[FNZ] Role Madness Game 03: One Piece Dressrosa

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Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
I m not just going by his reaction

I m basing this on

1 reborn saying he has something on tac

2 tac being claim restricted and saying he has a powerful role

3 his weird play

4 his reaction to my play
I don't understand why they don't claim at least game character and ability names
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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sad to inform you I voted rej and yes I wanted to lynch beta to clear things out
And I did from the beginning. Whereas you were more on Beta for "information" Would be very convenient to kill Beta 1.0 in a fake lynch and keep Rej alive, eh?

But I was consistently against Rej.... And Reborn has you all drinking the koolaide that I'm evil. And you, specifically, think I am because you're deflecting.
I don't understand why they don't claim at least game character and ability names
I cannot.
 
And I did from the beginning. Whereas you were more on Beta for "information" Would be very convenient to kill Beta 1.0 in a fake lynch and keep Rej alive, eh?

But I was consistently against Rej.... And Reborn has you all drinking the koolaide that I'm evil. And you, specifically, think I am because you're deflecting.
I repeated my reasoning as to why I wanted to lynch beta like 40 times last day and I don't wanna do that again so go read back
 
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NeutralWatcher

I think Al has solid reason why he is townie. In previous day he said Doffy is townie based on his role.

On this day he said he is Senor Pink which matches what he said the day before that Doffy is townie based on his role.

Also it look to me that Rej even Didn't try to defend himself. Is that how he plays in mafia games so far when he was about to be lynched?
 

Kiwipom

Ghost Princess
I don't believe TAC when he says his role is very strong and can't reveal it. To me, this screams scum or maybe even SK if we're assuming that one still exists.

Between Reborn and TAC, I think Reborn is very confident in his suspicion. He isn't saying TAC might be scum, he said TAC is scum as said per his ability. This to me is a better lead and there is no reason for Reborn to claim such because if TAC flips town, Reborn would be sure lynch tomorrow.

However, I don't understand why he isn't claiming. Again, I don't buy the "I can't claim because mod kill" one hundred percent but since TAC is doing the same thing, this isn't a tie breaker.

Vote Lynch TAC
 

Kiwipom

Ghost Princess
Also it look to me that Rej even Didn't try to defend himself. Is that how he plays in mafia games so far when he was about to be lynched?
I think Rej was just frustrated, he got tracked by Beta and most of the town were onto him. It was hard for him to talk himself out of it so the least he could do was try and push a flimsy lynch wagon on FB then claim his ability and take out FB on the way out.

However, in most of the mafia games I've played, scums would try to defend themselves
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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Between Reborn and TAC, I think Reborn is very confident in his suspicion. He isn't saying TAC might be scum, he said TAC is scum as said per his ability.
Kiwi, you're smarter than this. Confidence in this game is essentially the mandate to play. If you're scum (potentially what Reborn is, if he continues pushing me past the point of absurdity) then he'll be requiring plenty of it. Frankly, accusing someone requires that degree of confidence and Reborn's own stipulations for his role are built on the predication that he need not inform anyone for his methods. It's very blatant, see how the narrative changed. At first, it was because of a meta decision and that my game style changed. But after OTHER users hinted that it might be Reborn's ability (which he inexplicably cannot explain for fear of death) he leapt on the narrative and ran with it.

Reborn. Did. Not. Say. His. Ability. Told. Him. I. Was. Scum.

This is something he propped up after his meta campaign against me crumbled.

He has no evidence.

I have been on the right side of EVERY action all game. I supported Flowers day 1, HELL! I supported Reborn day 1 despite refusing to cooperate with basic questions!

Day 2, Rej's inaction was leapt on by yours truly despite other people in this game insisting Beta 1.0 was pulling the strings to achieve a fraudulent lynch on Rej. As it turns out, Beta 1.0 and myself were correct from the get go.

Day 3 I'm now saying Al Sama is evil, yet I'm once more being lynched. The man has been against EVERY TOWNIE IN THE GAME, EVERY ACTION THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE TOWN. But I, for some god forsaken reason, am kept locked in the lane of premium suspicion. Jew D Boy, Bogard, and probably a few others aren't even talking! Why are they not getting pressure votes?

My innocence need not be proven. It is guilt which needs some firm foundation to be built upon. Reborn's meta "feelings" don't count, and the word of Al is worth less than Reborn's.

Unvote me please.
 
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Come to think of it. Rej's passive ability is Hakuba. That ability allowed him to take out one person of his choice im case he gets lynched so if mafia wants to sacrifice 1 of their partners, Rej is the perfect choice because he will take any player of his choice if he gets lynched. And with NK mafia gets 2 townie dies.

