Controversial General Political Discussion

[Haoshoku]

@Haoshoku @NikaInParis

What wokeism does to a man, parroting with presentism

Just admit that you’re @TheAncientCenturion and I wouldn’t even bother responding lol.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

What wokeism does to a man, parroting with presentism

Just admit that you’re @TheAncientCenturion and I wouldn’t even bother responding lol.

Did you even watch the video?

 

[Haoshoku]

Did you even watch the video?

Some people from amongst the Sufi mystics and others like some of the Ottoman Jannisaries (not allowed to marry from what I remember) were known for drifting that way or composing literature containing that. Some of the said Sufi mystics went too far theologically and were considered to be far outside of traditional religious norms anyway.

All this to say what tho TAC?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Some of the said Sufi mystics went too far theologically and were considered to be far outside of traditional norms anyway.

Were considered by whom? Who thought the aforementioned groups ''went too far''? Is this just your opinion or who else shares it?

 

[Haoshoku]

Were considered by whom? Who thought the aforementioned groups ''went too far''? Is this just your opinion or who else shares it?

Definitely not just my opinion lol but by the body of traditional Muslim scholarship of the last 1400 years. We can get into it but you might have to ban yourself if you get reported TAC

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Definitely not just my opinion lol but by the body of traditional Muslim scholarship of the last 1400 years.

There was never a monolithic body of traditional scholarship. Are you willfully forgetting about sectarianism?

We can get into it but you might have to ban yourself if you get reported TAC

Is this a threat to report me? For what exactly? I did not insult anyone

 

[Haoshoku]

There was never a monolithic body of traditional scholarship. Are you willfully forgetting about sectarianism?

Is this a threat to report me? For what exactly? I did not insult anyone

Now I know that you are TAC lol, we can talk on discord or something if you’re serious I’m not gonna entertain you here for just giggles.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Now I know that you are TAC lol, we can talk on discord or something if you’re serious I’m not gonna entertain you here for just giggles.

Pathetic way to weasel yourself out of a conversation that you're uncomfortable with. You don't even have the guts to declare your unwillingness to reflect upon your biases openly.

 

[Haoshoku]

Pathetic way to weasel yourself out of a conversation that you're uncomfortable with. You don't even have the guts to declare your unwillingness to reflect upon your biases openly.

If I was uncomfortable I wouldn’t have responded, it was literally from Sunday and I responded as soon as I came in here. But I’m not gonna discuss that while you hide behind an alt for shits and giggles. If you say you aren’t TAC then I’ll gladly resume.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

If I was uncomfortable I wouldn’t have responded, it was literally from Sunday and I responded as soon as I came in here. But I’m not gonna discuss that while you hide behind an alt for shits and giggles. If you say you aren’t TAC then I’ll gladly resume.

I am not TAC but you are free to believe whatever you want

BTW weren't you a mod on OJ?

 

[Haoshoku]

I am not TAC but you are free to believe whatever you want

BTW weren't you a mod on OJ?

LMAO you aren’t good at this, it took you like 5 posts to deny that. Whatever man, do what you gotta do lol.

But for the record by ‘body’ I didn’t mean a literal monolithic body of scholars but rather the brunt of classical scholarship. Not just that but the beliefs of Sufism in general are in contradiction with the original sources. You can’t say practices like these are found in the Quran or the Hadith:

Anyways this may be beyond the pay grade of a weeb forum but if you look into the history of Sufism, it’s in the word where Suf means wool, where you had people who would try to practice asceticism by wearing the roughest of clothing at the time and would seclude themselves a lot. To be ascetic is considered virtuous and is encouraged in Islam, but the practice of dressing poorly and not working for a living and secluding yourself like a monk isn’t what is understood as asceticism according to the original sources. So it started with a misapplication in practice then evolved into what it did. The Ottoman Janisaries and the Sufi mystics who wrote such literature have no theological or textual basis for such actions and statements. The Sufis in the Ottoman Empire went too far for even the Ottomans themselves, the Taymiyyan influenced Ottomans literally cracked down on Sufi houses is that far enough for you?

Like I said I can get into it but it’s a bit above the pay grade of an anime forum, definitely not worth the time if you hide behind an alt lol.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

You can’t say practices like these are found in the Quran or the Hadith:

Now don't tell me you think that the hijab can be found in the Qur'an 🤡

 

[Zolo]

Now I know that you are TAC lol, we can talk on discord or something if you’re serious I’m not gonna entertain you here for just giggles.

Solis being TACs alt for shits and giggles ? damn, maybe you are on to something

 

[NAMELESS]

Solis being TACs alt for shits and giggles ? damn, maybe you are on to something

Impossible,TAC is always polite to me and Solis seems to have a grudge against me.He seems to hate the portuguese for some reason.

 

[Zolo]

Impossible,TAC is always polite to me and Solis seems to have a grudge against me.He seems to hate the portuguese for some reason.

Have you seen Solis and TAC in the same room ?

 

[NAMELESS]

Ignorant stuff, read some studies. You know.. science.


Yes it does when the solution to resolve a problem create more harm than good. Liberals don't understand core societal and political issue, that's why they have very poor solutions to deal with those problems.. and i'm not talking about what other conservative rightists do.. that's even worse.




I think you don't understand what we are talking about. That's the problem.




No, only in your nightmares mate.



I Guess science is wrong too.



You only have one example to counter my assertions, I have a hundreds.. I don't think you will make it Billy..



Indeed, you are a perfect example of that. You are completely intoxicated by social networks and incel propaganda.


Dude.. there are people on the right who calls themself "feminist".. you don't become a feminist just because you say you are one. Are you for real or what ?

"You don't become a feminist just because you say you are one" and yet you can change your sex or become an animal or object at will.The logic of a fanatical leftist
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Have you seen Solis and TAC in the same room ?

nope and i hope to keep things that way

 

[Haoshoku]

Now don't tell me you think that the hijab can be found in the Qur'an 🤡

So no response, just parroting. Weak sauce post.

Solis being TACs alt for shits and giggles ? damn, maybe you are on to something

Nah this ain’t him not with 12k posts lol. I legit thought it was TAC since he had an alt with the same name before, I didn’t know it was solis.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

So no response, just parroting. Weak sauce post.

 

[Haoshoku]

 

[Zolo]

So no response, just parroting. Weak sauce post.


Nah this ain’t him not with 12k posts lol. I legit thought it was TAC since he had an alt with the same name before, I didn’t know it was solis.

better to not engage with him. he doesnt even know hes own gender