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Riboku's plan had three effects:

- Akou escaped being slayed but he has currently been put in a bad state.
- By having Akou move, Riboku also made Shin move to get him and is now far away, standing there in front of Riboku's fort.
- Since Shin moved to chase him, Ouhon also moved from the reserves to take command of the right wing against Enkan 70k, which is a much larger army than Qin's right.

This way, the center is in this very moment greatly weakened. And this is the moment where he has Shibashou, a 3GH tier general, move out, with his two liutenants - against Qin's center.

If he can keep Shin stalled, and with Ouhon who probably will soon be pressed by Enkan and not be able to move back to assist the center, it will essentially come down to Shibashou + his two fresh liutenants + Gakushou (who is still there) vs Ousen + a severely weakened Akou and a couple more liutenants who can't really compete with Kansaro or Jiaga or Gakushou.

And yes @Elder Lee Hung Riboku continues to be the best brain in China.
 
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Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
@RayanOO i would like to point out that Shin slaying Houken was a precursor to this moment. Riboku knows Shin is the biggest threat for Zhao, so he removes Shin from the battle before sending Mega Houken for Ousen’s booty.

Which from a writing perspective, only works if Houken died long before now and Riboku has had time to see Shin consistently overcome disadvantaged odds.
 
I'm wondering if RBK's strategy won't backfire at him. Sure he removed Shin from the main battlefield (at least temporarily) but RBK also removed himself from the battlefield in the meantime.

It's a given that Hara will hype SBS up but Ousen is also no joke, so it's basically Ousen vs SBS at this point.

SBS and his followers will obviously do a lot of casualties but in the end Ousen should still prevail specially with Ouhon here and Shin can come back at anytime if his instincts kicks in and he decides to just let some men keep watch of that small fort and RBK inside. It won't keep RBK far away for a long time but it might just be enough to get things done.

They can also reverse the trap, I mean if Shin and his troups just abandon the siege, RBK will have to do something, they can trap him in return.

Many scenarios possible here, hopefully Hara will deliver.
 
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I'm wondering if RBK's strategy won't backfire at him. Sure he removed Shin from the main battlefield (at least temporarily) but RBK also removed himself from the battlefield in the meantime.

It's a given that Hara will hype SBS up but Ousen is also no joke, so it's basically Ousen vs SBS at this point.

SBS and his followers will obviously do a lot of casualties but in the end Ousen should still prevail specially with Ouhon here and Shin can come back at anytime if his instincts kicks in and he decides to just let let some men keep watch of that small fort and RBK inside. It won't keep RBK far away for a long time but it might just be enough to get things done.

They can also reverse the trap, I mean if Shin just abandoned and his troups just abandons the siege, RBK will have to do something, they can trap him in return.

Many scenarios possible here, hopefully Hara will deliver.
Ousen San will definitely strike back:cheers:
 

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I'm wondering if RBK's strategy won't backfire at him. Sure he removed Shin from the main battlefield (at least temporarily) but RBK also removed himself from the battlefield in the meantime.

It's a given that Hara will hype SBS up but Ousen is also no joke, so it's basically Ousen vs SBS at this point.

SBS and his followers will obviously do a lot of casualties but in the end Ousen should still prevail specially with Ouhon here and Shin can come back at anytime if his instincts kicks in and he decides to just let some men keep watch of that small fort and RBK inside. It won't keep RBK far away for a long time but it might just be enough to get things done.

They can also reverse the trap, I mean if Shin and his troups just abandon the siege, RBK will have to do something, they can trap him in return.

Many scenarios possible here, hopefully Hara will deliver.
Thats a good point.
If shins instincts dont tell him to return that means ousen can hold off sbs just fine
 
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Chapter summary :

Ok so here we go:

Futei is a bit surprised saying smth like: using that big person right from beginning? (idk if this is rlly accurate since its vague)
Qin soldiers:that s zhao general futei stop him
Futei to Riboku: Its ok go ahead ,i ll delay it (more or less)
Next panel with qin soldiers: that s riboku unit,block them
SHIN: DONT LET HIM ESCAPE,I WONT LET YOU ESCAPE RIBOKU

Ohon adjutant Banyou or whatever: Its fine as it is,dont try to push to much
Ohon:there are problems on left wing,there s discomfort,In response to our movements,their movements on the other side is somehow sluggish,regarding the movements of qin army here
No,in the first place, the left wing of Zhao hasn't reacted at all. Even tough Riboku is being chased.

Panel with enkan,Enkan knew from the very beginning
Ohon is then saying how the curent event of Riboku escaping and so was planned by Riboku

The soldiers are shouting at Akou that enemy army from front has moved
Sou Ou: Finally, you've come... Shall we have a look at your skills? Seika Generals (its possible he s reffering to Sbs since its also something about ''big'' here,but dunno)

Soldiers on Ten side said how they cant see their captain and that Shin pushed probably to deep

Ten toughts: In various locations, traces of battle are appearing. It becomes chaotic,However, the fact that Shin is pursuing means that Riboku is still visible. He has considerably distanced himself from the right wing. Honestly, I thought we would either defeat Riboku much closer or that he would escape


Soldiers of ten: the infantry has caught up in front,but the captains are still far ahead of that (reffering to shin)
Garo and Shin :Damn it just a little more

Riboku plan turned out to be a fort randomly in middle of nowhere with archers


I think its ten screaming: the scale and the height of the wall are not that significant.
hsu rlly tries to attack the wall with ladders


Dumb Ten and Shin : with 10k we can capture this
Back to shin and ten: But, I never thought we would break through the right wing and chase with just 10k thousand. Look at this.
On the contrary,Riboku have no way to escape

Riboku bcs futei is irelevant and im not gonna try to tl that: Unconsciously, he became one of our biggest obstacle. In fact, he has always been a crucial figure in altering the course of the great wars of Qin. Finally, I realized it.

