Questions & Mysteries Fusion of all Gear 4 forms

[sanjikun]

I've seen this theory thrown around and I wonder if Oda will ever use it. We've seen Snakeman and Tankman being incorporated into Boundman I think.

This page incorporates both Snakeman and Tankman in Boundman.

Snakeman - "Keep going Python, Don't slow down"

Tankman - "Is it hard. Is it soft?" which is the same as "he's rubber in an armament state"

Will we see a more permanent fusion to beat Kaido?

 

[Xione]

Boundman already is the fusion of Snakeman & Tankman. The latter two being specialized forms that'll be used in specific scenarios. They more than likely will remain that way. Since snakeman will always be faster than a fusion form. And Tankman more "tanky" than a fusion form. Which I assume the reason for specialization of the two forms, to make luffy more versatile in dealing with situations that require one extreme over the other.

 

[sanjikun]

Boundman already is the fusion of Snakeman & Tankman. The latter two being specialized forms that'll be used in specific scenarios. They more than likely will remain that way. Since snakeman will always be faster than a fusion form. And Tankman more "tanky" than a fusion form. Which I assume the reason for specialization of the two forms, to make luffy more versatile in dealing with situations that require one extreme over the other.

No, as in, he'll be able to utilize the speed of Snakeman, and the defence of Tankman in Boundman.

 

[Xione]

No, as in, he'll be able to utilize the speed of Snakeman, and the defence of Tankman in Boundman.

Hmm idk how that's gonna be possible bro. Because snakeman increases the speed by giving up the size/strength. Tankman increases the strength/size by giving up the speed. Cause that's really the main principle behind the specializations, then with Boundman you have a combo of both.

So I'm not sure if he could ever attain a "fusion" that'll be fast as Snakeman, a pure speed form. UNLESS he goes up another gear like G5 or something.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Still waiting on Tigerman.

 

[Finalbeta]

I think he will just go awakening

A G5 will likely come out before EoS ends

But against Teach, he won't be able to rely on his DF so Oda will actually focus on his CoA and expecially CoC, not his DF anymore from now on I fear.....

 

[Chaves]

I would call it awakening.
Awakening from the rubber fruit is very, very simple; it is the control of the body's elasticity.
All Luffy needs to do is control the elasticity of his body as he pleases, he would no longer need to be blowing his body and filling his muscles and bones with air to increase them, as he does in gear3/4.

- Luffy manipulating the density and flexibility of his body, he would no longer use a fat and bouncing fuck with linear speed to give him an increase in power.

-He could make king kong guns casually without having to fill his muscles with air all the time, in addition to being able to combine this attack with gear2, which would make the attack even faster, releasing an air compression bomb.

- He would no longer need to fill his stomach with food and air to be able to make the tankman, he can increase his stomach casually just by manipulating the elasticity of his body

- He could casually direct his arms like he does in the snakeman, without requiring much stamina and haki.

- To increase the speed, he can merge gear2 with gear4, combining the acceleration of blood flow (g2) with the concentrated compression in the legs (g4)

- And to increase the durability of the body, it can increase the density and thickness of all the organs of the body and combine the elasticity of the rubber with the hardness of the haki, which would give an even greater durability than the gear4.

- All skills become less demanding and instantaneous, as well as being integrated into your base form.

Awakening + penetrating haki + future vision = Luffy top tier

 

[Dickie D. Dick]

We don't know only Goda know.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

I've seen this theory thrown around and I wonder if Oda will ever use it. We've seen Snakeman and Tankman being incorporated into Boundman I think.

This page incorporates both Snakeman and Tankman in Boundman.

Snakeman - "Keep going Python, Don't slow down"

Tankman - "Is it hard. Is it soft?" which is the same as "he's rubber in an armament state"

Will we see a more permanent fusion to beat Kaido?

The fusion can't work because in each form Luffy shapes his body a certain way that compromises something.
Snakeman compromises power for speed, Tank Man compromises literally everything for durability and Boundman is closest thing to fusion we got, its an "all rounder" form.

 

[Finalbeta]

We don't know only Goda know.

Do you see Oda making it to G6?

That would equate 3+3 going by pre ts + post ts

Imo that's a way of lecture albeit a shallow one too I admit xd

 

[Paperchampion23]

I've seen this theory thrown around and I wonder if Oda will ever use it. We've seen Snakeman and Tankman being incorporated into Boundman I think.

This page incorporates both Snakeman and Tankman in Boundman.

Snakeman - "Keep going Python, Don't slow down"

Tankman - "Is it hard. Is it soft?" which is the same as "he's rubber in an armament state"

Will we see a more permanent fusion to beat Kaido?

I "could" see two more forms. One that takes advantage of G4's power (like these 2 forms focus on speed/defense) and another that is a "mastered" form, where he can just do everything without the limitations of each form. Potentially we see this against Kaido.

Awakening/G5 (I can even see them being the same thing, like how Luffy incorporated Haki into G4). I can see being saved for the actual endgame battles/villains.

 

[Dickie D. Dick]

Do you see Oda making it to G6?

