General & Others For what reason exactly would Marco stop fighting King ?

[Lightbolt]

Honestly, both "Zoro is gonna fight King" or "Zoro is gonna return to fight Kaidou" have their own legit reasons to believe in their cause.

For instances, people said Zoro will not return to Kaidou just because he trust Luffy. But there's other instances in the story itself to support otherwise, like in Thriller Bark

He trusts Luffy, but he knows that they can't leave everything into Luffy's own hands.

The only arc where any of the strawhats stepped up to help Luffy beat the main villain in the final fight ( where the finishing blow is delivered ) was Thriller Bark. Otherwise‚ all the arc ( final ) villain was delivered the final blow by Luffy in a 1 on 1 fight

 

[BleakAsh]

I am indifferent about who fights Kaido with Luffy‚ but don't you think a Luffy / Yamato vs Kaido is more likely ? After all Luffy and Yamato have many reasons to bring Kaido down

Luffy and Yamato are worthy.. but then imagine zoro getting the injection shot.. and not really proving kaido wrong that "there is a monster swordsman alive" and it'd be natural that he'd think of going to roof as he couldn't fight kaido at his peak strength.. and his wish to cut Kaido down is fairly strong too.. so that wish is certain insatiable.. or

One could honestly argue that that Ashura attack wouldn't have been any more powerful than zoro at peak.. since it was a last ditch effort..and hence he wouldn't wanna go up there since luffy told him to leave the rest to him..that is a fair point IF Ashura at his peak is the same as the one he executed against kaido.. but you can't just give side plots to zoro now can you.. unless its something relevant and worthy i don't assume zoro to just stay put and not join the fight above wasting his transient drug affects and eventually relapsing to his injuries twice as painfully...

so what i assume is... zoro being up there is must considering the fact that he can't waste time on inconsequential plots to him..


And i Also assume that zpro. won't be the only one who heads to the roof... just wait a see.. but zoro being there is just warranted

 

[zzShinichi]

The only arc where any of the strawhats stepped up to help Luffy beat the main villain in the final fight ( where the finishing blow is delivered ) was Thriller Bark. Otherwise‚ the main arc villain was delivered the final blow by Luffy in a 1 on 1 fight

Yeah i don't argue against Luffy dealing the finishing bow. It's just that it's one of the reason to support the theory that Zoro is gonna return to fight Kaidou WITH Luffy
Anyways i might have digested lol. Yeah Marco will be the deciding factor in this case.

 

[BleakAsh]

The only arc where any of the strawhats stepped up to help Luffy beat the main villain in the final fight ( where the finishing blow is delivered ) was Thriller Bark. Otherwise‚ all the arc ( final ) villain was delivered the final blow by Luffy in a 1 on 1 fight

no but that is important since.. the circumstances called for a collaborative work from the Strawhats seeing how their captain is unreliable... in that moment

 

[Shanal]

I am indifferent about who fights Kaido with Luffy‚ but don't you think a Luffy / Yamato vs Kaido is more likely ? After all Luffy and Yamato have many personal reasons to bring Kaido down. Unlike Zoro who just hated Kaido for what he did to Wano or the people of Wano like all Wano people hates him
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He has no other way of going up there‚ unless he waits till Onigishima lands. And Marco being a healing and flying support was my point
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I don't get it‚ are you agreeing with my point or disagreeing ? Lol

Idek your point. I was making a post.

 

[Lightbolt]

Luffy and Yamato are worthy.. but then imagine zoro getting the injection shot.. and not really proving kaido wrong that "there is a monster swordsman alive" and it'd be natural that he'd think of going to roof as he couldn't fight kaido at his peak strength.. and his wish to cut Kaido down is fairly strong too.. so that wish is certain insatiable.. or

One could honestly argue that that Ashura attack wouldn't have been any more powerful than zoro at peak.. since it was a last ditch effort..and hence he wouldn't wanna go up there since luffy told him to leave the rest to him..that is a fair point IF Ashura at his peak is the same as the one he executed against kaido.. but you can't just give side plots to zoro now can you.. unless its something relevant and worthy i don't assume zoro to just stay put and not join the fight above wasting his transient drug affects and eventually relapsing to his injuries twice as painfully...

so what i assume is... zoro being up there is must considering the fact that he can't waste time on inconsequential plots to him..


