Is Bleach Better than Kingdom?


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Peroroncino

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I might feel bad for Riboku if that fella of his turns on him like some are theorizing lol

He has had a theme of bad luck and unfortunate turns throughout the series

I still have not forgiven Zhao clown nobles for politicing Renpa from helping Zhao forever despite how much of an asset he is

Not to mention what happened with the king's heir
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excuse me sir, the Zhao nobles are Qin's greatest champions
 
Where the spoilers at? :kriwhat:
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Okay just caught to chapter 798. So where was Liboku's crazy trap that the author was hyping? Or was he just hyping Liboku?
 
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TheKnightOfTheSea

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after a reread, genuinely dropping this shit. Don't tag me in this section anymore.

Hango was probably the last arc of Kingdom above a 2/10.

Kouen's reveal, Riboku's death, the SHK stuff, the Wei stuff, all the things I've been looking forward to are going to be complete rushed dogshit.

manga's just going to get worse and worse

Hara apparently forgot that formations existed, so now every war is going to be a rushed mess with terrible paneling.

Hara ruined Ousen, Shin, Ouhon and Yotanwa in the same arc. Genuinely an Oda level feat.
 
after a reread, genuinely dropping this shit. Don't tag me in this section anymore.

Hango was probably the last arc of Kingdom above a 2/10.

Kouen's reveal, Riboku's death, the SHK stuff, the Wei stuff, all the things I've been looking forward to are going to be complete rushed dogshit.

manga's just going to get worse and worse

Hara apparently forgot that formations existed, so now every war is going to be a rushed mess with terrible paneling.

Hara ruined Ousen, Shin, Ouhon and Yotanwa in the same arc. Genuinely an Oda level feat.
It's not Kingdom has lowered that much Tkots. RoT raised your standards. You can't like average stuff anymore, God what have i done:willight:
 

Elder Lee Hung

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after a reread, genuinely dropping this shit. Don't tag me in this section anymore.

Hango was probably the last arc of Kingdom above a 2/10.

Kouen's reveal, Riboku's death, the SHK stuff, the Wei stuff, all the things I've been looking forward to are going to be complete rushed dogshit.

manga's just going to get worse and worse

Hara apparently forgot that formations existed, so now every war is going to be a rushed mess with terrible paneling.

Hara ruined Ousen, Shin, Ouhon and Yotanwa in the same arc. Genuinely an Oda level feat.
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It ain’t that bad. I’d still give Hango an 8/10. Nobody was ruined, Riboku was just better than Qin. He put them in a situation they couldn’t salvage and capitalized on it.

Advanced formations are not always possible or desirable guys. A standard army is already deployed into combat formation, you don’t always want to break those formations and lines.

That’s the entire concept of a pincer. Facing an army head on is tough because the enemy is lined up in a way that makes them best capable of fighting the army right in front of them. Hitting them from the side or rear eliminates that advantage.

And we literally did see Ousen use the Tiger’s Anguish which was a similar formation to what Gokei used against Duke Hyou.
 
Yotanwa didn't do shit how was she ruined
by doing nothing lol.


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after a reread, genuinely dropping this shit. Don't tag me in this section anymore.

Hango was probably the last arc of Kingdom above a 2/10.

Kouen's reveal, Riboku's death, the SHK stuff, the Wei stuff, all the things I've been looking forward to are going to be complete rushed dogshit.

manga's just going to get worse and worse

Hara apparently forgot that formations existed, so now every war is going to be a rushed mess with terrible paneling.

Hara ruined Ousen, Shin, Ouhon and Yotanwa in the same arc. Genuinely an Oda level feat.

many of you who consider this a bad writing.
you do not consider that its in half day only which means a few hours .

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kingdom didn't get worse
it's just people got to know the reality of ousen.
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I cracked his code since shokai
he was comp vase there but no one wanted to believe
blame yourself
:beckmoji: not hara

but so ous is fkn retard
:gonope:
 

Peroroncino

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by doing nothing lol.


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many of you who consider this a bad writing.
you do not consider that its in half day only which means a few hours .

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kingdom didn't get worse
it's just people got to know the reality of ousen.
:suresure:
I cracked his code since shokai
he was comp vase there but no one wanted to believe
blame yourself
:beckmoji: not hara

but so ous is fkn retard
:gonope:
the reality of ousen is that he sits there and does nothing while rbk sends his goon number 9857608457804th to fight him?
 
the reality of ousen is that he sits there and does nothing while rbk sends his goon number 9857608457804th to fight him?
What a lie lol. Riboku is everywhere. Setting up strategies for every wing, finding weaknesses and passing them down to his generals, joining the battle if necessary and slaying commanders with his own hands, laying out traps etc etc

Riboku is so much superior in versatility it's actually scary.
 