The first one to vote Rej was Final but he was confirmed townie. And TAC Immediately agreed with Final without questioning Final claim was take or not.

TAC enters my suspicion list for now.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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Come to think of it. Rej's passive ability is Hakuba. That ability allowed him to take out one person of his choice im case he gets lynched so if mafia wants to sacrifice 1 of their partners, Rej is the perfect choice because he will take any player of his choice if he gets lynched. And with NK mafia gets 2 townie dies.

The first one to vote Rej was Final but he was confirmed townie. And TAC Immediately agreed with Final without questioning Final claim was take or not.

TAC enters my suspicion list for now.
...?!?!?!?! IN WHAT WORLD IS IT WRONG TO HUNT THE MAFIA?!

I don't understand this logic! I am doing everything right! I support common sense in the first day, I take an aggressive stance on Rej (and still remain skeptical on Al and Beta 1.0) day 2! And I seem to be the only person able to cut through the bullshit that is Al Sama on day 3!

What the fuck do I gotta do to prove I'm town? I've done more for this shitty town than Reborn has, who's meta feelings are the main reason I am under suspicion!
 
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...?!?!?!?! IN WHAT WORLD IS IT WRONG TO HUNT THE MAFIA?!

I don't understand this logic! I am doing everything right! I support common sense in the first day, I take an aggressive stance on Rej (and still remain skeptical on Al and Beta 1.0) day 2! And I seem to be the only person able to cut through the bullshit that is Al Sama on day 3!

What the fuck do I gotta do to prove I'm town? I've done more for this shitty town than Reborn has, who's meta feelings are the main reason I am under suspicion!
There is a possibility scum lynched his or her partner. If scum wants to sacrifice 1 of their partners, Rej is the perfect choice because of his passive ability.

What I want to know is you immediately agreed with Final claim. His claim could be fake or not but you immediately agreed and Didn't question his claim validity
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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There is a possibility scum lynched his or her partner. If scum wants to sacrifice 1 of their partners, Rej is the perfect choice because of his passive ability.

What I want to know is you immediately agreed with Final claim. His claim could be fake or not but you immediately agreed and Didn't question his claim validity
1 — How would Mafia know that Rej is going to be seen murdering people? Wasn't that how Beta 1.0 caught Rej? That type of preordained actions—to have Rej take the fall immediately with the understanding he was going to be lynched—is beyond the scope of normal thinking.

2—I supported Beta 1.0 because it was very obvious. No one is putting up that claim unless they have proof. Scum do NOT BENEFIT from outting themselves indirectly at the start of day 2. So, clearly, Beta 1.0 wasn't scum.
 

Kiwipom

Ghost Princess
Kiwi, you're smarter than this. Confidence in this game is essentially the mandate to play. If you're scum (potentially what Reborn is, if he continues pushing me past the point of absurdity) then he'll be requiring plenty of it. Frankly, accusing someone requires that degree of confidence and Reborn's own stipulations for his role are built on the predication that he need not inform anyone for his methods. It's very blatant, see how the narrative changed. At first, it was because of a meta decision and that my game style changed. But after OTHER users hinted that it might be Reborn's ability (which he inexplicably cannot explain for fear of death) he leapt on the narrative and ran with it.

Reborn. Did. Not. Say. His. Ability. Told. Him. I. Was. Scum.

This is something he propped up after his meta campaign against me crumbled.

He has no evidence.

I have been on the right side of EVERY action all game. I supported Flowers day 1, HELL! I supported Reborn day 1 despite refusing to cooperate with basic questions!

Day 2, Rej's inaction was leapt on by yours truly despite other people in this game insisting Beta 1.0 was pulling the strings to achieve a fraudulent lynch on Rej. As it turns out, Beta 1.0 and myself were correct from the get go.

Day 3 I'm now saying Al Sama is evil, yet I'm once more being lynched. The man has been against EVERY TOWNIE IN THE GAME, EVERY ACTION THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE TOWN. But I, for some god forsaken reason, am kept locked in the lane of premium suspicion. Jew D Boy, Bogard, and probably a few others aren't even talking! Why are they not getting pressure votes?

My innocence need not be proven. It is guilt which needs some firm foundation to be built upon. Reborn's meta "feelings" don't count, and the word of Al is worth less than Reborn's.

Unvote me please.
Again, Reborn said that he knows you are scum. Not he thinks, he knows. And what good does it serve him to claim this?

