Controversial General Political Discussion

[Monkey D Theories]

I disagree with illegal immigration. Legal immigration is great when done in sustainable amounts where the people don't create pocket communities that enables them to exist without integrating.

Why do people need to “integrate”

Why can’t people be who they are and everyone just coexist?

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Idk I’ve met some pretty conservative Mexicans in Texas

I am not american, but my experience on the other side is that legal immigrants are some of the most stern defenders of strict border control.
For the simple reason of "if I had to do it legally, why would other get the same rights illegally".

 

[Okamakama]

That's literally the story of immigration to America in the late 19th century and early 20th century.

I don't particularly think America is a paradise, man.

 

[NAMELESS]

That’s even worse, you want to kick the ladder down from people who are just like your parents/ancestors

Illegal immigrants can be all sorts of people.i think figuring out who is who before letting them in is just common sense,no?You want criminals to just have a pass to migrate anywhere they want?that is not how things work.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Idk I’ve met some pretty conservative Mexicans in Texas

Those are texanos. They didn't cross the border, the border crossed them. Usually 1st and 2nd generation mexican americans tend to skew overwhelmingly democratic. Don't take my word for it tho, look at the numbers.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Why do people need to “integrate”

Why can’t people be who they are and everyone just coexist?

Because a country thrives only when there are shared ideals and a sense of community.
Of course, this is unprovable. But when you have giants as Amazon using "diversity" to decrease the possibility of union, you start to see a possible idea why.
https://www.vox.com/recode/23282640...veals-amazons-anti-union-strategies-teamsters

 

[NAMELESS]

I am not american, but my experience on the other side is that legal immigrants are some of the most stern defenders of strict border control.
For the simple reason of "if I had to do it legally, why would other get the same rights illegally".

Its because whenever an illegal immigrant does some stupid shit,these people suffer the consequences too.

 

[Okamakama]

Why do people need to “integrate”

Why can’t people be who they are and everyone just coexist?

Because it's called respect. If I moved to Korea (my wife is half-Korean), I would learn the language (tbh, I'm already learning as it's a distinct possibility due to her inheritance) and integrate. It's being respectful of the land that accepted you in and gave you opportunities your homeland couldn't/didn't. Is that hard to understand? Maybe it's because of my immigrant grandfather that I feel this way, because he installed such values into me at a young age.

 

[NAMELESS]

Because a country thrives only when there are shared ideals and a sense of community.

Exactly,its about common culture.Not race.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Like deadass there are a ton of people on my state who’re immigrants from Latin America that don’t speak English. I honestly don’t give a fuck. It doesn’t harm me.

I think they should speak English, but that’s the government’s fault for not properly funding education. There’s nothing wrong with them in particular.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Because it's called respect. If I moved to Korea (my wife is half-Korean), I would learn the language and integrate. It's being respectful of the land that accepted you in and gave you opportunities your homeland couldn't/didn't. Is that hard to understand? Maybe it's because of my immigrant grandfather that I feel this way, because he installed such values into me at a young age.

As long as you don't commit any crimes you're good. Speak the language you want, those are personal decisions.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I disagree with illegal immigration. Legal immigration is great when done in sustainable amounts where the people don't create pocket communities that enables them to exist without integrating.

Illegal immigration is about as illegal as illegal colonial invasions🤡

 

[Okamakama]

Illegal immigration is about as illegal as illegal colonial invasions🤡

And neither are good.

 

[NAMELESS]

Like deadass there are a ton of people on my state who’re immigrants from Latin America that don’t speak English. I honestly don’t give a fuck. It doesn’t harm me.

I think they should speak English, but that’s the government’s fault for not properly funding education. There’s nothing wrong with them in particular.

The best way to learn a language is to immerse yourself in it.Its their fault too for not integrating.

 

[Okamakama]

As long as you don't commit any crimes you're good. Speak the language you want, those are personal decisions.

You need to know the local language to integrate with the country that accepted you.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Because it's called respect. If I moved to Korea (my wife is half-Korean), I would learn the language (tbh, I'm already learning as it's a distinct possibility due to her inheritance) and integrate.

Didn’t you say you are part south Asian? Dude I promise you that even if you learn the language, there are going to be assholes in Korea who will say the exact same things about you that you are saying about immigrants to Britain.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

You need to know the local language to integrate with the country that accepted you.

If they want to speak whatever language they want at home that's up to them. I still speak Spanish with my sister and parents. That's part of my culture and my kids will learn Spanish as well and speak it at home.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Why do people need to “integrate”

Why can’t people be who they are and everyone just coexist?

Pipe dream
Some cultures don't go well together and they don't have to be forced to. Would all these people leave their homes if they could support themselves and their families at home?! Most people wouldn't go on arduous journeys across deserts and jungles for the slight chance to get a better life in a 'first world' country

 

[Okamakama]

Didn’t you say you are part south Asian? Dude I promise you that even if you learn the language, there are going to be assholes in Korea who will say the exact same things about you that you are saying about immigrants to Britain.

I am part Indian. And I think that is looking down on people. People ascribe 'racism' to many, but I have rarely met someone who was racist against someone who actually integrates and respects the culture they're in. Racism is born from a lack of understanding and integrating will create that understanding. I'm not afraid.

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If they want to speak whatever language they want at home that's up to them. I still speak Spanish with my sister and parents. That's part of my culture and my kids will learn Spanish as well and speak it at home.

At home it's fine, bro. It's outside. We have people in the UK who cannot speak English and we now require GP practices to have Urdu speakers in poorer communities because they REFUSE to learn the language.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Illegal immigrants can be all sorts of people.i think figuring out who is who before letting them in is just common sense,no?You want criminals to just have a pass to migrate anywhere they want?that is not how things work.

Why are countries that are basically founded on illegal immigration of criminals among those with the strictest immigration control?