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Is Bleach Better than Kingdom?


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Riboku just wasted too much time talking with those standies at HQ. He shouldn't have given too much time to Kanki for counter and should've used his special generals/brute monsters like Banaji to crush Kanki.

Now he definitely going to use his attacking power (Banaji and others) to defend.

Also Riboku claiming if Keisha shouldn't had came down than he should be the victorious felt just like the joke that if Ouki shouldn't had taken the bait than Riboku neither would be the most dangerous man nor would be the overhyped general of the series. Lol
 
From Jeeswag in TKC :

Kanki Army:
Kokuou sees that the HSU and the Gakuka made it out on the left and now the only ones defending the HQ are the Heki army at the front and another family that moved to the right to cover that area. Ringyoku's soldiers ask him what they should do as he looks back at Kanki while the soldier is wondering why the boss is not doing anything.

Zhao:
Riboku's soldier asks him what Kanki's weakness is as Riboku watches the Zhao army steadily make their way forward.

Qin:
Heki's soldiers also notice that the HSU and the Gakuka are out and says they should do the same. Heki stops them however and says it'd be too irresponsible of them to leave their position as they are in the honorable position of the center army charged with holding back the enemy. Heki's soldiers look with worry and one of the mountain people says Heki is too naive. Another tribe member says that's not the case because it's because Heki is at the front risking his life that the time Kanki has to come up with a plan is being extended and that it's because of people like him that armies do not easily fall. He then says that a man like Heki is too valuable to lose. They then notice that the Heki army is past their limit and says what they should do now is to make sure Heki makes it out alive otherwise the chief of the Mera tribe will give them hell.

At Kanki's HQ they notice the Zhao has broken through the Heki army and are getting closer. Marron turns to Kanki begging him to make a move because they're all goners if they just sit there. Kanki says it's still fine and says to send the remaining few from the Northern army to the front and a panel shows Marron making a fuss about it.

Zhao:
Riboku's soldiers see that their army is steadily marching towards Kanki's HQ and wonders why they're not seeing any movement from Kanki's HQ. One soldier wonders if there's a purpose to him not moving and Riboku cuts in saying that it's because even if he wants to make a move Kanki simply cannot. Riboku then goes on to talk about Kanki's history of how he started his rise to fame 9 years ago serving under General Mougou in his battle with Renpa. In that battle they saw Kanki leave their HQ and take the head of Genpou. Then at the battle of Kankoku Pass they saw Kanki do the unthinkable and leave his position to take the head of the Han general after coming down. Then at Kokuyou Hills he beat Keisha and even got Kisui to leave to take Kokuyou Hills. Most recently, in the face of the Kochou army who outnumbered his army 3 to 1 he got to Kochou's HQ and took him out to win the battle as well.

Riboku then says that from these 4 battles there lies 1 common theme between all of them. A soldier deduces that it's the "surprise attack" and "unorthodox" and Riboku confirms it. He then continues saying that this also means Kanki has never won a battle in an orthodox way. His soldier says it was because all the situations required something special to turn the tables, especially that battle against Kochou. Riboku agrees but says the Kokuyou Hills battle was different. When the HSU pushed past the Zhao left wing and was in a favorable position to attack the Zhao Kanki did nothing despite how no matter which method of fighting he went with it would have been favorable for the Qin. Just like now, Kanki did nothing and let go of that amazing chance. A soldier says that led to Keisha moving down and getting taken out because of it in the end. Riboku replies that if Keisha chose to stay still and made use of the inaction then the Zhao would have won. No matter what he should have remained to defend the hill instead of going on the attack.

Riboku says that the inaction wasn't because Kanki knew this would happen but rather he didn't know what to do with the situation the HSU presented. Because Kanki has not won a single battle using orthodox methods he knows that Kanki simply just does not know how to fight using those tactics. Kanki was put into battle as soon as he was recruited with no chance to really learn the basics of battle after becoming one of Mougou's arms. Despite this he kept winning his battles and Riboku had no choice but to call him a genius and a monster. However, underneath all of that lies Kanki's weakness of not knowing how to fight other than using unorthodox methods.

