Controversial General Political Discussion

[Toby D. Dog]

uhum,lets pretend gangs to receive money to ferry migrants across and that some of those are used to carry drugs,weapons and illegal goods across. By empathy you mean letting anyone in without any papers just like you got in,right? I see right through you,dirt bag. Pretty sure i have a more active social life than you,fat cuck

Never in the history of this stupid ass threat have I said “let everyone in” stupid fucking retard.

I very explicitly said we need immigration reform. I don’t believe in open borders. I’m tired of having to say to just be more humane toward these people, even if it means not letting them in.

You can keep pretending I’m fat and that your life is better than mine. You’ve proven time and time again to be a weirdo with no family and no life.

you don’t see through shit. You cuck yourself to people that see you as less than human. Which is hilarious since you’ll cuck yourself to anybody you see as “similar” to you since you’re such a sad fucking unwanted bitch.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Sure, Immigration reform. But what that entails verse what we've had since decades...

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Sure, Immigration reform. But what that entails verse what we've had since decades...

You think either party actually want it? It’s all theatrics. They use it as a political tool to rile people up.

 

[NAMELESS]

Never in the history of this stupid ass threat have I said “let everyone in” stupid fucking retard.

I very explicitly said we need immigration reform. I don’t believe in open borders. I’m tired of having to say to just be more humane toward these people, even if it means not letting them in.

You can keep pretending I’m fat and that your life is better than mine. You’ve proven time and time again to be a weirdo with no family and no life.

you don’t see through shit. You cuck yourself to people that see you as less than human. Which is hilarious since you’ll cuck yourself to anybody you see as “similar” to you since you’re such a sad fucking unwanted bitch.

You speak as if you know me personally lol. I must have hit an old wound to have you making up random shit to try and insult me rof. Your early immigration days must have been miserable. Since I or my family never even thought about moving away from South America,i'm sure we are/were doing way better than you guys that packed your things and moved away to the US.
How did you guys get in? Boat,horse or inside one of those awful buses full of people?lmfao. Getting pissed over what strangers tell you online is sign of insecurity and fragile ego,you need to check a doc,mate. Anyway,anyone that wants to study and work in the US or has money gets a green card. The immigration policy is fine as it is.
What they need to do is figure out a way to keep illegal aliens far away. I think what the Texans are doing is just fine. A bunch of countries harden their borders with military control for national security reasons. There is nothing inhumane about this. Protest the barbed wire fences the North Koreans have on their border with S.K,hypocrite.
@Zolo can confirm that you admitted to being overweight

 

[Toby D. Dog]

You speak as if you know me personally lol. I must have hit an old wound to have you making up random shit to try and insult me rof. Your early immigration days must have been miserable,since I or my family never even thought about moving away from South America,i'm sure we are/were doing way better than you guys that packed your things and moved away to the US.
How did you guys get in? Boat,horse or inside one of those awful buses full of people?lmfao. Getting pissed over what strangers tell you online is sign of insecurity and fragile ego,you need to check a doc,mate. Anyway,anyone that wants to study and work in the US or has money gets a green card. The immigration policy is fine as it is.
What they need to do is figure out a way to keep illegal aliens far away. I think what the Texans are doing is just fine. A bunch of countries harden their borders with military control for national security reasons. There is nothing inhumane about this. Protest the barbed wire fences the North Koreans have on their border with S.K,hypocrite.

You insulted my family out of the fucking blue. Just because your parents are pieces of shit and hate your guts doesn’t mean you should go after mine and call them drug dealers. I’ve given my life to this country. I’ve been a citizen since I turned 18 and I want the best for my country. You don’t know how the constitution here works or the actual legal debacle that’s unraveling here so at least have the decency to look it up.

I know you’re pathetic cause you actively look for smoke with me. Plus you take screenshots of every fucking convo you have in here. Peak friendless, and Maidenless behavior.

 

[Ravagerblade]

You think either party actually want it? It’s all theatrics. They use it as a political tool to rile people up.

That's the Uniparty for ya.

 

[NAMELESS]

You insulted my family out of the fucking blue. Just because your parents are pieces of shit and hate your guts doesn’t mean you should go after mine and call them drug dealers. I’ve given my life to this country. I’ve been a citizen since I turned 18 and I want the best for my country. You don’t know how the constitution here works or the actual legal debacle that’s unraveling here so at least have the decency to look it up.

I know you’re pathetic cause you actively look for smoke with me. Plus you take screenshots of every fucking convo you have in here. Peak friendless, and Maidenless behavior.

Being a citizen for 11 years lol. What a patriot. I didn't insult your family. I insulted you. I assumed you guys migrated illegally and i think i hit the spot,because of your reaction. Your reading comprehension is shit. When did i call your parents or you drug dealers ? I haven't taken a screenshot in a long ass time and i lost the old ones unfortunately. By country you mean Colombia or the US? Getting into the US with no visa would be a dream for the average Escobar wannabe.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Being a citizen for 11 years lol. What a patriot. I didn't insult your family. I insulted you. I assumed you guys migrated illegally and i think i hit the spot,because of your reaction. Your reading comprehension is shit. When did i call your parents or you drug dealers ? I haven't taken a screenshot in a long ass time and i lost the old ones unfourtunately. By country you mean Colombia or the US? Getting into the US with no visa would be a dream for the average Escobar wannabe.

