Is Bleach Better than Kingdom?


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He is the right hand man of the number one general in Han, highly probably EDIT: definitely a general himself, and seemingly inarguably the strongest warrior in Han.

Shin slaying the best warrior in Han >>> Shin being gifted Tou’s sloppy seconds in the form of Enkan 2.0.



Hara capped Yoko Yoko as a general, but never as a warrior. This 7 foot tall hulk can really be as strong or as weak as Hara wants him to be, and that makes for a far more interesting and entertaining opponent than Hakuokoku who already does not seem very interesting as a Shin antagonist.



Experience is great but there is no amount of experience that will make En Heavenly King level. There is no amount of experience that will make a character who has very probably already reached the peak of his abilities as a general like Rokuomi transcend the level he’s currently at (strong general) and ascend him to the level of the Heavenly Kings (great general caliber).



You can just assume that Rokuomi can learn new strategies, but Hara has always put limits on the amount and complexity of information that characters know.

Take Akou for example. He spent decades with Ousen. Yet, Akou was only capable of utilizing some of Ousen’s tactics. Why couldn’t Akou learn all of Ousen’s tactics? Well, because Hara said he can’t. Hara placed a limit on Akou’s IQ to prevent him from learning literally all of Ousen’s tactics.

So you can assume Rokuomi can learn new strategies but what benefit does that provide him? Is the simple-minded Rokuomi, who Hara turned into a gag for his hard-headed, more simple-minded nature, going to learn strategies that cause him to completely transcend his level as a strong general? The answer is no.



My causal link is that I have consistently proven the entirety of the Kingdom fandom wrong with my correct takes lol. I have methodology but I don’t feel like getting into that right now lol.

In my comment I said that the benefits that Rokuomi and En would gain would be proportional to what they represent in the central core (Qin).

Knowing that Rokuomi is a much more important figure than En for the unification of China, the amount of benefits he will receive will be significantly greater than that of En, and MAYBE be enough for Rokuomi to have the CHANCE of reaching the Heavenly Kings .

As En represents much less in that cosmology (which is a cult of strength) the benefits you will receive will be insufficient to ascend to the level of Celestial Kings.

I don't think En is a good example to use in an analogy, as it doesn't have the degree of representation of Rokuomi in Qin.

The limits that the author imposes on a character are directly linked to the way that same author intends to work with them in an event.
The characters' levels must adapt to the events that Hara wants to represent in his poetic instance, for this reason Akou did not try to improve his strategic skills, since to carry out the situations he participated in he needed to have that level of skills.

In a scenario where Akou was less impulsive, Hara wouldn't be able to represent a crushing Shibashou victory the way it was.

Knowing that the characters' limits are deeply related to the events that the author wants to express, in an event that requires an absurd evolution of the Pillars of Qin, Rokuomi can extrapolate its known limits.
The events to be expressed dictate the characters' pattern of operation.
 
Chapter Title: Breaking the Balance

The battle between Qin and Han begins.

The newcomers from Qin are terrified and killed, then the infantry unit advances, followed by the Hi Shin Unit, the Red Hyou, and the Black Hyou. After them, the leaders of the Hi Shin Army appear to save them.

A unit that seems to be highly skilled in combat from the Han Army appears and begins its assault. The great Han generals, Raku and Haku Koko, also appear.

A small flashback shows Tou with the Qin army leaders as they prepare the plan. The Qin army leaders Rokumi and "the bearded man whose name I forgot" appear, and suddenly, Shin advances to the battlefield. Raku Akan appears, speaking about Shin.

In the final frame, Tou is looking at the battlef
ield and says…
 
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All credit to Saemoon the GOAT.