As the soldiers stand in shock Riboku says this is why Kanki is unable to move right now. In this situation where he cannot pull any special move he simply doesn't know what to do. He then goes on to say that if there's anything to be careful of it's to make sure they don't make any big moves. In Kochou's case he was basically about to win but moved too far forward and because of that he lost his life. His soldiers asks if that's why Riboku hasn't moved generals like Bananji yet. Riboku says they will use the strength of their numbers to slowly take out the enemy and thru that situation where Kanki won't be able to do anything they will kill him as well.

Qin:
As the Zhao gets closer to Kanki's HQ the soldiers are freaking out telling Marron everything and Marron says he knows and assumes Kanki's still doing nothing but he looks back and realizes Kanki is just looking at the sky. Kanki chuckles then says he has orders to Marron. Marron asks who the orders are for and Kanki replies saying it's for every head of the clans that make up the Kanki army.

Zhao:
Riboku thinks to himself that they almost took out all the enemies who block their way to Kanki's HQ and thinks if Kanki's HQ is going to do anything now is the only chance they have. Then he notices movement in the Kanki HQ and the clans are all scrambling to get into the positions given to them by Kanki while yelling at each other to hurry up and get it right. Riboku's HQ sees this but has no idea what is happening at first. They then realize that the Kanki soldiers are putting themselves into a formation. At Kanki's HQ they confirm one by one that the clans are in their correct positions but when asked what this formation is Marron says he hasn't got a clue. Riboku's soldiers realize Kanki's using some sort of strategy but has no idea what it is because they've never seen or heard of a formation like what Kanki put together before.

No break next week!

lanli the goaaaaaaaaat.


lol Riboku as a character is becoming worse and worse
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Riboku just wasted too much time talking with those standies at HQ. He shouldn't have given too much time to Kanki for counter and should've used his special generals/brute monsters like Banaji to crush Kanki.

Now he definitely going to use his attacking power (Banaji and others) to defend.

Also Riboku claiming if Keisha shouldn't had came down than he should be the victorious felt just like the joke that if Ouki shouldn't had taken the bait than Riboku neither would be the most dangerous man nor would be the overhyped general of the series. Lol

exactly Riboku is just talking shit
 
Riboku just wasted too much time talking with those standies at HQ. He shouldn't have given too much time to Kanki for counter and should've used his special generals/brute monsters like Banaji to crush Kanki.
To be fair, him (or anybody else) talking to his subordinates is to the benefit of us readers in order for us to understand what is going on. Lol.

Besides, Riboku was convinced that Kanki was fecked regardless and didn't need anything more being done.
Now he definitely going to use his attacking power (Banaji and others) to defend.
Isn't better to have Bananji in reserve in order to deal with unexpected bull like what Kanki is whipping out?
Also Riboku claiming if Keisha shouldn't had came down than he should be the victorious felt just like the joke that if Ouki shouldn't had taken the bait than Riboku neither would be the most dangerous man nor would be the overhyped general of the series. Lol
Nah, I do consider there to be a difference here.

If Ouki hadn't of taken the bait (which was less Ouki being baited and more Ouki making a calculated risk that miscalculated a single factor) then Riboku still would have had a massive advantage when he rolled up with a fresh army.

If Keisha hadn't taken the bait, Kanki would have likely been screwed.

The biggest difference between Kanki and Riboku is that Kanki regularly engages in high risk/high reward tactics while Riboku refuses to take any risks and much prefers to shape the battlefield to his liking by stacking every possible advantage to his favour before any fighting has even begun.

Riboku goes out of his way to win battles before they are even fought while Kanki thrives to seize victory in the heat of the moment.
 
To be fair, him (or anybody else) talking to his subordinates is to the benefit of us readers in order for us to understand what is going on. Lol.

Besides, Riboku was convinced that Kanki was fecked regardless and didn't need anything more being done.

