Controversial General Political Discussion

[NAMELESS]

The context of westerners being so far removed from conflicts they don't understand how wars and casualties work
specifically it's reddit armchair generals who think IDF can go in (without air support) and magically kill only terrorists and 0 civilians

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@NAMELESS Seems like they are using German Shepherds to sniff out the tunnels

hum...it seems the search for those tunnels will take a while.Gaza is small,but there are some many of them.Are they going to gas those tunnels?

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Maybe Bibi will ride carue into the middle of gaza and Conricus will KO Deif to get all the hostages back.

Fuckin idiots. The ceasefire is in no way a parallel to a damned cartoon

pretty sure he was talking about people being naive and expecting a war with no civilian loses

 

[NikaInParis]

Netanyahu's psychiatrist killed himself and left a very unambiguous note blaming Netanyahu on his suicide.


Imagine the level of depraved shit this guy must have listened to before he decided enough was enough

 

[Fn Lucci]

pretty sure he was talking about people being naive and expecting a war with no civilian loses

In case you don't remember the scenes of Vivi being horrified by the fighting, Luffy mentions on this very same page that the situation is between fighting forces. Saying this speaks to a disproportionate amount of civilian casualty is worse than naive so don't you be a fucking clown too

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Netanyahu's psychiatrist killed himself and left a very unambiguous note blaming Netanyahu on his suicide.


Imagine the level of depraved shit this guy must have listened to before he decided enough was enough

Apparently it was in 2010?

 

[NAMELESS]

In case you don't remember the scenes of Vivi being horrified by the fighting, Luffy mentions on this very same page that the situation is between fighting forces. Saying this speaks to a disproportionate amount of civilian casualty is worse than naive so don't you be a fucking clown too

i think you are acting like a bitch now just for the sake of it...whatever...

 

[Fn Lucci]

i think you are acting like a bitch now just for the sake of it...whatever...

No you're right. Tell me more ways Oda has explained the false ideologies of the world using flamboyant shapeshifters and dogs that turn into bazookas.

 

[NAMELESS]

No you're right. Tell me more ways Oda has explained the false ideologies of the world using flamboyant shapeshifters and dogs that turn into bazookas.

chill out

 

[Roo]

For those who think this is a genocide, were the Dresden bombing a genocide?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II

 

[NikaInParis]

For those who think this is a genocide, were the Dresden bombing a genocide?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II

Yes

 

[Roo]

Yes

At least you’re consistent, tho being ahistorical

 

[NikaInParis]

At least you’re consistent, tho being ahistorical

Planned killing of a massive number of civilians being a genocide isn't really that hard to grasp.

You being consistent in your disregard for human life isn't reassuring.

You think those hundreds of tons of bombs were meant to precisely pick out military targets?

And again, ahistorical is a stretch considering that the bombing was scrutinized but, guess who writes history? The answer is the winners, in case you missed that day of school

 

[Fn Lucci]

chill out

Lol I don't actually want you to feel attacked just because I think the point is dumb as shit. But I guess it depends on how seriously you believe it.

For those who think this is a genocide, were the Dresden bombing a genocide?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II

That depends: what do you think is the most succinct way to explain the goal of the Dresden bombings?

 

[NAMELESS]

For those who think this is a genocide, were the Dresden bombing a genocide?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II

war crime,dude.

 

[Roo]

Planned killing of a massive number of civilians being a genocide isn't really that hard to grasp.

Yet most historians agreed Genocide is a contentious topic. You’re the one making something extremely complex simple

You being consistent in your disregard for human life isn't reassuring.

It’s called being rational and not emotional. Unless you’re actually out there being killed grow the fuck up. You can step back and have a more logical approach to a discussion like a grown adult.

You think those hundreds of tons of bombs were meant to precisely pick out military targets?

