The title: talks about wanting to present facts
The text: no facts, only opinions and ethical commentary
You are seriously saying here that Amnesty International is not basing their reasonning on factual data research and reports ? xD

Its always funny with this thread.. when you bring factual data and report, you are either ignored of laughed at and when you give actual vulgarization, suddenly people care about facts and data...

Let's be honest, you wouldn't change your mind if I gave you researched papers or data reports demonstrating the inefficiency of the death penalty, right ?
 

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You are seriously saying here that Amnesty International is not basing their reasonning on factual data research and reports ? xD

Its always funny with this thread.. when you bring factual data and report, you are either ignored of laughed at and when you give actual vulgarization, suddenly people care about facts and data...

Let's be honest, you wouldn't change your mind if I gave you researched papers or data reports demonstrating the inefficiency of the death penalty, right ?
where are the facts and data ? those are opinion based answers
 
There are no facts in this paper, only ethical commentary and opinions. And strawmanning. Quote me one of the 'facts' presented in this paper please.
Those are facts based on data report and researches. Answer my question please:

You wouldn't change your mind if I gave you researched papers or data reports demonstrating the inefficiency of the death penalty, right ?

So why should I bother searching for the research papers and the data reports ?


where are the facts and data ? those are opinion based answers
Don't act like you suddenly care about datas and researches. When I gave you plenty a few weeks ago, you guys ignored them.
 
Those are facts based on data report and researches. Answer my question please:

You wouldn't change your mind if I gave you researched papers or data reports demonstrating the inefficiency of the death penalty, right ?

So why should I bother searching for the research papers and the data reports ?
My bunny the paper states its opinions and ethical commentary as facts, it doesn't say 'look up xyz article'.'
Plus the paper seems to make the assumption that supporters of capital punishment want to execute all major AND minor criminals indiscriminately which is total nonsense.
 

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Those are facts based on data report and researches. Answer my question please:

You wouldn't change your mind if I gave you researched papers or data reports demonstrating the inefficiency of the death penalty, right ?

So why should I bother searching for the research papers and the data reports ?



Don't act like you suddenly care about datas and researches. When I gave you plenty a few weeks ago, you guys ignored them.
You gave shit, and now you give nothing too and act all high and mighty. stupid research like that is meaningless. those will allways get results the ones doing the research wants to get, one side can get one results and the other different, this aint no space exploration.
 
My bunny the paper states its opinions and ethical commentary as facts, it doesn't say 'look up xyz article'.'
Do you say "go look up Einstein's theory of relativity" when you say that E=mc² ? No, its just known stuff. At least when you are a researcher.

This is not an encyclopedia, its a vulgarization sum up of the known fact about this subject. If you want to further your understanding of those fact, you can go search for researches on the subject.


Plus the paper seems to make the assumption that supporters of capital punishment want to execute all major AND minor criminals indiscriminately which is total nonsense.
Where do you see that ?


I gave 15+ researches paper on the condition of women under patriarchy. And just like now, you ignored them, simply because those papers challenged your understanding of reality :shocking:


stupid research like that is meaningless
So you prefer this one maybe ?

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/1745-9133.12601

Or you will ignore it and laugh at science once again ? :seriously:
 

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Do you say "go look up Einstein's theory of relativity" when you say that E=mc² ? No, its just known stuff. At least when you are a researcher.

This is not an encyclopedia, its a vulgarization sum up of the known fact about this subject. If you want to further your understanding of those fact, you can go search for researches on the subject.



Where do you see that ?



I gave 15+ researches paper on the condition of women under patriarchy. And just like now, you ignored them, simply because those papers challenged your understanding of reality :shocking:



So you prefer this one maybe ?

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/1745-9133.12601

Or you will ignore it and laugh at science once again ? :seriously:
this aint no science. when it comes to topics like that its just biased bullshit. If your alt right did research what results they would get ?
 
this aint no science. when it comes to topics like that its just biased bullshit. If your alt right did research what results they would get ?
Oh, so science researches are not science now ?

In reality, you don't care about science and reality, do you ?


he didint even read the paper he presented.
I did (at least the understandable parts), mate, you did not.
 
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The point of those actions is to make people speak about them. As I said, if those people did nothing, climate change would simply be ignored by people like yourself. Bad publicity is still publicity.
Bruh wtf are you on about. Im not talking about myself. Im not in favor of ignoring climate change. But shit like that still fucks up enough people that i think activists need better strategies. Making people go from being ambivalent to actively be against it because you fuck them up isnt helping.

Feel free to disagree
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blame the ones in power that prevent those changes from happening.
Uhm why not both?!!?!

Doesnt have to be one or the other dude. . .
 

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Oh, so science researches are not science now ?

In reality, you don't care about science and reality, do you ?



I did (at least the understandable parts), mate, you did not.
If biases can change results this aint no real science... Physics, Math, thats science. and your political bias wont effect its results.
 
Bruh wtf are you on about. Im not talking about myself. Im not in favor of ignoring climate change.
Oh sorry, my bad. You are just for the critic of people who take actions.


But shit like that still fucks up enough people that i think activists need better strategies
There is not "one" strategy, there are a lot. Blocking roads is just one annoying way to make the fight be heard in some way. But beside that there is a great range of tools and actions. Environmental lobbying like what Greta T. is doing, Scientific lobbying like the GIEC, Action of sudden awareness like putting paint on art, action of sabotage etc.. there are no bad actions.


Making people go from being ambivalent to actively be against it because you fuck them up isnt helping.
No mate. There is no such thing as "ambivalent" people. If you understand the urgency of fighting against climate change then you understand the importance of those action, even when they are annoying. Those who start saying "f*ck em" are those who were already disagreeing or not understanding the urgency of the situation.

Again, there is no more time left, we must do EVERYTHING possible to make people wake up and look at the problem. And if it means annoying them a little for them to remember that resistance still exist, then so be it.


Uhm why not both?!!?!
Because one is responsible, the other is fighting that.

You do not blame women who fight ferociously patriarchy and manifest, do ya ?

Maybe you should stop fighting against those who are dominated and more against those who are dominating... no ?

Unless you want me to call you a complicit of inaction of course..

If biases can change results this aint no real science... Physics, Math, thats science. and your political bias wont effect its results.
1. Mate.. dear mate..

I proved you two weeks ago with two clear researchs that science could get biased results because of biases in research methodology.

2. What I gave you here:

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/1745-9133.12601

Is a scientific research paper.


Respect yourself, and stop talking now.

German far right party (afd) thinking about banning non native Germans :crazwhat: Who would have thought that they are nazis
"Let's not do anything about it" :optimistic:
 

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Cope Doctor
Lets GO !

But seriously I never heard this news, seems too extreme , I would ensure illegal immigrants that dont work and add nothing to society leave, and for all other to be checked backround. they arent into position where they can just evict everyone who isnt german. not since they become colony of america who blew up all cheap energy they got
 
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