[FNZ] Role Madness Game 03: One Piece Dressrosa

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NeutralWatcher

Are gladiators considered townie? I think townie cedera to resident of Dressrosa while scum refers to outsiders
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Mine's the same but Doflamingo is not a townie from my role.
Which doesn't make sense judging by my role that I have someone who fight off against the Doffy pirates in manga yet I be a townie in this round.

You win when all threats to town have been eliminated.
I think confusion is whom we consider dofffy pirates...

This set up is based on doflamingo pirates vs shs...

However from my understanding the doflamingo pirates factor in the original members -Doflamingo himself, along with crew members (past and present) Bellamy, Trafalgar Law, Monet, Baby 5, Caesar Clown, Buffalo, Giolla, Trebol, Senor Pink, Machvise, Violet, Diamante, Pica, Gladius, Sugar, and Corazon (in secret)....

Also shs were the one who infiltrated dressrosa...so they should be scums

While doflamingo pirates would be townie..
My role indicate so. I will confirm with denim again....zoro is cool
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
Being part of The Originals is what I have claimed (first to do so) but I'm not quite sure what it refers to exactly. There are different possibilities that's why I was skeptical (still am) about Doffy being a townie.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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Lmaoooo. Alright folks. I got work in about an hour n' a half, so any overly complex or detailed posts won't be flying from my hip.
Great pick... that's as clever as nami



Out of so many main characters in dressrosa why host will give you thunder soldier??? You made that up so that your fake claim do not get coincided with any likely character role....


You were busy on day 1 as you claimed and even on this day you are simply beating around the bush.....no scum hunting from you.


Playing safe from distance aren't you???



Not buying....

Kyros/ thunder soldier is scum role and not townie


Will do so after Host comes online and clarify something...

And, why are you dodging my question??


Also, listen all townies if you trust me then you will do as I say

:endthis: - scum will probably TRY to NK me tonight so I want to give you guys lead before that. Also, as I said something happened to me last night and until denim clarifies I can't reveal otherwise I would face drastic consequences...so

I am giving you my scum list in order of their sus - tac, final, jew d boy and pantheos, sentinel

Townie - al, neutral watcher ( first two are almost confirmed townie ) and bogard and all red...even playa could be one and of course me

If final is sus then I am inclined to believe that rej is townie... both can't be townie



If anything happens to me go with my sus list.... definitely cast a vote today and after building consensus....we need to do Lynch.


Vote Lynch TAC
So, let me get this right. You vote me because;

I sided with Beta (and furthermore supported my reasons to side with Beta).
And because of a meta strat you're using. Something I've been chided on in the past.
Ok.

For the first part—Yes. Beta's post still fundamentally makes sense to me. Why would he lie about Rej on the beginning of Day 2? Explain that to me, please. He gains NOTHING from being exposed as mafia/scum at the start of day 2, it would only get Beta lynched Day 3 if it turns out Rej is town. Which is DOUBTFUL because Rej's best fucking case is; "Haha guys. Lynch me and I have an ability to kill someone!!!" What the actual fuck is that Reborn? A way to save his own skin? Exactly. There's NO SUBSTANCE to anything Rej has put up to defend himself.

And while Beta has inconsistencies—I myself scrutinized him before you or many other players now voting for me were even on—I am focusing on motives here. Tell me, exactly, why Rej is suddenly the target from Beta besides the fact Rej must be scum? Tell me why an experienced Maf player like Beta would toss out his own cards and get himself figured out DAY 2 FOR FUCKS SAKE over a simple lynch on Rej. Tell me why Rej isn't defending himself?!

As for your meta strat, drop that altogether.
  • Game 1 I was loud and boisterous.
  • Game 2 I started off extremely quiet until Day 2 when Kiwi pushed on me.
  • Game 3 I was very quiet until the mid point of the game.
Each game I've approached Mafia slightly different. I don't give a fuck what your expectations of me are. That narrative is retarded. I know you're probably not Maf, but you're being dumb as shit.

Imo Finalbeta and TAC are sus.

1. Final revealed his role who doesn't have protection against NK. Don't you think that will make him target for SK? Unless Finalbeta is SK since most players only claim when they are lynched by multiple players to defense themselves.

2. He also doesn't know that Doffy is townie. My role indicates Doffy is townie so that's why I agree with Al.

Also TAC supported Final.beta on multiple occasions.
So, why exactly am I sus because I supported Beta and later scrutinized him for the very same reasons? I laid out perfectly why I think Al-sama himself is weird with Flowers death, which I will gladly repeat if you guys don't feel like rereading my earlier posts in the thread (which seems apparent for fucks sake). Once Al pointed out the fact that Beta wasn't exactly town affiliated, I grew sus of him and said I had begrudging trust for Beta based on Rej's own suspicion.

Hell, I even said Beta and Rej could both be scum! But from my perspective, Rej has done a fuck all job of defending himself and Beta has NOTHING TO GAIN from outting himself so early! IF REJ IS TOWN, AND BETA GETS HIM LYNCHED, BETA EARNS HIMSELF NOTHING.

Drill. That. Into. Your. Heads.

People still have to explain to me how am I suspicious in the first place?

Anyway, @Bogard and @Reborn explained quite well that Finalbeta's claims have some flaws and are quite illogical.
I think I'd go with TAC as well, considering this part:



I think Reborn made a good point here. I may not know how certain players play the game but if TAC plays completely different from his usual plays, this is definitely suspicious.
Trusting meta plays is retarded. First off, you can't expect someone to play exactly the same even if they get the same role. Add in the fact that some games I was a power role, others I wasn't, and an evolving understanding of mafia... Lmfao. It's the very off to say I should always be very loud and accusing people left and right.

