to turn out since i’m a believer Straw Hats will team up with the Revos and Cross Guild against WG ala Impel Down and Marineford style again.
Zoro will surpass Ryuma where he will take down Imu entirely rather than driving him away from a country.
So, I have a pretty good idea how it’s going to turn out since i’m a believer Straw Hats will team up with the Revos and Cross Guild against WG ala Impel Down and Marineford style again.
Zoro will surpass Ryuma where he will take down Imu entirely rather than driving him away from a country.
I thought Zkk was bad, but Zoro killing Imu is really next level
Imu isn’t counted as party of the WG… for whatever reason Imu is completely aversed actually doing shit himself, at best he uses demonic possession
Joyboy lost to Imu and Imu’s men. Ryuma kept Imu’s men out of Wano
Zoro will not be above Ryuma… it’s arguable Roger wasn’t above Ryuma either
We saw Kaido’s top 5. These are the people Kaido has fought… clearly this man has never come across any Gorosei or Hody knights
werent you here when that chapter of Oda comparing Luffy to Ryuma came out? Don’t you remember how extremely angry us Zoro fans were?
but I guess to you, being a Zoro fan is ignoring the story for a Zoro agenda and being a Luffy fan is just accepting that Oda himself cucked Zoro in his own arc
we were already told that Zoro has a similar fighting style to Ryuma since the Shimotsuki have a similar fighting style passed down from Ryuma… But see having a similar fighting style is fine… Being the savior of the country is more important… Zoro also looks like Ryuma, but no one in Wano gave a fuck compared to Luffy saving the country
i didnt say I don’t accept Ryuma and Zoro have visual similarities and similar fighting styles… I said BEING THE SAVIOR OF WANO OUTSCALES looking similar to Ryuma.
This is like how Oden had similarities to Zoro as well if you remember but I bet you don’t even remember them because really only Oden’s similarities to Luffy matter since they were the major ones
also, musashi isn’t Ryuma, that quote isn’t Oda saying “Zoro will surpass Ryuma”…
Zoro won’t surpass Ryuma both because Ryuma is a Luffy a parallel in terms of power and importance and also Ryuma’s big feats are TOO MUCH FOR ZORO.
I want to emphasize that last point, Ryuma keeping the entire WG out of Wano severely outscales anything Zoro will be capable of… Zoro will not be able to fend off all 5 Gorosei, all the holy knights, all the grunt armies and CP-0 together… Think about this, all the five Gorosei include Nusjuro, all the knights include Shamrock… Zoro won’t be the kind of monster who can fight Nusjuro, Shamrock and 12 other characters together and SEND THEM PACKING… that’s a EoS Luffy level feat, and Zoro is not Luffy’s equal
The pirates who also tried to enter Wano are all dead now either because of Ryuma or Old age… the WG is the only group worth talking about because they are made up of fucking immortals and Imu is the source of all their power from the time of Ryuma to now
Ryuma singlehandedly fought off the WG and this feat is what gets compared to Joyboy and this feat is what Zoro will never be able to replicate
Joyboy lost to Imu and Imu’s men. Ryuma kept Imu’s men out of Wano
Zoro will not be above Ryuma… it’s arguable Roger wasn’t above Ryuma either
We saw Kaido’s top 5. These are the people Kaido has fought… clearly this man has never come across any Gorosei or Hody knights
werent you here when that chapter of Oda comparing Luffy to Ryuma came out? Don’t you remember how extremely angry us Zoro fans were?
but I guess to you, being a Zoro fan is ignoring the story for a Zoro agenda and being a Luffy fan is just accepting that Oda himself cucked Zoro in his own arc
we were already told that Zoro has a similar fighting style to Ryuma since the Shimotsuki have a similar fighting style passed down from Ryuma… But see having a similar fighting style is fine… Being the savior of the country is more important… Zoro also looks like Ryuma, but no one in Wano gave a fuck compared to Luffy saving the country
You won't accept the Ryuma-Zoro parallel because you don't believe Zoro will reach his level, but Oda intends to make Zoro the greatest swordsman ever. This is what he said in 2023:
This is like how Oden had similarities to Zoro as well if you remember but I bet you don’t even remember them because really only Oden’s similarities to Luffy matter since they were the major ones
also, musashi isn’t Ryuma, that quote isn’t Oda saying “Zoro will surpass Ryuma”…
Zoro won’t surpass Ryuma both because Ryuma is a Luffy a parallel in terms of power and importance and also Ryuma’s big feats are TOO MUCH FOR ZORO.
I want to emphasize that last point, Ryuma keeping the entire WG out of Wano severely outscales anything Zoro will be capable of… Zoro will not be able to fend off all 5 Gorosei, all the holy knights, all the grunt armies and CP-0 together… Think about this, all the five Gorosei include Nusjuro, all the knights include Shamrock… Zoro won’t be the kind of monster who can fight Nusjuro, Shamrock and 12 other characters together and SEND THEM PACKING… that’s a EoS Luffy level feat, and Zoro is not Luffy’s equal
The pirates who also tried to enter Wano are all dead now either because of Ryuma or Old age… the WG is the only group worth talking about because they are made up of fucking immortals and Imu is the source of all their power from the time of Ryuma to now
Ryuma singlehandedly fought off the WG and this feat is what gets compared to Joyboy and this feat is what Zoro will never be able to replicate
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Ryuma "soloing" the WG is a insane headcanon. Not only was the joyboy comparasion in context to defeat kaido from a wano ricefarmer who didnt even know who luffy is.
