Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

How is this any relevant? This doesnt change that people are annoyed lmao

The point of those actions is to make people speak about them. As I said, if those people did nothing, climate change would simply be ignored by people like yourself. Bad publicity is still publicity.

The more people will start to move and responsibilize those in power, the less others will have to raise awareness through annoying actions.

You want to blame someone ? Don't blame the one that is trying to make things change, blame the ones in power that prevent those changes from happening.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Oh god are y'all ******

 

[Etzel Andergast]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1744812428880122258

tf

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1744812428880122258

tf

That's what happens when a government abolishes capital punishment.

 

[Logiko]

That's what happens when a government abolishes capital punishment.

No

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

No

Take a look at south American prisons and say that again

 

[Logiko]

Take a look at south American prisons and say that again

https://www.amnesty.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/act500062008en.pdf

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

https://www.amnesty.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/act500062008en.pdf

The title: talks about wanting to present facts
The text: no facts, only opinions and ethical commentary

:saden:

 

[Logiko]

The title: talks about wanting to present facts
The text: no facts, only opinions and ethical commentary

You are seriously saying here that Amnesty International is not basing their reasonning on factual data research and reports ? xD

Its always funny with this thread.. when you bring factual data and report, you are either ignored of laughed at and when you give actual vulgarization, suddenly people care about facts and data...

Let's be honest, you wouldn't change your mind if I gave you researched papers or data reports demonstrating the inefficiency of the death penalty, right ?

 

[Zolo]

You are seriously saying here that Amnesty International is not basing their reasonning on factual data research and reports ? xD

Its always funny with this thread.. when you bring factual data and report, you are either ignored of laughed at and when you give actual vulgarization, suddenly people care about facts and data...

Let's be honest, you wouldn't change your mind if I gave you researched papers or data reports demonstrating the inefficiency of the death penalty, right ?

where are the facts and data ? those are opinion based answers

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

You are seriously saying here that Amnesty International is not basing their reasonning on factual data research and reports ? xD

There are no facts in this paper, only ethical commentary and opinions. And strawmanning. Quote me one of the 'facts' presented in this paper please.

 

[Logiko]

There are no facts in this paper, only ethical commentary and opinions. And strawmanning. Quote me one of the 'facts' presented in this paper please.

Those are facts based on data report and researches. Answer my question please:

You wouldn't change your mind if I gave you researched papers or data reports demonstrating the inefficiency of the death penalty, right ?

So why should I bother searching for the research papers and the data reports ?

where are the facts and data ? those are opinion based answers

Don't act like you suddenly care about datas and researches. When I gave you plenty a few weeks ago, you guys ignored them.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Those are facts based on data report and researches. Answer my question please:

You wouldn't change your mind if I gave you researched papers or data reports demonstrating the inefficiency of the death penalty, right ?

So why should I bother searching for the research papers and the data reports ?

My bunny the paper states its opinions and ethical commentary as facts, it doesn't say 'look up xyz article'.'
Plus the paper seems to make the assumption that supporters of capital punishment want to execute all major AND minor criminals indiscriminately which is total nonsense.

 

[Zolo]

Those are facts based on data report and researches. Answer my question please:

You wouldn't change your mind if I gave you researched papers or data reports demonstrating the inefficiency of the death penalty, right ?

So why should I bother searching for the research papers and the data reports ?



Don't act like you suddenly care about datas and researches. When I gave you plenty a few weeks ago, you guys ignored them.

You gave shit, and now you give nothing too and act all high and mighty. stupid research like that is meaningless. those will allways get results the ones doing the research wants to get, one side can get one results and the other different, this aint no space exploration.

 

[Logiko]

My bunny the paper states its opinions and ethical commentary as facts, it doesn't say 'look up xyz article'.'

Do you say "go look up Einstein's theory of relativity" when you say that E=mc² ? No, its just known stuff. At least when you are a researcher.

This is not an encyclopedia, its a vulgarization sum up of the known fact about this subject. If you want to further your understanding of those fact, you can go search for researches on the subject.

Plus the paper seems to make the assumption that supporters of capital punishment want to execute all major AND minor criminals indiscriminately which is total nonsense.

Where do you see that ?

You gave shit

I gave 15+ researches paper on the condition of women under patriarchy. And just like now, you ignored them, simply because those papers challenged your understanding of reality

stupid research like that is meaningless

So you prefer this one maybe ?

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/1745-9133.12601

Or you will ignore it and laugh at science once again ?

 

[Zolo]

Do you say "go look up Einstein's theory of relativity" when you say that E=mc² ? No, its just known stuff. At least when you are a researcher.

This is not an encyclopedia, its a vulgarization sum up of the known fact about this subject. If you want to further your understanding of those fact, you can go search for researches on the subject.



Where do you see that ?



I gave 15+ researches paper on the condition of women under patriarchy. And just like now, you ignored them, simply because those papers challenged your understanding of reality



So you prefer this one maybe ?

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/1745-9133.12601

Or you will ignore it and laugh at science once again ?

this aint no science. when it comes to topics like that its just biased bullshit. If your alt right did research what results they would get ?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Ok I'm not wasting my time on this nonsense y'all ****** are spewing

 

[Zolo]

Ok I'm not wasting my time on this nonsense y'all ****** are spewing

he didint even read the paper he presented.

 

[Logiko]

this aint no science. when it comes to topics like that its just biased bullshit. If your alt right did research what results they would get ?

Oh, so science researches are not science now ?

In reality, you don't care about science and reality, do you ?

he didint even read the paper he presented.

I did (at least the understandable parts), mate, you did not.

 

[Zenos7]

The point of those actions is to make people speak about them. As I said, if those people did nothing, climate change would simply be ignored by people like yourself. Bad publicity is still publicity.

Bruh wtf are you on about. Im not talking about myself. Im not in favor of ignoring climate change. But shit like that still fucks up enough people that i think activists need better strategies. Making people go from being ambivalent to actively be against it because you fuck them up isnt helping.

Feel free to disagree
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blame the ones in power that prevent those changes from happening.

Uhm why not both?!!?!

Doesnt have to be one or the other dude. . .