Isn't better to have Bananji in reserve in order to deal with unexpected bull like what Kanki is whipping out?

Nah, I do consider there to be a difference here.

If Ouki hadn't of taken the bait (which was less Ouki being baited and more Ouki making a calculated risk that miscalculated a single factor) then Riboku still would have had a massive advantage when he rolled up with a fresh army.

If Keisha hadn't taken the bait, Kanki would have likely been screwed.

The biggest difference between Kanki and Riboku is that Kanki regularly engages in high risk/high reward tactics while Riboku refuses to take any risks and much prefers to shape the battlefield to his liking by stacking every possible advantage to his favour before any fighting has even begun.

Riboku goes out of his way to win battles before they are even fought while Kanki thrives to seize victory in the heat of the moment.
yes u r right and wrong about kanki

if Keisha didn't come down it's not over for Kanki he will just find another way

this wrong and funny statement by Riboku it shows that he don't understand Kanki as he claims and as result this weakness shit is wrong.

Kanki vs kosho from the start he wanted to do that plane sun bin tactic etc
it's not last minute thought.
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Riboku just wasted too much time talking with those standies at HQ. He shouldn't have given too much time to Kanki for counter and should've used his special generals/brute monsters like Banaji to crush Kanki.

Now he definitely going to use his attacking power (Banaji and others) to defend.

Also Riboku claiming if Keisha shouldn't had came down than he should be the victorious felt just like the joke that if Ouki shouldn't had taken the bait than Riboku neither would be the most dangerous man nor would be the overhyped general of the series. Lol
Lol as he said he would have made the same mistake as Kochou

Riboku is more observant, not someone to take risks.
 
To be fair, him (or anybody else) talking to his subordinates is to the benefit of us readers in order for us to understand what is going on. Lol.

Besides, Riboku was convinced that Kanki was fecked regardless and didn't need anything more being done.
First statement is true but still he wasted the great opportunity to finish off Kanki with surprise attack and overwhelming numbers while being overconfident and spending time talking to those standies.


Isn't better to have Bananji in reserve in order to deal with unexpected bull like what Kanki is whipping out?
Keep one or two special generals in reserve but he kept four of them. Isn't it too much wasting of resources.

Or now that he lost his favorite Pokémon, Houken, for surprise attack on enemy generals, now he needs more than one general like Banaji to compensate for Houken's loss.


Nah, I do consider there to be a difference here.

If Ouki hadn't of taken the bait (which was less Ouki being baited and more Ouki making a calculated risk that miscalculated a single factor) then Riboku still would have had a massive advantage when he rolled up with a fresh army.

If Keisha hadn't taken the bait, Kanki would have likely been screwed.

The biggest difference between Kanki and Riboku is that Kanki regularly engages in high risk/high reward tactics while Riboku refuses to take any risks and much prefers to shape the battlefield to his liking by stacking every possible advantage to his favour before any fighting has even begun.

Riboku goes out of his way to win battles before they are even fought while Kanki thrives to seize victory in the heat of the moment.
If Ouki hadn't taken the bait :

- He won't be blocked that bell shape mountain where he couldn't retreat.

- In the plains he could have use variety of tactics to either counter incoming Riboku or retreat.

- If not taking the bait, Ouki using Tou and Rokuomi could have destroyed right at that spot. Other than horses, Riboku or his army was below Ouki's army in every aspect.

Just like Riboku, it's all about wild imaginations with the use of "If" and "But".

As for situation of Keisha and him being moving out or not. If Keisha stayed at hill, Kanki would still have removed Kisui by attacking in his city and weakened Keisha army. Imagine Keisha facing Kanki’s brutal army without Kisui's support...... everyone of Keisha's army would get "chopped decorated head" somewhere in the jungles.
 
Isnt Ribokus analysis wrong . As much as i remever Keisha was waiting for Kanki to make move after HSU's opening..it was trap set up by Keisha and Kanki didnt fell for it..
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Also who knows these formation Kanki might have learned from Ousen himself . Since tgey r working together for decades
Also we dont know his past , may be he had history with one of the previous gemeration GG of qin and copied his formation..
 