And i Also assume that zpro. won't be the only one who heads to the roof... just wait a see.. but zoro being there is just warranted

From a story telling point of viee‚ Luffy was imprisoned by Kaido and made to put to hard work. Yamato was imprisoned by Kaido since childhood with an exploding chains. These are personal reasons.

Zoro is strong‚ but I won't put him up there just to increase his power scaling. From a story telling point of view ‚ he has no personal reasons as much as these two or even the Scabbards to want to beat Kaido that badly. He hates Kaido ? Sure‚ but what did Kaido personally hurt Zoro in like those two
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no but that is important since.. the circumstances called for a collaborative work from the Strawhats seeing how their captain is unreliable... in that moment

Which only happened in Thriller Bark‚ where Nightmare Luffy mostly ended up saving the day anyway

 

[humanbeing]

He has no other way of going up there‚ unless he waits till Onigishima lands. And Marco being a healing and flying support was my point

i agree on that i said always that Marco will be the one who brings him back. since i think Oda wanted Marco just for the support there so he helps where he is needed if you look from the beginning does exactly that.
- he knocked BM ship down and so that the alliance has less enemies
- he flew Neko and Izo Onigashima
- he went back to hinder Perospero from joining, didn't success because BM interfere.
- helped Chopper and the alliance against the ice oni.
- helped Zoro to get the roof top.
- held Queen and King in check and hinder them from defeating the alliance forces.
- helped Chopper deliver an attack against Queen.
- still holding King back, so he cannot damage the alliance.

the moment Zoro gets back he will fight King and Marco can go bring Luffy back. so Luffy can meet him finally and thanks him as well.

 

[BleakAsh]

From a story telling point of viee‚ Luffy was imprisoned by Kaido and made to put to hard work. Yamato was imprisoned by Kaido since childhood. These are personal reasons.

Zoro is strong‚ but I won't put him up there just to increase his power scaling. From a story telling point of view ‚ he has no personal reasons as much as these two or even the Scabbards to want to beat Kaido that badly. He hates Kaido ? Sure‚ but what did Kaido personally hurt Zoro in like those two

the powerscaling Bs is what we fans make up honestly considering people fighting Kaido are in the class of their own is baseless and false reasoning.. based on that reasoning that would put Scabbards over many rn.. but its not only about power.. zoro has a grudge since kaido was a main reason why Yasui is dead and his fellow comrades "scabbards" and now beaten by him.. the reason why zoro admitted to take enma is coz it gave the user the potential to cut Kaido .. the narrative is set for him to fight kaido, zoro reciprocates with the atrocities kaido brought to wano and shares luffy's feeling about it..he afterall is the 2nd Strongest of the allies as confirmed by queen.. and is responsible for luffy's survival.. as a right hand, someone who bears a grudge against kaido, and someone who couldn't fight kaido at his peak.. gives him ample reason to spend the little time hd has left.. to fight and assist luffy and the other in fighting Kaido

 

[Lightbolt]

the powerscaling Bs is what we fans make up honestly considering people fighting Kaido are in the class of their own is baseless and false reasoning.. based on that reasoning that would put Scabbards over many rn.. but its not only about power.. zoro has a grudge since kaido was a main reason why Yasui is dead and his fellow comrades "scabbards" and now beaten by him.. the reason why zoro admitted to take enma is coz it gave the user the potential to cut Kaido .. the narrative is set for him to fight kaido, zoro reciprocates with the atrocities kaido brought to wano and shares luffy's feeling about it..he afterall is the 2nd Strongest of the allies as confirmed by queen.. and is responsible for luffy's survival.. as a right hand, someone who bears a grudge against kaido, and someone who couldn't fight kaido at his peak.. gives him ample reason to spend the little time hd has left.. to fight and assist luffy and the other in fighting Kaido

Zoro's connection to Yasui is even less than the Scabbards or all the Wano people who were crying watching Yasui die. He was just angered seeing a person die unfairly‚ while his people can't even cry cause of Kaido. These are all the same reasons every one in Wano hates him‚ there is nothing personal like being imprisoned and made to work hard like Luffy or getting chained since childhood with an exploding chains.