1. Supporting Flowers on day 1 - scum should always support townies to prove blend in. They aren't gonna start buddying up with their mafia partners especially on day 1

2. It was Beta who started the lynch on Rej. You just jumped on right away no questions asked. Why didn't you do the same thing with Beta 2.0?

3. Al sama claimed something and so far it seems reasonable. No one has contested his claims yet

Compared to someone who hasn't claimed and tells us that their ability is very strong, this makes me wonder who you could be. Doffy? Sabo? Law? Sabo and Law would both not be town.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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Again, Reborn said that he knows you are scum. Not he thinks, he knows. And what good does it serve him to claim this?
He's bluffing. He can't say jack shit without dying, but knows I'm bad? And his immediate suspicions were all META. His argument that it's a role based function to prove I'm guilty (proof requires some sort of evidence, mind you. He's produced none) is bollocks.

If you let Reborn lynch me, I'll be amazed. Truly. Utterly. Amazed. Because he's done nothing.

1. Supporting Flowers on day 1 - scum should always support townies to prove blend in. They aren't gonna start buddying up with their mafia partners especially on day 1
Yes. Do you know who also supports town? Town players.

2. It was Beta who started the lynch on Rej. You just jumped on right away no questions asked. Why didn't you do the same thing with Beta 2.0?
Because I haven't paid half as much attention to Day 3—I was at work for the bulk of it, and Beta coming back has me a little confused. I'm trying to separate what I know about Beta 1.0 before coming to Beta 2.0.

3. Al sama claimed something and so far it seems reasonable. No one has contested his claims yet
Oh. He claimed. In a game where you have 3/4 inactive players?

Stunning. I guess it was a genuine misstep, when he produced a false will?


Compared to someone who hasn't claimed and tells us that their ability is very strong, this makes me wonder who you could be. Doffy? Sabo? Law? Sabo and Law would both not be town.
I cannot say unless YOU AND EVERYONE ELSE are confident you value me being worthless but confirmed over my POWERFUL ABILITY.
 
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NeutralWatcher

1 — How would Mafia know that Rej is going to be seen murdering people? Wasn't that how Beta 1.0 caught Rej? That type of preordained actions—to have Rej take the fall immediately with the understanding he was going to be lynched—is beyond the scope of normal thinking.

2—I supported Beta 1.0 because it was very obvious. No one is putting up that claim unless they have proof. Scum do NOT BENEFIT from outting themselves indirectly at the start of day 2. So, clearly, Beta 1.0 wasn't scum.
Don't you think Final could be potential target for SK if he revealed his role like that? His role is very importany for townie victory. You immediately agreed without considering this
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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Don't you think Final could be potential target for SK if he revealed his role like that? His role is very importany for townie victory. You immediately agreed without considering this
No. Because Beta now is able to be tested continuously.

Day 3, we'd ask him; "Beta 1.0, who did you visit? Oh, you visited Bogard? Who visited Bogard?"

And, based on if anyone was there, he'd be easy to verify. If he was bullshitting, it's pretty bad. Besides, your suspicion for this involves far too much foresight than what you can expect for a person. Again, you'd be saying Mafia is preparing Rej to die Day 2 and that I am immediately ready to jump on Rej based off that strategy. When in actuality, no one but Beta 1.0 knew he had such a role, or would be looking at Flower.

Too many coincidences for you to believe it was premeditated and a cohesive plan by ANYONE. Alex Jones conspiracy theories have stronger threads tying things together.
 

Kiwipom

Ghost Princess
He's bluffing. He can't say jack shit without dying, but knows I'm bad? And his immediate suspicions were all META. His argument that it's a role based function to prove I'm guilty (proof requires some sort of evidence, mind you. He's produced none) is bollocks.

If you let Reborn lynch me, I'll be amazed. Truly. Utterly. Amazed. Because he's done nothing.

Yes. Do you know who also supports town? Town players.

Because I haven't paid half as much attention to Day 3—I was at work for the bulk of it, and Beta coming back has me a little confused. I'm trying to separate what I know about Beta 1.0 before coming to Beta 2.0.

Oh. He claimed. In a game where you have 3/4 inactive players?

Stunning. I guess it was a genuine misstep, when he produced a false will?

I cannot say unless YOU AND EVERYONE ELSE are confident you value me being worthless but confirmed over my POWERFUL ABILITY.
Then why did you unvote Rej and change to FB in day 2 when you were sure that FB was telling the truth and wanted to support him?

Well then who do you think should be lynched?
 
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