Saemoon said:
Chapter Title: Breaking the Deadlock

Both sides call out for the battle to commence while Haku’ou Koku orders the first wave to attack. After the initial engagement, Ten has their second wave get ready and Haku’ou Koku orders his second wave to move out. Just as Tou said, the Han army has not fought a large scale battle in many years, so their strength is wrapped in mystery. From the Han side, as well, they were unsure how strong the Qin army, which built up its strength on the battlefield, truly was. As the battle begins, the Han army implemented well organized military tactics and the Qin army could not conceal their shock. The rank and file start losing their nerve and think they’ll be slaughtered.

Kanto and his squad leaders step up to take the lead and tell the lower ranks to keep fighting. The other units are engaged in heavy fighting with Suugen personally taking the field to return the momentum to their side. As this fighting continues, the soldiers of Han become overwhelmed by their surprise at how strong the Qin army is. Two Han officers, Sa’u and General Teiko, regain control of their men by reminding them that the experienced soldiers on Qin’s side can’t fully make up for the inexperienced rookies. They order their cavalry to swing behind the veterans and target those rookies to reduce Qin’s numbers. They further expressly order their troops not to engage Qin’s veteran soldiers. Ten’s advisors note that they’ve lost momentum but still hold the upper hand. However, Ten says that’s not enough.

During the flashback, Tou discusses with the officers how the armies are evenly matched in a normal fight. Ryuukoku asks if this means if they can score an overwhelming victory by fighting in an unusual way, but Tou says an overwhelming victory will be difficult and they will have to spill a lot of blood to win on Eitei Plains. Ten and Rokuomi bring up the fact that they can’t afford to lose too many soldiers as they need to prepare for the next attack on Zhao. Ryuukoku adds that they will also need quite a few soldiers to stay behind to control Shintei after they take it. Rokuomi asks how they should fight, and Tou tells them to have all the officers join the fight early on to end the battle before Han can seize any momentum. Ryuukoku is concerned about the risk of losing officers early in the battle, but Tou says if they don’t do this then they won’t be able to fight their way to Shintei.

Back at the fight, all three of Tou’s generals join the fight while Shin also takes to the frontlines. The Hi Shin Unit is worried that Shin has joined the fight too early, but Ten says that Shin and the others will have to personally take out more enemies than usual to break the deadlock between the armies. Raku’a Kan acknowledges that Tou’s choice to fight like this is correct since they must minimize losses here in order to take down Shintei after this. However, he wonders why Tou has chosen to personally remain at the very rear of the Qin army. Raku’a Kan knows that Tou is not afraid of joining the battle, so he’s contemplating what Tou is targeting. At Tou’s HQ, he receives word that all of his officers have moved out and are engaged with enemy. As Tou looks out at the battle, he calls for 10 cavalry to come with him as he will be leaving his HQ for a bit.

Tagline: Next chapter, where is Tou heading…?!
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Perfect perfect. We are right on track for Shin to fight and slay Yoko Yoko on day one of this battle. No one cares about Enkan 2.0.

Although it would be interesting if Yoko Yoko refused to engage Shin. There is no reason for Han to immediately go all out and fight Qin this quickly, drawing this battle out will only benefit Han and disadvantage Qin. Let’s see if Rakuakan takes the bait and sends Yoko Yoko out this early or if he’s smart enough to know that a war of attrition is the way to play this.
 
ROM, Kan Ou, Ryuu Koku and Shin all kicked into gear at the same time.

Tou looked up to the sun before he departed.

The flashback alludes to what they're doing: all commanders are going on the offensive at the same time to overwhelm the Han and win it all quickly with minimal casualties.
 
I'm telling y'all.



ROM, Kan Ou, Ryuu Koku and Shin all kicked into gear at the same time.

Tou looked up to the sun before he departed.

The flashback alludes to what they're doing: all commanders are going on the offensive at the same time to overwhelm the Han and win it all quickly with minimal casualties.
Tou tells them to have all the officers join the fight early on to end the battle before Han can seize any momentum. Ryuukoku is concerned about the risk of losing officers early in the battle, but Tou says if they don’t do this then they won’t be able to fight their way to Shintei.
 
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