Is Bleach Better than Kingdom?


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Maybe one guy out of the millions of humans Hara has drawn. Lol
lol, you can't even give a straight answer.

Setting aside that there have been several characters the size of SBS or bigger, since you acknowledge at least one, do you concede that SBS' size is therefore, in fact, nothing new?
 
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Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
lol, you can't give a straight answer to save your life, and now you wanna deflect with gifs like you haven't already conceded the point.

I didn't know it was possible for one to be a complete pussy in text alone, but here you are.
I actually did give a straight answer, we can scale Shibashou’s height from the way he towers over his monster men subordinates. You said there were other characters who were Shibashou’s height, I asked you to prove it, and you spewed period blood all over your keyboard completely unprovoked lmfao

I’ve been attacked online before but this was by far the most random attack I’ve experienced lol.
 
I actually did give a straight answer, we can scale Shibashou’s height from the way he towers over his monster men subordinates. You said there were other characters who were Shibashou’s height, I asked you to prove it, and you spewed period blood all over your keyboard completely unprovoked lmfao

I’ve been attacked online before but this was by far the most random attack I’ve experienced lol.
At no point have you given a straight answer.

I asked you if we've seen bigger warriors than SBS - a simple yes or no question, and you answered with a maybe knowing full well you were wrong.

I asked you again, and you deflected with a gif like I can't see it for the capitulation that it is.

If you don't want to want be "attacked" (lol, you pussy), don't be rude from the jump.

Rumble is a sourpuss that tries comically hard to be way too serious and whines about folk being excited. Just ignore the bloke. Lol.
I've not interacted with you in months, but I must've done a number on you for you to still be pressed.

Dry your eyes, it'll all be okay.
 
I've not interacted with you in months, but I must've done a number on you for you to still be pressed.
It is simply a conclusion based on observations on how you have interacted with other forum users during your time here. Lol.
Dry your eyes, it'll all be okay.
Not exactly disproving my observations on you with this post but hey, feel free to do whatever helps you sleep at night Sourpuss. :sweat:
 
It is simply a conclusion based on observations on how you have interacted with other forum users during your time here. Lol.
Interesting. I've made some observations of my own, like that fruity little support system you and @Elder Lee Hung having going to get through disagreements, or that you have the bitch-made habit of being rude first and then acting scandalised when that energy is met in kind.

Keep it cordial and it'll stay that way, but you can't do that, can you? You are fragile and emotional, and that's okay, but it's a bad combination for slinging mud.

Not exactly disproving my observations on you with this post but hey, feel free to do whatever helps you sleep at night Sourpuss.
I wouldn't trust any observations made through teary eyes, but that's just me.

Think pleasant thoughts before bed.
 
Interesting. I've made some observations of my own, like that fruity little support system you and @Elder Lee Hung having going to get through disagreements, or that you have the bitch-made habit of being rude first and then acting scandalised when that energy is met in kind.

Keep it cordial and it'll stay that way, but you can't do that, can you? You are fragile and emotional, and that's okay, but it's a bad combination for slinging mud.



I wouldn't trust any observations made through teary eyes, but that's just me.

Think pleasant thoughts before bed.
I can practically taste the projection in this post. Lol.
 
I can practically taste the projection in this post. Lol.
And I can tell you're not familiar with the concept you're invoking. The hallmark of a true mental midget desperate to be seen as anything but.

You want me to perceive you as unbothered and above it, but you've had your fee fees hurt for a minute now and can't let it go, evidently.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Keep it cordial and it'll stay that way, but you can't do that, can you? You are fragile and emotional, and that's okay, but it's a bad combination for slinging mud.
The irony in this post is thick seeing as how neither one of us insulted you before you started hurling insults and derogatives left and right lmfao

I asked you how Shibashou wank was taken out of context, and you literally offered no argument at all. All you did was cite a quote of mine that you found obnoxious and then started throwing out insults left and right lol.