*So after literally 10 yrs of warring with qin riboku finnaly got that Shin is dangerous

Futei:"In that case, I should have hidden my entire army of 30,000 here and taken his head."

Riboku:Even so, I can't assert that we can definitely take it. The Hi Shin Unit, which has overcome adversity many times, and Shin himself, are truly strong. They were able to defeat Piao, the owner of Bu.(i think its reffering to romou hell if i know) Now, if he is the commander of the Qin right side army, of course, we will aim with our full strength, but his head alone is just that of a general.

Sbs soldiers: Lord Sbs is coming to the front
and pretty much this is all


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Holy fuck, and Ousen has had no counter play to this.

Anybody here still doubt that Riboku > Ousen? It’s like you said, Riboku:

1. Wore down Akou himself
2. Removed Shin from the battle
3. Removed Ouhon from the center
4. Has set up Kansaro and Jiaga vs Sou’Ou/Shiryou/Akou, completely opening Ousen up to attack from Shibashou himself

What even has Ousen done so far this battle?

This is quite frankly Riboku demonstrating superior tactics and strategy to Ousen for the 3rd time in a row @Shanks
Lee we have been seeing only Riboku's advances for the time being while none from Ousen and SBS just moves out, so its too early to say anything. We all already knows this as well that in the beginning SBS also going to shine a lot but it's not like Qin ain't going to do anything here in reply and Ousen is there only to watch all this show. He'll be making his moves as well and not just be watching opponent controlling the whole battlefield.

Also knowing Riboku's previous warfares, he surely begins things fancy ways but once Ousen starts his moves he never had any counterattacks.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Lee we have been seeing only Riboku's advances for the time being while none from Ousen
That’s kind of the point isn’t it? The battlefield is already rapidly twisting towards Riboku’s favor while Ousen has done nothing that can match the moves Riboku has made. We are at a major advantage for Riboku because of how Riboku has manipulated the battlefield so far.

Ousen may be able to reverse the tides but that is only because Riboku has removed himself from play for the time being. And even Ousen being able to turn the tides is questionable when Shibashou is about to be on him like Sou’Ou on Shiryou.
 
That’s kind of the point isn’t it? The battlefield is already rapidly twisting towards Riboku’s favor while Ousen has done nothing that can match the moves Riboku has made. We are at a major advantage for Riboku because of how Riboku has manipulated the battlefield so far.

Ousen may be able to reverse the tides but that is only because Riboku has removed himself from play for the time being. And even Ousen being able to turn the tides is questionable when Shibashou is about to be on him like Sou’Ou on Shiryou.
Hara always showed one side making his moves for three or four chapters in the beginning than we see other side start making their counterattacks. Just give it some time and enjoy the show. Narration already clears Qin going to suffer biggest casualties they have seen till now in this war and that is what SBS going to do here. But we don't know who's going to win and what move Ousen going to make here so just wait and watch how it's going to unfold.

The way wars have been showed in the series, its too soon to say Riboku has all the advantages here. Also it's his own home turf. But once Ousen starts his counterattacks, Zhao also going to suffer something or might get into difficult position. Anything is possible with Ousen coz he shows his cards in the end or at time when opponent thinks he has won the whole thing (whether it's in coalition or in Shukai plains a night before center moves out. His calculations and timing are terrifying as well which are outside Riboku's calculations and counterattacks).
 
At least one of Ousen's commander is dying and it isn't Akou imo. I think Sou'Ou is done for. He might actually receive the Shoumou treatment from SBS, at least that's my hope.
Ouhon being forced into a conflict with Enkan.
I don't think Enkan is enough to keep Ouhon occupied there. He has to join the center as well imo. This might be his moment to gain his dad's respect.
Holy fuck, and Ousen has had no counter play to this.

Anybody here still doubt that Riboku > Ousen? It’s like you said, Riboku:

1. Wore down Akou himself
2. Removed Shin from the battle
3. Removed Ouhon from the center
4. Has set up Kansaro and Jiaga vs Sou’Ou/Shiryou/Akou, completely opening Ousen up to attack from Shibashou himself

What even has Ousen done so far this battle?

This is quite frankly Riboku demonstrating superior tactics and strategy to Ousen for the 3rd time in a row @Shanks
Honestly Riboku was always superior in moving the entire battlefield. Ousen is very passive but he strikes at a crucial time and place. Don't count him out yet. This is Ousen after all.
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
@RayanOO i would like to point out that Shin slaying Houken was a precursor to this moment. Riboku knows Shin is the biggest threat for Zhao, so he removes Shin from the battle before sending Mega Houken for Ousen’s booty.

Which from a writing perspective, only works if Houken died long before now and Riboku has had time to see Shin consistently overcome disadvantaged odds.
Yeah maybe

But Shin already fought back Houken twice, killed Fuuki, Rinko, Mangoku, Gaku Ei, Keisha, CGR, fought Gyou’un, killed Rei Ou, was a key piece in all the wars he was in etc

frankly no need to kill Houken for Riboku to know Shin was a menace

Still thinking Shin killing Houken was too soon for him and done in an atrocious way
 
Oh yeah for sure. Especially if Riboku is trapped in his castle, Ousen is free to effect the whole battlefield with no opposition.

But like @Owl Ki said, Riboku can probably just pull a tunnel no jutsu, though this wood free Shin up as well
Knowing RBK he'll dip using a tunnel, let shin take the fortress and lock him up inside by spamming Zhao forces from the outside like always, completely erasing Shin from the battle.
 
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