 

[BleakAsh]

Zoro's connection to Yasui is even less than the Scabbards or all the Wano people who were crying watching Yasui die. He was just angered seeing a person die unfairly‚ while his people can't even cry cause of Kaido. These are all the same reasons every one in Wano hates him‚ there is nothing personal like being imprisoned and made to work hard like Luffy or getting chained since childhood with an exploding chains.

they lost...and SHP and allies are some of the last hope the samurai have

 

[Formerly Seth]

It seems a lot of theories suggest Zoro is fighting King‚ but what I can't tell is‚ what exactly would make Marco stop fighting ? If Zoro is there‚ Marco can just double team King. This is a war‚ I don't believe Marco will be like ' You are the future generation‚ I leave it to you ' thing

What are your predictions on how or why Marco will stop fighting King or how he will substitute the fight with someone else ( even if it is not Zoro ) ? And that is if ( a big if ) that happens to begin with‚ that he stops fighting for some reason

Plus showing Marco defeated by King and needing assistance is unlikely to happen. Would show Marco as a weak first commander

There is none. 100% Zoro wasting his time on King now is a bullshit. It's only pushed by the opposite fandom who are so insecure about Zoro and Sanji fighting commanders so they can jerk off that Sanji did what Zoro did because they can't repeat this with the roof.

 

[Lightbolt]

they lost...and SHP and allies are some of the last hope the samurai have

True‚ but there is still Luffy and Yamato. Who as I mentioned in my last post‚ have more personal reasons x10 to fight Kaido than Zoro ever had
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There is none. 100% Zoro wasting his time on King now is a bullshit. It's only pushed by the opposite fandom who are so insecure about Zoro and Sanji fighting commanders so they can jerk off that Sanji did what Zoro did because they can't repeat this with the roof.

I don't get it. Why are lots of people caring about power scaling more than the story ?

 

[kumae]

If zoro doesn't go to fight kaido(because he trust luffy)or fighting King(he is fighting Marco) he probably will go to fight BM alongside with kid and law

 

[Lightbolt]

If zoro doesn't go to fight kaido(because he trust luffy)or fighting King(he is fighting Marco) he probably will go to fight BM alongside with kid and law

I am against Zoro fighting Kaido‚ but Zoro overshadowing Law and Kid would be even worse‚ that I would rather Zoro fights Kaido

 

[Formerly Seth]

True‚ but there is still Luffy and Yamato. Who as I mentioned in my last post‚ have more personal reasons x10 to fight Kaido than Zoro ever had
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I don't get it. Why are lots of people caring about power scaling more than the story ?

Because story is trash currently. Only Oda defenders would say that current plot is good. After 957 there hasn't been much story development just pointless running around Onigashima and stalling.

 

[Lightbolt]

Because story is trash currently. Only Oda defenders would say that current plot is good. After 957 there hasn't been much story development just pointless running around Onigashima and stalling.

You are implying that the Zoro vs Sanji debates haven't been going since Enies Lobby. Good or bad story telling has nothing to do with it.

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

It's been obvious since that Perospero panel that Marco is getting yeeted from the fight.

 

[yamoden]

Because zoro is going to fight him.

 

[Formerly Seth]

You are implying that the Zoro vs Sanji debates haven't been going since Enies Lobby. Good or bad story telling has nothing to do with it.

I thought u meant more atm.

It's not even a debate. More like the opposite side of the fence trying to force pointless agenda that Sanji is on par with Zoro which never been the case.

 

[Lightbolt]

I thought u meant more atm.

It's not even a debate. More like the opposite side of the fence trying to force pointless agenda that Sanji is on par with Zoro which never been the case.

Whether Zoro or Sanji is stronger is not my point. I don't even care. All I was wondering about is people caring more about their favourite character getting higher in the power scale‚ even at the expense of us having a masterpiece story at the end