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Is Bleach Better than Kingdom?

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Rumble

Rumble

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#4,561
Kan Ki not including Shin there makes perfect sense.

They already have Ri Boku where they want him, and under these circumstances, relatively speaking, he's not a particularly strong fighter. Kan Ki , Zenou and Shu Ma should be more than enough to get the job done and they have experience working together.

Considering time is of the essence, the best use of the Qin's strongest fighters is holding back Zhao reinforcements away from him long enough and securing viable escape routes.

Jailer said:
Yeah I am still waiting why Riboku should be truly frightened by this development over the other option. Let's see next few chapters hopefully
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What are you waiting on? Just look at Ri Boku's face all throughout the ambush.

He's completely vulnerable and surrounded. That is a very frightening situation, especially if he loses people precious to him.
 
Jailer

Jailer

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#4,562
#4,562
Rumble said:
Kan Ki not including Shin there makes perfect sense.

They already have Ri Boku where they want him, and under these circumstances, relatively speaking, he's not a particularly strong fighter. Kan Ki , Zenou and Shu Ma should be more than enough to get the job done and they have experience working together.

Considering time is of the essence, the best use of the Qin's strongest fighters is holding back Zhao reinforcements away from him long enough and securing viable escape routes.



What are you waiting on? Just look at Ri Boku's face all throughout the ambush.

He's completely vulnerable and surrounded. That is a very frightening situation, especially if he loses people precious to him.
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Meh
 
Rumble

Rumble

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#4,563
#4,563
Jailer said:
Meh
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I mean, yeah, that is typically the response when the language of Hara's foreshadowing and dialogue doesn't actually match up with what is shown.

Which is a point I raise her constantly.

What makes Hara seemingly uniquely good at whipping up hype and tension so easily and so quickly is a combination of a) absolute commitment to pace without compromise (very few part of Kingdom drag), and b) hyperbole and exaggeration.

Love it or hate - and I happen to love it - it's a style that works really well for the story he's trying to tell, which is a highly fictionalised and abridged retelling of the unification of China that would probably take 1000s of chapters to adequately cover.

Of course it's not without its drawbacks, which often occur when the content of chapters don't match what the reader is told to believe or led to anticipate.
 
Monet

Monet

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#4,564
#4,564
Shanks said:
Kanki has created the best opportunity for taking out Riboku. But the main offense being given to guy like Shumu or Kokou rather than Shin, Kai sisters and Aisen is really PIS.

In the end of Zhao war, both Kanki and Riboku were to be down and looks like Hara wants to give Riboku a better ending here than Kanki considering Riboku was the leading villain of the series while Kanki is just one of the main general from leading state.

The way Kanki harassed Riboku in whole arc and than even isolated him so brilliantly but now showed to put up his last fight like this is really looking like a joke. Lol
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I hope Hara would make situation looks nicer and fitting to plot in next chapter rather this dumb PIS.

Whole arc was going perfectly but just the actions in this chapter...
:seriously:
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well kk sisters are only known for the readers and hsu unit other than that kk is 3k commander even there's no great achievements for .
but agree with at least shin , he fucking killed HOKEN ?! also we shouldn't forgot how obsissed shin with rbk !?



Shanks said:
Thanks to Yoshi in TKC.

Cover page : riboku with his sword

Zeno breaks through the lines and reaches up to 2 soldiers near riboku, same for shuma rushed towards riboku, kaine tried to protect riboku.

Shin and the others saw the reinforcements coming to help riboku and they clashed with them.

Shuma almost killed kaine and injured her, but riboku saved her and now he is facing Shuma. from behind Kaine, Riboku hits him unexpectedly, but Shuma did not notice it, Riboku's sword pierces Shuma's left eye, and the sword comes out from behind the skull of Shuma's head. while kanki is watching shuma dying, kaine is bleeding while lying on her horse and riboku check up on her.

Kouko'ou shoots her arrow at Riboku and the arrow flies in his direction.

end of the chapter with the arrow cliffhanger

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also it seems he didn't translate this part

shouma attacked rbk then kain interfer but shuma manged to hurt her then rbk face shuma
rbk vs shuma
shuma gave rbk strong blow while rbk followers are worried then kain interfer again
and this happen rbk attack from behind kain


 
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Great General Kanki

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#4,565
#4,565
God Buggy said:
@Greenbeard @Great General Kanki I'm very interested in seeing if Yan currently houses some individual(s) who worked under Gakuki. We'd be in for some real hype for sure in that case.
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this would be cool
Shanks said:
Kanki has created the best opportunity for taking out Riboku. But the main offense being given to guy like Shumu or Kokou rather than Shin, Kai sisters and Aisen is really PIS.