That would equate 3+3 going by pre ts + post ts

Imo that's a way of lecture albeit a shallow one too I admit xd

I foresee G6 as Great Ape form like the Sayian in Dragon Ball turn to in full moon, bit look like mix of Sengoku mythical zoan and G4 Boundman - From monkey to Great Ape - I know it's unlikely but man can dream(about all the salty fans LoL).

 

[WesMidnight]

I "could" see two more forms. One that takes advantage of G4's power (like these 2 forms focus on speed/defense) and another that is a "mastered" form, where he can just do everything without the limitations of each form. Potentially we see this against Kaido.

Awakening/G5 (I can even see them being the same thing, like how Luffy incorporated Haki into G4). I can see being saved for the actual endgame battles/villains.

Awakening, advanced CoC and improvement of his current gears, I don't see Blackbeard or Imu being so far above Kaido they require another massive gear form.

Also saying gear "fifth" and "sixth" in engrish romanisation would sound really awkward, wheras 2nd 3rd and FORSUUUUU have managed to sound cool.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

I have a feeling that if we ever do see a fusion of all versions of Gear 4, that life return will play a key factor in it. If Luffy can somehow manage to enter Boundman, and utilizes life return, he'd essentially be able to return to his original size, while still technically being in "Boundman" form.

 

[Lunaria]

I would lean more toward a fusion between Boundman and G3, which he already did to perform his final attack against Doflamingo. If G3 allows him to turn his Kong Gun into a King Kong Gun then maybe he can buff his whole body with G3 while in Boundman, that would be King Kongman. But now that he can use a much more advanced form of CoA, does he even need to go that far ? I mean Boundman used with advanced CoA would already be ridiculously powerful.

 

[Garps tekkai]

I would call it awakening.
Awakening from the rubber fruit is very, very simple; it is the control of the body's elasticity.
All Luffy needs to do is control the elasticity of his body as he pleases,

Yo hi, dude.
I'm with you on everything bar that.
The way you described it, it actually doesn't do the job. You see, the air that gets compressed within Gear 4 or which fills up his gear3 moves, is what gives those moves additional "weight" and power.
If he gets rid of the air he needs to replace it with another "substance" that can simulate those effects. Something that can be compressed, something that adds weight.

Control over his elasticity cannot offer that much. What control over his elasticity would do tho is, that he likely wouldn't need any armament haki for maintaining Gear4 forms anymore, cause like you said he could increase his rubber's durability at will.
Which is already great on itself, but that's really it.

That's why I'm proposing the idea that he will awaken by mastering the control over his elasticity (suddenly Gear4 use w/o CoA-> awakening gets triggered) and when he awakens he can produce rubber cells from within his body, with which he can enlarge parts of his body instantly and freely, similar to non Awakened Katakuri, which he then can compress and all.. And with that he can do all that fancy stuff like partial G4 w/o any drawbacks and such.

 

[critical mindset]

A great colleague of mine made a theory about it

 

[Sentinel]

That's why I'm proposing the idea that he will awaken by mastering the control over his elasticity (suddenly Gear4 use w/o CoA-> awakening gets triggered) and when he awakens he can produce rubber cells from within his body, with which he can enlarge parts of his body instantly and freely, similar to non Awakened Katakuri, which he then can compress and all.. And with that he can do all that fancy stuff like partial G4 w/o any drawbacks and such.

That PU actually makes sense and I would even say that this could be Luffy's Gear 5, thus Luffy's awakening would actually be G5.

G2: accelerating his blood flow.
G3: blowing air into his bones.
G4: blowing air into his muscles, increasing his elasticity and fusing it with armament haki. Rubbery + hardening.
G5: freely producing rubber cells to make extra limps, whatsoever to cancel his gears drawbacks. He'd be like a logia user or non awakened Katakuri, as you said, just that he has the opportunity to transform his body with gears stacking, giving him a huge amount of physical boost.

 

[Garps tekkai]

That PU actually makes sense and I would even say that this could be Luffy's Gear 5, thus Luffy's awakening would actually be G5.

G2: accelerating his blood flow.
G3: blowing air into his bones.
G4: blowing air into his muscles, increasing his elasticity and fusing it with armament haki. Rubbery + hardening.
G5: freely producing rubber cells to make extra limps, whatsoever to cancel his gears drawbacks. He'd be like a logia user or non awakened Katakuri, as you said, just that he has the opportunity to transform his body with gears stacking, giving him a huge amount of physical boost.

Yeah, exactly. Non awakend Katakuri with things like G2, that G4 compression ability and such.
The biggest advantage in comparison to Kuri is, that rubber is solid and not fluid like Mochi.
Covering yourself with some kind of "mochi suit" is essentially useless if not for CoA and then it would just become full body CoA. So nothing really was gained from it.
But covering yourself in compressed rubber is a completely different game. The durability, resilience and strength gains from it, could be massive.
That's why I thought that his awakening will lead to G5, which will enable him to create a "suit" of compressed rubber around his body, with which he will finally get that top tier resilience and durability that he lacks. Endurance just brings you that far after all.
That combined with his gears in general and partial G4 will be terrifying.