I mean, most people seemed to agree that was the case in Dresden

And again, ahistorical is a stretch considering that the bombing was scrutinized but, guess who writes history? The answer is the winners, in case you missed that day of school

It is scrutinized but I’ve never seen anyone call it a genocide because it is widely agreed that it isn’t. The worst I’ve seen it’s a war crime.

And no history is not written by the victors, that is some corny ass quote. History is written by historians who record what’s going around the world. The Armenian genocide is widely known, by your logic the Armenians “won”?

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That depends: what do you think is the most succinct way to explain the goal of the Dresden bombings?

Cripple the Germans’ manufacturing and logistics

 

[Fn Lucci]

And no history is not written by the victors, that is some corny ass quote. History is written by historians who record what’s going around the world. The Armenian genocide is widely known, by your logic the Armenians “won”?

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Cripple the Germans’ manufacturing and logistics

Right. And I think there are a fair number of reasons I wouldn't be quick to use the term genocide even if I find the casualty count completely disgusting. But then this was also well before my lifetime so I can't possibly feel the same way about it as I do Gaza.

And history is written by the victors. Armenia? You might have a good political, historical group of friends but I assure you that many collective societies and demographics don't begin to give a flying fuck about that genocide. Despite the presence of Armenians in California and such. That's an L.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

The context of westerners being so far removed from conflicts they don't understand how wars and casualties work
specifically it's reddit armchair generals who think IDF can go in (without air support) and magically kill only terrorists and 0 civilians

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@NAMELESS Seems like they are using German Shepherds to sniff out the tunnels

The state of Israel was created by an ethnic cleansing, many of the victims of which were forced into Gaza.

This is why terrorism exists in Gaza. Until Israel can compensate for the crimes it has committed against the Palestinians, terrorism will always exist in Gaza.

 

[Roo]

. But then this was also well before my lifetime so I can't possibly feel the same way about it as I do Gaza.

and here’s what I’m challenging. You can’t just call something genocide just because you feel it is one. This is like calling someone a communist or a Nazi because they vote democrat or republican.

And history is written by the victors. Armenia? You might have a good political, historical group of friends but I assure you that many collective societies and demographics don't begin to give a flying fuck about that genocide. Despite the presence of Armenians in California and such. That's an L.

The point is not wether someone cares or not, the point what happened to the Armenians is well known because historians recorded it. The phrase history is written by the victors is outright false.

 

[Fn Lucci]

and here’s what I’m challenging. You can’t just call something genocide just because you feel it is one. This is like calling someone a communist or a Nazi because they vote democrat or republican.



The point is not wether someone cares or not, the point what happened to the Armenians is well known because historians recorded it. The phrase history is written by the victors is outright false.

I don't just take that phrase to mean how much we know but how much power the information has. Trump is at the height of popularity and is unlikely to ever feel an effect of abandoning the Kurds. He's like the avatar of shooing away losers as dead weight

 

[Roo]

I don't just take that phrase to mean how much we know but how much power the information has. Trump is at the height of popularity and is unlikely to ever feel an effect of abandoning the Kurds. He's like the avatar of shooing away losers as dead weight

Well tbf seemingly nobody gives a fuck about the Kurds

 

[Fn Lucci]

Well tbf seemingly nobody gives a fuck about the Kurds

That's what I mean, they're losers in the sense that there's no incentive or personal tie to make people feel obligated. 1400 dead in Israel, 14 billion dollars. Everyone else? Fuck em, Israel needs all that and more.

 

[Roo]

That's what I mean, they're losers in the sense that there's no incentive or personal tie to make people feel obligated. 1400 dead in Israel, 14 billion dollars. Everyone else? Fuck em, Israel needs all that and more.

Plenty of people care about the Palestinians tho, I’m pretty sure Gaza is the region that gets the most aid out of any in the world.

Now that you mention the Kurds, it is ironic so many of these nations claim to be pro Palestine yet are the same who commit war crimes against the Kurds in their borders( Syria & Iraq for one)

let’s you know this is all one game of political chess and people like the Palestinians and Kurds are means to an end