In the end of Zhao war, both Kanki and Riboku were to be down and looks like Hara wants to give Riboku a better ending here than Kanki considering Riboku was the leading villain of the series while Kanki is just one of the main general from leading state.

The way Kanki harassed Riboku in whole arc and than even isolated him so brilliantly but now showed to put up his last fight like this is really looking like a joke. Lol
Post automatically merged:

I hope Hara would make situation looks nicer and fitting to plot in next chapter rather this dumb PIS.

Whole arc was going perfectly but just the actions in this chapter...
:seriously:
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How can you say kanki has harassed riboku all arc? Riboku played the hell out of qin from day 1 and has ravaged Qin at every turn. Kanki has lost 90% of his army. He had Gian only because Shin performed a top tier, Duke level moment and escaped. Otherwise it would have been an utter massacre.
 
Shanks

Shanks

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#4,566
Great General Kanki said:
this would be cool

How can you say kanki has harassed riboku all arc? Riboku played the hell out of qin from day 1 and has ravaged Qin at every turn. Kanki has lost 90% of his army. He had Gian only because Shin performed a top tier, Duke level moment and escaped. Otherwise it would have been an utter massacre.
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Basically Riboku with hundreds of thousands troops can't even get close to Kanki or even made him loose his cool or made Kanki felt like he's been dancing on Riboku's flute but Kanki with just one move got his men near to Riboku's throat and make Riboku dancing on his tunes for full two or three days (I'm forgetting the timeline here, so it's not accurate. sorry).

Lastly Kanki isn't someone who cares about numbers or how many he lost. His tricks or movements are all for just achieving the end goals even by sacrificing all for that. Or if loosing all just as bait to catch his opponent. Lol
 
Monet

Monet

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#4,569
#4,569
more details of shuma fight

تفاصيل أكثر لمقتل شوما
كاين لم تكن أبداً ند قوي لشوما وكان قادر بكل سهوله أن يقتلها عندما سدد لها ضربه أولى قوية أنهارت فيها كاين وفقدت قواها ثم الضربة الثانية
ليقتلها بعدما ضعف جسدها وأستسلمت لتلقي ضربة شوما لكن ريبوكو أنقذها بتدخله
أصبح الإشتباك بين شوما وريبوكو محتدم وند لند لكن شوما بعد ذلك أظهر تفوق واضح لاحظه الجنود القريبين من القتال ، على أثر هذا التفوق سدد شوما ضرباته القوية ليصيب ريبوكو بجرح ينزف ثم بعدها سدد شوما ضربتين قوية تصدى لها ريبوكو تحت ضغط قوي وقلق من جنوده
بعد ضغط شوما على ريبوكو عادت مرة أخرى كاين لتنقذ ريبوكو وتلتحم مرة أخرى مع شوما الذي أنتبه لها ونجح وجعل سيفها يرتد على رقبتها ويضغط شوما بسيفه على سيفها بإتجاه رقبتها الذي سيتسبب بمقتلها مع زيادة الضغط
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google translation​
More details of Shoma's death
Kane was never a strong match for Shuma, and he was able to easily kill her when he hit her with a strong first blow, in which Kane collapsed and lost her powers, then the second blow.
To kill her after her body weakened and she succumbed to Shoma's blow, but Riboku saved her with his intervention
The clash between Shoma and Riboku became heated and matchless, but after that Shoma showed a clear superiority, which was noticed by the soldiers close to the fight. As a result of this superiority, Shoma hit Riboku with a bleeding wound, and then Shoma hit two strong blows, which Riboku blocked under strong pressure and anxiety from his soldiers.

After Shoma pressed Riboku, Kane returned again to save Riboku and fused again with Shoma, who noticed her and succeeded and made her sword bounce on her neck and Shoma pressed his sword on her sword towards her neck, which would kill her with increasing pressure.