So you asked me to prove a point I’ve already proven, and then when I asked you to prove your counter-claim you got ultra butthurt for no reason whatsoever and continued to insult me lol. Well I don’t think you’ve earned a real response, and I don’t think you can refute a single thing I’ve said but I’ll give you something to look at anyway:

Here is Moubu’s height:


Very tall but not that freaking tall lol, the top of Yotanwa’s head comes up to about his mid-shoulder and Yotanwa is pretty tall for a woman but she’s not huge, at best taller than average height. The top of Ousen’s head comes up to about the top of Moubu’s shoulders and Ousen is tall but not amazingly tall. Here are more panels for consistency:

Ouki comes up to roughly Moubu’s chin or his shoulder:


Tou is about the same:


Here is another good shot:


I think that soldier on the far right is a good reference for either an average height soldier or even an above average height soldier. And notice he comes up to about Moubu’s nipples.

So now let’s look at Kansaro and Jiaga:


Notice the Lord of Roumou says he is “not short by any means” so he’s probably around the same height as that soldier in the prior pic.

Same thing, the Lord of Roumou comes up to about Kansaro’s nipples, maybe a little bit higher. So we can assume Moubu is slightly, slightly taller than Kansaro and Jiaga. The top of Kansaro’s bun would probably come up to what, Moubu’s eyes?

Now, how tall is Shibashou?


Yeah, they look like fucking children to him. Kansaro maybe comes up to Shibashou’s nipples or slightly above, but I doubt the top of Moubu’s head even reaches Shibashou’s neck.

The guy is absolutely gigantic. So based on my estimates, which I have no doubt you will actually address this time instead of acting like a petulant child, yes Shibashou is in fact much taller than Moubu. Not only is he taller than Moubu, it’s clear from his armor that he is thick with muscle too and isn’t just tall and lanky like Kochou or Sento’Un.

Now while I’m at it, this leaves us with another question: how tall is Kanmei? And it’s tough to say, he’s taller than Moubu but it’s tough to find a good comparison between them. The most straightforward look at his height is here:


Where he’s clearly shown with other characters. So let’s start speculating again:
-Houmei/Keisha/Seikai are about average height
-Ordo is massive
-Kanmei is even more massive

Recall Moubu’s height:


-Average height man comes up to roughy Moubu’s nipples
-Seikai and Homei come up to a bit above Ordo’s nipples,

Ergo, Moubu is slightly, slightly taller than Ordo. This would mean that Moubu’s head comes up to roughly Kanmei’s eyes,

Which would mean the top of Kanmei’s head comes up to, roughly, Shibashou’s Fucking neck. Literally this dude is fucking enormous.

You might ask yourself why Shibashou’s name is not as well known as Kanmei’s if Shibashou is larger than him, but recall that Shibashou is a sleeping tiger. He has not fought for Zhao on a grand scale like Kanmei has done for Chu.

Somebody asked me for a height scaling on Shibashou and I’m glad I did this, because Shibashou looks taller than Kanmei, and significantly.

I invite anybody to debunk my height scaling, I know this shit isn’t 100% consistent but for the most part I think this is how Hara intends to show how huge Shibashou actually is.

@MarineHQ @Owl Ki @God Buggy @TheKnightOfTheSea @Greenbeard @FutureWarrior123 @Blackbeard @SakazOuki @RayanOO @Topi Jerami @Dark Admiral etc….
 
sbs deserve it
he is the most teased and hyped by hara before his first intro.
also on top this he is a solid 3goz.
unlike hoken who hold that title as just excuse for his character to exist in battlefield .
....
so true 2 3goz in the same field
this the first time in the manga
also this the first time for Zhao to have 2 gg in same battlefield as well.

as i said i don't count hoken.
....

we will witness epic arc soon.
2 gg of qin vs 2 gg of zhaou

:cheers:
 
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The irony in this post is thick seeing as how neither one of us insulted you before you started hurling insults and derogatives left and right lmfao
What irony? You were rude in your response.
Is that a joke? You going to disregard every ounce of portrayal screaming that this guy is one of the strongest warriors in the entire manga because he hasn’t actually fought on panel yet? What kind of meme shit is this?

-Riboku: “I tried to make this guy a 3GH
-Kanmei tier in size
-Spooked off Yan’s best Great General with a 4:1 disadvantage
-Has monstrous warrior generals as subordinates who like like children in comparison to him

Oh but we have to disregard all that because his only feat is cracking a tile? Is this a joke?
And then you doubled down by co-signing @Owl Ki post that was literally just an unprovoked insult and wasting my time with your deflections.
Rumble is a sourpuss that tries comically hard to be way too serious and whines about folk being excited. Just ignore the bloke. Lol.
You two literally started this shit, and now you're acting outraged because I had the temerity to answer rudeness with rudeness? If you're not comfortable in the mud, don't sling it. It's that simple.