Isnt Ribokus analysis wrong . As much as i remever Keisha was waiting for Kanki to make move after HSU's opening..it was trap set up by Keisha and Kanki didnt fell for it..
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Also who knows these formation Kanki might have learned from Ousen himself . Since tgey r working together for decades
Also we dont know his past , may be he had history with one of the previous gemeration GG of qin and copied his formation..
Yeah he just trash talking at this point lol, he's always been good at that
Kanki understood the nature of Keisha pretty fast and baited him, he didn't even consider him a real threat anymore and started to think of a way to take out Kisui which he also managed to do.
Where Riboku is right though is that Kanki likes unorthodox methods.
 
Yeah he just trash talking at this point lol, he's always been good at that
Kanki understood the nature of Keisha pretty fast and baited him, he didn't even consider him a real threat anymore and started to think of a way to take out Kisui which he also managed to do.
Where Riboku i
Riboku is good with formation and i enjoyed it when he fight using formation and no cheat code Houken..
Hara should focus on that , right now he look like a clown..
 
If Ouki hadn't of taken the bait (which was less Ouki being baited and more Ouki making a calculated risk that miscalculated a single factor)
That factor was lethal, though. Riboku had percieved that Ouki would misjudge his army's speed, as (during his planning) he had extensively investigated Ouki's service and had noticed he possessed no combat experience concerning the northen state of Zhao's armies.

Overall, Riboku prepared the entire thing insanely well. Ouki himself said that they had been completely outplayed by the enemy.

(That being said, Riboku and Ouki are close anyway as generals. These top top guys are all close).
 
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I think Kanki will go up in flames like chad. The issue here is Riboku thought he was just gonna roll in, out number him and take his head. Kanki will put up a great tactical/strategic fight and since Riboku's sword Houken is no more they still won't get a clean win.
Remember Riboku great formula is isolating the army supreme commander then unleashing Houken to take him out quickly.
Kanki is rated over 90 if I remember correctly so he won't go down to these commanders easily even in the final moments.
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Kanki's feats have always been superior to Riboku
Lol no they are not. Riboku actually plans the campaigns for his country, both the offensive and defensive campaign. He combines what the GG are doing on the field plus what SHK does in the capital on table tops.
I don't think Kanki can orchestrate the entire military infrastructure of a nation while. I don't even think dudes like Ou Ki and Ren Pa could do it to he honest.
 
Riboku’s rambling about Kanki’s weakness was disappointing lol. No way he thinks Kanki doesn’t know orthodox battle strategy.
Kanki looking at the sky, looking to crush Riboku through his formation was kind of good. But Riboku can easily encircle this formation and put pressure on all parts of Kanki’s formation instead of just the tips to break it I think. Let’s see! Superb chapter
 
I really fear that Riboku's character will be stained by the fact that another GG level fighter will always be the one to bring him the W. Knowing his capabilities we can guess that Riboku can do it but if Hara used Shibashou as a trump card to come in at the utmost crucial moment when Kanki is cornering Riboku which I'm convinced is going to happen then that's ass for Riboku but insanely hype for Shibashou and Kanki.

Kanki is already fighting the most ridiculous battle period. The only one losing here would be Riboku.
 
I really fear that Riboku's character will be stained by the fact that another GG level fighter will always be the one to bring him the W.
That would be the case if a random beast general was to magically jump out of the forest to save Riboku's ass.

Instead, if said general is included inside Riboku's plan (like for Houken), no issues.

The "arguments" for why Riboku is supposedly super overhyped have always been amongst the worst ones in Kingdom.

Hara has given him a certified monster like portrayal and insane feats.

@MarineHQ62 And Kanki is fighting the most ridiculous battle because of Riboku's genius. He is the one who planned the entire thing and set up the conditions to reach this scenario, the scenario he wanted.
 
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