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SakazOuki

SakazOuki

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#4,575
Greenbeard said:
I wonder if Qin has some hidden generals (very powerful ones) who were once lieutenants of old Qin 6 (like Gyouun, Chogaryuu, Tou). It’ll be an interesting change if Hara introduces some of them.
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-Hakuki was too old, vassals likely out of commission if not brutally executed for their war crimes
-Oukutsu was a brute strength type general like Gaimou, not expecting much here
-We already have SHK for Koshou

Only Shibasaku fits the criteria, looks young too
SakazOuki said:
I wonder if we'll eventually have remnants of one of the great 6 armies introduced into the story, like the case with Rin Shou Jou.
My bet is on Shi Ba Saku as he's the only 6 great without any intel on him. From his design I feel like he's a general who would forbid his vassals from following him in death. Somehow Zhao has a more established Great General lore, an addition like this would be cool.

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centurion

centurion

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#4,576
Monet said:
more details of shuma fight

تفاصيل أكثر لمقتل شوما
كاين لم تكن أبداً ند قوي لشوما وكان قادر بكل سهوله أن يقتلها عندما سدد لها ضربه أولى قوية أنهارت فيها كاين وفقدت قواها ثم الضربة الثانية
ليقتلها بعدما ضعف جسدها وأستسلمت لتلقي ضربة شوما لكن ريبوكو أنقذها بتدخله
أصبح الإشتباك بين شوما وريبوكو محتدم وند لند لكن شوما بعد ذلك أظهر تفوق واضح لاحظه الجنود القريبين من القتال ، على أثر هذا التفوق سدد شوما ضرباته القوية ليصيب ريبوكو بجرح ينزف ثم بعدها سدد شوما ضربتين قوية تصدى لها ريبوكو تحت ضغط قوي وقلق من جنوده
بعد ضغط شوما على ريبوكو عادت مرة أخرى كاين لتنقذ ريبوكو وتلتحم مرة أخرى مع شوما الذي أنتبه لها ونجح وجعل سيفها يرتد على رقبتها ويضغط شوما بسيفه على سيفها بإتجاه رقبتها الذي سيتسبب بمقتلها مع زيادة الضغط
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google translation​
More details of Shoma's death
Kane was never a strong match for Shuma, and he was able to easily kill her when he hit her with a strong first blow, in which Kane collapsed and lost her powers, then the second blow.
To kill her after her body weakened and she succumbed to Shoma's blow, but Riboku saved her with his intervention
The clash between Shoma and Riboku became heated and matchless, but after that Shoma showed a clear superiority, which was noticed by the soldiers close to the fight. As a result of this superiority, Shoma hit Riboku with a bleeding wound, and then Shoma hit two strong blows, which Riboku blocked under strong pressure and anxiety from his soldiers.

After Shoma pressed Riboku, Kane returned again to save Riboku and fused again with Shoma, who noticed her and succeeded and made her sword bounce on her neck and Shoma pressed his sword on her sword towards her neck, which would kill her with increasing pressure.

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Cover page : riboku with his sword

Zeno breaks through the lines and reaches up to 2 soldiers near riboku, same for shuma rushed towards riboku, kaine tried to protect riboku.

Shin and the others saw the reinforcements coming to help riboku and they clashed with them. Shuma almost killed kaine and injured her, but riboku saved her and now he is facing Shuma. from behind Kaine, Riboku hits him unexpectedly, but Shuma did not notice it, Riboku's sword pierces Shuma's left eye, and the sword comes out from behind the skull of Shuma's head. while kanki is watching shuma dying, kaine is bleeding while lying on her horse and riboku check up on her.

Koku'ou shoots her arrow at Riboku and the arrow flies in his direction.

end of the chapter with the arrow cliffhanger
 
Topi Jerami

Topi Jerami

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#4,577
#4,577
Shin waiting to fight the reinforcements instead of helping Kanki killing Riboku's squad is a good choice by the author.
1. Now that we know Riboku is just so so fighting wise, it makes even more sense that Kanki's army is still enough to wipe Riboku's squad. Currently nobody in Riboku's squad should be able to stop Zenou. While Shin can guard the exit to prevent Riboku escaping and prevent the likes of Bananji, SSJ and 4 Seika Generals coming in.
2. Symbolically the author doesn't want to make Kanki and Shin directly cooperating. Either because Shin always disagrees with Kanki's method or it is foreshadowing for future Kanki's plot.
 
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