I asked you how Shibashou wank was taken out of context, and you literally offered no argument at all. All you did was cite a quote of mine that you found obnoxious and then started throwing out insults left and right lol.
Context wasn't the issue at any point, I don't know what you are on about with that. I think you're confused.

The only disagreement I had was the degree to which people were hyping up SBS. That's it.

So you asked me to prove a point I’ve already proven, and then when I asked you to prove your counter-claim you got ultra butthurt for no reason whatsoever and continued to insult me lol. Well I don’t think you’ve earned a real response, and I don’t think you can refute a single thing I’ve said but I’ll give you something to look at anyway:
This emotional babble.

SBS is not bigger than Ran Kai. That's for definite.

He's likely not bigger than Buddha or Zenou, so that's another two.

Gai Mou, Man'U and Kan Mei are likely as big or bigger.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
@Elder Lee Hung I remember you saying you thought that one person might be bigger than SBS. Who was it out of interest? Lol.
I thought it was Kanmei but really looking at those heights I think Shibashou is taller. How much taller? Idk, these panels aren’t always consistent and size can be exaggerated or shown at different angles for dramatic effect, but I do clearly think Shibashou is taller than Kanmei by some amount.

Rankai might be taller than Shibashou but Rankai literally is not even of the same species as Shibashou lmfao. And if I go back and look at Zenou in detail or Rozo or some of those other giant mofos, idk, they might be similar to him in height but I do not recall ever being as floored by a character’s height as I am by Shibashou lol. There is a serious change that he is just straight up the largest character we’ve met until this point.

Hara seriously has a violent respect for the Three Great Heavens. He gave Riboku the biggest brain, he gave Houken the pinnacle of martial ability, he gave Renpa the best all-around stats in the manga, and now (imo) he’s introducing Shibashou as one of the absolute biggest giants in the series.

I recall reading somewhere that when the Warring states era started, the dynasty that would later become Zhao had conquered 75% of China’s landmass before fragmenting and beginning the warring states era. I think Hara really gave Zhao the pride of that original dynasty, it’s clear he seriously respects Zhao a lot imo, and Shibashou is the most recent example of that.
 
What irony? You were rude in your response.


And then you doubled down by co-signing @Owl Ki post that was literally just an unprovoked insult and wasting my time with your deflections.


You two literally started this shit, and now you're acting outraged because I had the temerity to answer rudeness with rudeness? If you're not comfortable in the mud, don't sling it. It's that simple.



Context wasn't the issue at any point, I don't know what you are on about with that. I think you're confused.

The only disagreement I had was the degree to which people were hyping up SBS. That's it.



This emotional babble.

SBS is not bigger than Ran Kai. That's for definite.

He's likely not bigger than Buddha or Zenou, so that's another two.

Gai Mou, Man'U and Kan Mei are likely as big or bigger.
:kobeha:
Damn man it’s just a Japanese cartoon chill out lmao. People can get hyped in the moment, what’s the big deal? You literally trying to police other people’s reactions like they made an offense or something, why care so much?
 
And then you doubled down by co-signing @Owl Ki post that was literally just an unprovoked insult and wasting my time with your deflections.


You two literally started this shit, and now you're acting outraged because I had the temerity to answer rudeness with rudeness? If you're not comfortable in the mud, don't sling it. It's that simple.
Wait, sourpuss is what got your knickers in a twist? You're kidding, right? You responded to being called a grouchy grump with "fruity, bitch-made, mental midget"?

Honestly, that's just kinda funny. If you're legitimately upset about it though, just report my arse to the Mods and see what happens. Lol.
 
You two literally started this shit, and now you're acting outraged because I had the temerity to answer rudeness with rudeness? If you're not comfortable in the mud, don't sling it. It's that simple.
Not to gang up on you, but you have responded with negative energy and insults in the past completely unprovoked. Like when I had my post detailing my thoughts on Kanki's character and you calling it funny and stupid lol.

Haven't seen anything like that recently to your credit. But I highly doubt Lee Hung's post was anything meant to be purposely insulting to be honest, lol. He just talks in a very informal comedic way, cause unlike the OP section, everyone here is chill.
 
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