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I don't know the history of everything, but what about the CNT FAI?
Also the leninist governement was created by taking power away from the soviets, which were worker run democratic councils, so yeah the USSR was undemocratic, but the USSR came to be by taking power away from an already democratic socialist model, didn't it?
Not that the USSR was socialist since it imposed state capitalism where the bureaucrat had the same function that a capitalist does in a free market, since they owned and managed the means of production, not the workers,
I'm not sure how I would sum it up better than I did above but I would like to add this quote from the writing version of the video above
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After the Bolsheviks slaughtered the strikers, they went on to smear the Kronstadt sailors and all those who took part in the mass demonstrations as being inside plotters who were trying to coup the government. Once more, anarchism is associated with the revolutionary demands of socialism by Lenin when he calls the worker revolts “petty-bourgeois,” “syndicalist,” “anarchist” “caused in part by the entry into the ranks of the Party of elements which had still not completely adopted the Communist world view.”
But the reality of the matter did not escape the people. During the years of 1921–1922 would come the first of two enormous spikes in suicide rates among communists in Russia. In 1923, M. Reisner[17] wrote:
By 1923, even Lenin recognized that the dream of socialism had died in Russia and that it was the fault of the bureaucratic domination of the workers. Maurice Meisner,[18] in a work which we will use extensively in the next part of this essay, recounts this story:
In these same deathbed reflections, Lenin said he was “guilty before the workers of Russia” for having not warned them about the ruthless concentration of power sooner. Of course, it would not have mattered if he had told them or not. As soon as the first decrees by Lenin had been issued which allowed the state to nationalize anything which could be deemed pertinent to the state, he had, himself, set the stage to destroy the revolution. It is cold comfort to the martyred workers that he lamented those mistakes."
Also the leninist governement was created by taking power away from the soviets, which were worker run democratic councils, so yeah the USSR was undemocratic, but the USSR came to be by taking power away from an already democratic socialist model, didn't it?
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Not that the USSR was socialist since it imposed state capitalism where the bureaucrat had the same function that a capitalist does in a free market, since they owned and managed the means of production, not the workers,
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I'm not sure how I would sum it up better than I did above but I would like to add this quote from the writing version of the video above
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After the Bolsheviks slaughtered the strikers, they went on to smear the Kronstadt sailors and all those who took part in the mass demonstrations as being inside plotters who were trying to coup the government. Once more, anarchism is associated with the revolutionary demands of socialism by Lenin when he calls the worker revolts “petty-bourgeois,” “syndicalist,” “anarchist” “caused in part by the entry into the ranks of the Party of elements which had still not completely adopted the Communist world view.”
But the reality of the matter did not escape the people. During the years of 1921–1922 would come the first of two enormous spikes in suicide rates among communists in Russia. In 1923, M. Reisner[17] wrote:
It’s hardest of all for the revolutionary romantics. The vision of a golden age unfolded so close to them. Their hearts burned out [...]. And sad stories are circulating. Here, one of our war heroes went home and shot himself. He couldn’t stand vile little squabbles any longer. One drop and the cup overflowed.
By 1923, even Lenin recognized that the dream of socialism had died in Russia and that it was the fault of the bureaucratic domination of the workers. Maurice Meisner,[18] in a work which we will use extensively in the next part of this essay, recounts this story:
Less than five years after the Russian Revolution, Lenin pondered why the new Soviet order had quickly become so bureaucratic and oppressive. On his deathbed he somberly concluded that he had witnessed the resurrection of the old czarist bureaucracy to which the Bolsheviks “had given only a Soviet veneer.” Lenin’s worst fears were soon realized with the massive bureaucratization of the Soviet state and society during the Stalinist era, and the unleashing of what Isaac Deutscher called “an almost permanent orgy of bureaucratic violence.”
In these same deathbed reflections, Lenin said he was “guilty before the workers of Russia” for having not warned them about the ruthless concentration of power sooner. Of course, it would not have mattered if he had told them or not. As soon as the first decrees by Lenin had been issued which allowed the state to nationalize anything which could be deemed pertinent to the state, he had, himself, set the stage to destroy the revolution. It is cold comfort to the martyred workers that he lamented those mistakes."
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When a democracy is ruled for decades by the far-right it shares same features. With that said, Russia has recently entered a more authoritarian phase with the full war against Ukraine. Meanwhile Netanyahu did the same with the wars and massacres all over the place, but he couldn't pass the new laws against the judges. He was held back by daddy yankee until 3 weeks ago. Both governments despite having differences of interests share enough values in common.
I don't think you can talk about anything bub.
I know I said to people who defended Trump or Elon or their friends here, not to dare complain.
This was my anger in front of the situation talking. It's ok for you to feel desesperate in front of the situation, just like us.
Do not listen to those who are mocking you or screaming (legitimately) at you because you made the (truly) wrong choice. Seek for people on the left who tried to talk you out from the grasp of conservatists like I did. We are a few. We usually understand what it takes to question our entire ideology because we were like you before that. So we will not block you out if you are ready to make GREAT efforts of understanding.
This was my anger in front of the situation talking. It's ok for you to feel desesperate in front of the situation, just like us.
Do not listen to those who are mocking you or screaming (legitimately) at you because you made the (truly) wrong choice. Seek for people on the left who tried to talk you out from the grasp of conservatists like I did. We are a few. We usually understand what it takes to question our entire ideology because we were like you before that. So we will not block you out if you are ready to make GREAT efforts of understanding.
Not at all.
This is a reaction to posts that I've seen around on the radical left on social networks. Mostly posts aimed at people who voted for Trump and are now understanding the problem. (especially one about a mother who is now starting to understand that her vote was directed to a politic (the end of USAID) that will impact her daughter's future and probably make her homeless). Posts that are similar to the ones I did by expressing my anger here.
I'm simply nuancing the anger and showing that while, yes, we are (legitimately) angry at people who did that. There is still room to join us pass this anger.
This is a reaction to posts that I've seen around on the radical left on social networks. Mostly posts aimed at people who voted for Trump and are now understanding the problem. (especially one about a mother who is now starting to understand that her vote was directed to a politic (the end of USAID) that will impact her daughter's future and probably make her homeless). Posts that are similar to the ones I did by expressing my anger here.
I'm simply nuancing the anger and showing that while, yes, we are (legitimately) angry at people who did that. There is still room to join us pass this anger.
Bro.....come on you're not this stupid....basically all the things Trump/Elon are doing are things Trump campaigned on, if i was in the USA and i had voted for Trump i'd be happy cuz he's kinda keeping the promises, now whether the things he's doing are going to be beneficial or not for the economy & the population, it's an entirely different discussion but remember that he said clealy what he was gonna do, and he's kinda doing it, so it's not like the people that foted for him rn are like ' oh shit is this what they meant by getting rid of immigrants, DEI, cut government spending ? I thought they were kidding!! Shame on me! ', again you could debate the fact that these things are good or bad for the economy however you want but that doesn't change the fact that people knew what they voted for, and they're getting what they voted for so for them that's a win scenario...