I defended my stance against Beta logically, as I repeated several times in this thread.
Once Al made cases against Beta, I asked Beta to clarify and I only keep my vote on Rej off the fact that Beta's angle for pushing Rej makes NO SENSE unless Rej is Mafia.
Yet somehow I'm sus lmfao.

It honestly feels like people are ignoring these posts from me.

What's your response Beta? It's entirely possible you just got the role wrong / described it poorly. But what about your character name thing?
But... He's allied with the Straw Hats? An enemy to the Family (town).
So far it's Al's word vs Beta's on whether or not Beta's role is legit (based on possibly semantics). But I'm not a fan of Kyros / Toy Soldier being Beta's character claim. That's a red light warning.
That's the part that doesn't click. And if that doesn't click, I have zero reason to take his word for fact.
Either our character roles are arbitrary or I think Beta could be scum. But then again, Beta doesn't gain much from trying to lynch Rej falsely. It's weird all around. So IDK. I'm keeping my vote on Rej for now.
@Law
@Reborn
@playa4321
@Shura

You guys seem to be quiet today. What do you take away from the events? Flowers death? Beta/Rej/Al being scum (at least 1 of them is IMO).

So really, it's either a really muddled character role to have, or Beta's making a ballsy play here? Which do you lean in? Because Rej hasn't done a good job defending himself ( not from someone as experienced as Rej seems to be) but Beta's confusion here is worrisome.
But I totally was just building a case on the suspicious Rej... Not at all keeping an open mind on Beta. Hmmmmm.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Being part of The Originals is what I have claimed (first to do so) but I'm not quite sure what it refers to exactly. There are different possibilities that's why I was skeptical (still am) about Doffy being a townie.
Yup I cross checked and you indeed claimed original...

Why your messed up so much with ability???


I think NW is right... townie are those who are resident of dressrosa or original members of townie
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Lmaoooo. Alright folks. I got work in about an hour n' a half, so any overly complex or detailed posts won't be flying from my hip.

So, let me get this right. You vote me because;

I sided with Beta (and furthermore supported my reasons to side with Beta).
And because of a meta strat you're using. Something I've been chided on in the past.
Ok.

For the first part—Yes. Beta's post still fundamentally makes sense to me. Why would he lie about Rej on the beginning of Day 2? Explain that to me, please. He gains NOTHING from being exposed as mafia/scum at the start of day 2, it would only get Beta lynched Day 3 if it turns out Rej is town. Which is DOUBTFUL because Rej's best fucking case is; "Haha guys. Lynch me and I have an ability to kill someone!!!" What the actual fuck is that Reborn? A way to save his own skin? Exactly. There's NO SUBSTANCE to anything Rej has put up to defend himself.

And while Beta has inconsistencies—I myself scrutinized him before you or many other players now voting for me were even on—I am focusing on motives here. Tell me, exactly, why Rej is suddenly the target from Beta besides the fact Rej must be scum? Tell me why an experienced Maf player like Beta would toss out his own cards and get himself figured out DAY 2 FOR FUCKS SAKE over a simple lynch on Rej. Tell me why Rej isn't defending himself?!

As for your meta strat, drop that altogether.
  • Game 1 I was loud and boisterous.
  • Game 2 I started off extremely quiet until Day 2 when Kiwi pushed on me.
  • Game 3 I was very quiet until the mid point of the game.
Each game I've approached Mafia slightly different. I don't give a fuck what your expectations of me are. That narrative is retarded. I know you're probably not Maf, but you're being dumb as shit.


So, why exactly am I sus because I supported Beta and later scrutinized him for the very same reasons? I laid out perfectly why I think Al-sama himself is weird with Flowers death, which I will gladly repeat if you guys don't feel like rereading my earlier posts in the thread (which seems apparent for fucks sake). Once Al pointed out the fact that Beta wasn't exactly town affiliated, I grew sus of him and said I had begrudging trust for Beta based on Rej's own suspicion.

Hell, I even said Beta and Rej could both be scum! But from my perspective, Rej has done a fuck all job of defending himself and Beta has NOTHING TO GAIN from outting himself so early! IF REJ IS TOWN, AND BETA GETS HIM LYNCHED, BETA EARNS HIMSELF NOTHING.

Drill. That. Into. Your. Heads.


Trusting meta plays is retarded. First off, you can't expect someone to play exactly the same even if they get the same role. Add in the fact that some games I was a power role, others I wasn't, and an evolving understanding of mafia... Lmfao. It's the very off to say I should always be very loud and accusing people left and right.

I defended my stance against Beta logically, as I repeated several times in this thread.
Once Al made cases against Beta, I asked Beta to clarify and I only keep my vote on Rej off the fact that Beta's angle for pushing Rej makes NO SENSE unless Rej is Mafia.
Yet somehow I'm sus lmfao.

It honestly feels like people are ignoring these posts from me.

But I totally was just building a case on the suspicious Rej... Not at all keeping an open mind on Beta. Hmmmmm.
You are 100% scum... I can absolutely gurantee this.....
Your cunning and smart play like nami is exposed
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
*original members of doflamingo pirates...

Shs are good in manga but not in this game...


Again, let's vote for tac...i am sure on him being scum.. after lynch we will have more clarity on role

Then We can clear final and rej situation
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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*original members of doflamingo pirates...

Shs are good in manga but not in this game...


Again, let's vote for tac...i am sure on him being scum.. after lynch we will have more clarity on role

Then We can clear final and rej situation
You've yet to build any comprehensive case against me that doesn't include Meta, a worthless metric, and to explain away Rej's suspiciousness or reason why Beta is bad.

I'd call you scum, but I'm pretty sure you're just a bad townie (again).
 
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