Ryuma gets mentioned fuck all in the manga and is litterarly rumor man 2.0
This is also get further driven home because Zoro was running around for 80% of the manga with his signature blacksword and no one give a fuck about this. This is the eqvivalent of Luffy running aroudn with gear 5 since TB and no one giving a fuck.
i guess imu never soloed Elbaf before this chapter he was afraid of Harald or his dad. Im sure we will get a le epic scene of imu recognize le ryooma as soon as he sees zoro, (a man who looks at bounties btw.) as many pointed out he is a pysical copy
Ryuma gets mentioned fuck all in the manga and is litterarly rumor man 2.0
This is also get further driven home because Zoro was running around for 80% of the manga with his signature blacksword and no one give a fuck about this. This is the eqvivalent of Luffy running aroudn with gear 5 since TB and no one giving a fuck.
i guess imu never soloed Elbaf before this chapter he was afraid of Harald or his dad. Im sure we will get a le epic scene of imu recognize le ryooma as soon as he sees zoro, (a man who looks at bounties btw.) as many pointed out he is a pysical copy
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Do you unironically believe the entire world government mobilized to fight Ryuma and lost? Do you also believe the real life Japanese army was the greatest in the world because the mongols failed to conquer them?
Let´s get back to reality
The Kozuki clan shut Wano´s borders to protect the country from an external threat.
The world government: the borders are staying closed, so we can´t invade
Despite Joyboy dying 800 years ago, Kaido, Oden and the world government all hype him. Literally none of those groups have ever showed an interest in Ryuma, who you think solo´d the entire government.
Let´s get back to reality
The Kozuki clan shut Wano´s borders to protect the country from an external threat.
The world government: the borders are staying closed, so we can´t invade
Despite Joyboy dying 800 years ago, Kaido, Oden and the world government all hype him. Literally none of those groups have ever showed an interest in Ryuma, who you think solo´d the entire government.
Do you unironically believe the entire world government mobilized to fight Ryuma and lost? Do you also believe the real life Japanese army was the greatest in the world because the mongols failed to conquer them?
Let´s get back to reality
The Kozuki clan shut Wano´s borders to protect the country from an external threat.
The world government: the borders are staying closed, so we can´t invade
Despite Joyboy dying 800 years ago, Kaido, Oden and the world government all hype him. Literally none of those groups have ever showed an interest in Ryuma, who you think solo´d the entire government.
Let´s get back to reality
The Kozuki clan shut Wano´s borders to protect the country from an external threat.
The world government: the borders are staying closed, so we can´t invade
Despite Joyboy dying 800 years ago, Kaido, Oden and the world government all hype him. Literally none of those groups have ever showed an interest in Ryuma, who you think solo´d the entire government.
Its doubly funny because we know you can reach wano now even as below YC level pirate with a ship and we also know imu can vessel teleport, so that would be enough
So the argument here is ryuma soloed the entireity of wg and then his replacement some rock walls the WG couldnt go through but they really wanted
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We’ve literally seen Joyboy can singlehandedly clap All five Gorosei away… And Oda had Ryuma be compared to Joyboy when talking about Luffy as some kind of legendary hero
I mean since Both Ryuma and Joyboy are compared to Luffy and are Luffy parallels, why wouldnt they have similar feats?
Again, until proven otherwise I will believe what’s stated in the manga, that Ryuma singlehandedly kept the entire wg out of Wano…
I mean since Both Ryuma and Joyboy are compared to Luffy and are Luffy parallels, why wouldnt they have similar feats?
Again, until proven otherwise I will believe what’s stated in the manga, that Ryuma singlehandedly kept the entire wg out of Wano…
Do you unironically believe the entire world government mobilized to fight Ryuma and lost? Do you also believe the real life Japanese army was the greatest in the world because the mongols failed to conquer them?
Let´s get back to reality
The Kozuki clan shut Wano´s borders to protect the country from an external threat.
The world government: the borders are staying closed, so we can´t invade
Despite Joyboy dying 800 years ago, Kaido, Oden and the world government all hype him. Literally none of those groups have ever showed an interest in Ryuma, who you think solo´d the entire government.
Let´s get back to reality
The Kozuki clan shut Wano´s borders to protect the country from an external threat.
The world government: the borders are staying closed, so we can´t invade
Despite Joyboy dying 800 years ago, Kaido, Oden and the world government all hype him. Literally none of those groups have ever showed an interest in Ryuma, who you think solo´d the entire government.
Well even if Ryuma was at least just as strong as Oden then he does win easily