Peroroncino

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What a lie lol. Riboku is everywhere. Setting up strategies for every wing, finding weaknesses and passing them down to his generals, joining the battle if necessary and slaying commanders with his own hands, laying out traps etc etc

Riboku is so much superior in versatility it's actually scary.
all he did was bait shin then sat on his ass while sbs did the job for him
 

Elder Lee Hung

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the reality of ousen is that he sits there and does nothing while rbk sends his goon number 9857608457804th to fight him?
Ousen’s plan was to pull Shin and Ouhon for help. It was Riboku who took that option away from him.

The more I look back on Hango, the more I am okay with the tactics and strategy aspect. Ousen couldn’t come up with a conclusive plan immediately because there were too many unknowns in the Seika army. Meanwhile Riboku acted immediately because he had near perfect intel.

My issues with Hango are the emotional moments being weird or contrived. I give zero shits about Sou’Ou and Shiryu. The more Hara keeps them around, the more I will start to resent their panel time. I also don’t care much about Kititty and Heki, though their panel time has been pretty brief.
 

Peroroncino

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This battle yes. I was talking about all his feats since Gyou.

This battle was not about RBK anyways, but he even got a nice "feat" with his speech which rallied Seika like a King would.

Hara just loves gassing this man
talk no jutsu is not a feat for me. He used no formations no tactics nothing, he made shin chase was the closest thing to a tactic he used then he did nothing as sbs literally won against ousen for him.
I thought we were done with htis after he couldnt use houken to fight his battles for him anymore
 
talk no jutsu is not a feat for me. He used no formations no tactics nothing, he made shin chase was the closest thing to a tactic he used then he did nothing as sbs literally won against ousen for him.
I thought we were done with htis after he couldnt use houken to fight his battles for him anymore
Riboku doesn't need to prove anything. This battle was not meant to showcase RBK's skills we've seen all he can do over several battles in the last campaigns.
 

Peroroncino

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Riboku doesn't need to prove anything. This battle was not meant to showcase RBK's skills we've seen all he can do over several battles in the last campaigns.
ofc not, he can only showcase skills if he does something other than send others to get Ws for him
 
after a reread, genuinely dropping this shit. Don't tag me in this section anymore.

Hango was probably the last arc of Kingdom above a 2/10.

Kouen's reveal, Riboku's death, the SHK stuff, the Wei stuff, all the things I've been looking forward to are going to be complete rushed dogshit.

manga's just going to get worse and worse

Hara apparently forgot that formations existed, so now every war is going to be a rushed mess with terrible paneling.

Hara ruined Ousen, Shin, Ouhon and Yotanwa in the same arc. Genuinely an Oda level feat.
Not to dismiss your criticism but I don't feel like Hara ruined the series with Hango, it's an arc that definitely could have been done better but it's nowhere near the trainwreck that was Gian.

Ousen facing off against SBS/Riboku in relative numbers, the match-ups between their vassals (Akou vs Gakushou, Shiryuu vs Ji Aga/Kan Saro, etc.), SBS reaching Ousen's hq and killing Akou were all great moments imo. Hara also did a great job at giving the Seika army so much personality, plenty of moments where I was at the edge of my seat while reading.

I do agree that Shin/Ouhon and YTW were poorly handled, Shin especially. As for the lack of formations, I geuss Hara didn't want to bother with a similar situation like at the Shukai plains where the Zhao commanders had to find a way to bypass Akou's Shells formation since Hara was already planning on having SBS reach Ousen anyway, and as @Lee Ba Shou pointed out, Ousen did use the Tiger formation.

Overall not Hara's best campaign but not terribly bad either, probably a 6/10 for me.
 
ofc not, he can only showcase skills if he does something other than send others to get Ws for him
You're hardcore coping. He owned Ousen as a general so hard during Shukai it was scary. Ousen was the one sitting around doing nothing while Riboku lead every single battlefield.
He literally looked into the future to fuck over Kanki which he then did.

Mr. I trust in you Shin is not even a fitting comparison.
 

Peroroncino

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You're hardcore coping. He owned Ousen as a general so hard during Shukai it was scary. Ousen was the one sitting around doing nothing while Riboku lead every single battlefield.
He literally looked into the future to fuck over Kanki which he then did.

Mr. I trust in you Shin is not even a fitting comparison.
i dont care about agenda in kingdom or Ls and Ws, the only reason i stan qin here is cause i know they'll win in the end.
But rbk and ousen are the historical rivals and yet every one of their battles ends with either houken or sbs doing the gran finale for rbk
 
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