Sure, ok, I’m ilegal. Arrest me officer. Now you just throwing random shit at the wall. And being an absolute fucking virgin loser pretending I’m a drug dealer.

but yeah, I crossed that border myself and jumped that wire. I’m such a fucking Chad.

 

[NAMELESS]

Sure, ok, I’m ilegal. Arrest me officer. Now you just throwing random shit at the wall. And being an absolute fucking virgin loser pretending I’m a drug dealer.

but yeah, I crossed that border myself and jumped that wire. I’m such a fucking Chad.

Read my posts again. I called you acocaine fuelled idiot. I didn't call you or your family drug dealers,moron. So you did get in the fugitive way. I'm not judging. To each their own,i wouldn't know what i would have done if i were in your shoes.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Read my posts again. I called you acocaine fuelled idiot. I didn't call you or your family drug dealers,moron. So you did get in the fugitive way. I'm not judging. To each their own,i wouldn't know what i would have done if i were in your shoes.

Yeah, cause ilegals get papers right after they cross that border. Fucking idiot.

 

[NAMELESS]

Yeah, cause ilegals get papers right after they cross that border. Fucking idiot.

Still waiting for the print where i called you or any anyone close to you drug dealers...

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

That shit has been a thing since the 80 or 70s bro. It’s a thing in every fucking county. But this guy has never even traveled outside his county so he wouldn’t know. As per how people adapt, 2nd generation Americans speak English among themselves almost exclusively.

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But i don't think you can get any worse.

This is your response to a heartfelt advice of mine 😢 that's so sad. I feel so bad for you.

Your early immigration days must have been miserable. Since I or my family never even thought about moving away from South America,i'm sure we are/were doing way better than you guys that packed your things and moved away to the US.

My bunny what kind of flex is that? "My life is so much better than yours was before you improved it" has to be the dumbest attempt at a flex I've seen here in this thread

 

[Toby D. Dog]

My bunny what kind of flex is that? "My life is so much better than yours was before you improved it" has to be the dumbest attempt at a flex I've seen here in this thread

Funny thing is that my dad bought out an American construction company and set up his operation here in the US. That’s how we immigrated. He sold it a couple of years ago and moved back to Colombia since we still had the other company back home.

I guarantee you, my guy doesn’t even have one quarter of the money my family has, even back then.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Funny thing is that my dad bought out an American construction company and set up his operation here in the US. That’s how we immigrated.

I guarantee you, my guy doesn’t have even one quarter of the money my family had even back then.

And does it matter? "My parents have more money than your parents" is not a particularly intelligent flex either

 

[Toby D. Dog]

And does it matter? "My parents have more money than your parents" is not a particularly intelligent flex either

It doesn’t. But I find it funny since he called me an illegal and whatnot. It was a weird flex just like you said, but it is oh so ironic.

 

[Logiko]

it is because THE COUNTRY DOES NOT HAVE CAPACITY to deal with them. So you are in fact proving my point.

Nop.
This is this specific assertion that is wrong. The west have enough ressources to welcome new people. The "we do not have the capacity" is a simple lie to avoid the question of the "how do we create this capacity ?".

Because to create this capacity, its not only for migrant that we need to change things, but for the entire society.. So of course, people don't want.. therefore they make excuses.

I'd rather look up actual papers

Then do. Because that's exactly what I'm sharing.

Not at all

??? Yes it is. Uncovering the truth is a progressive act mate. Its in the name.

Are you okay ?

Despite being pretty ignorant on most of the things he is talking about

So much that I'm the only one sharing scientific researches.... and you are the ones ignoring them lol

Retardiko

I wonder if I should report you for that

Earth orbiting the sun wont change.

Well yes it will change, when the sun will transform..

Obviously we dont know everything, but thats not the same as stating nonsense like political bias will skew research findings

Not "political biases", just "biases". Once again you don't care to read correctly what people are writing...

Saying that means one doesnt understand how science actually works.

Indeed, you don't understand how science works and by who science is made.

You either didnt read or understand your link.

Because you did ? So tell me, what is disproving, in the article, the fact that in science there can be biases ?

We are talking about very different things then.

Yeah precisely, that's why I would be pleased that you start really reading what I write and not interpreting my words through your confusionnist lens and thus deforming everything...

When I talk about something, I'm very precise in the words I use. So when I'm talking about "biases" in science I'm not talking about "political biases" and I'm not necessaraly talking about all the conclusions.

I'm talking about the process of doing science which include:
- Those who pay the bills
- The researchers
- The scientific method
- The researches
- The conclusions
- Those who recieve the informations

Its cause poorly though out economic politics

Correlation =/= causation

Tell me, are states doing everything they can to integrate poor people nicely ? ( Giving them access to financial helps, Giving them access to free healthcare ? Giving them access to tempory free and or much more affordable housings ? Giving them access to free school ? )

Or are those states doing everything to exclude more and more people incomplicated conditions from the rest of the society ? Marginalizing them ? Limiting their access to basic ressources and healthcare ? Etc..

I bet its the second.

So yeah... the problem is not the immigration, the problem is how we treat poor people in a capitalist society.

 

[Zenos7]

??? Yes it is. Uncovering the truth is a progressive act mate. Its in the name.

Are you okay ?

not a moral act though. evil scumbags or psychopaths also do science for progress

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Yeah precisely, that's why I would be pleased that you start really reading what I write and not interpreting my words through your confusionnist lens and thus deforming everything...

When I talk about something, I'm very precise in the words I use. So when I'm talking about "biases" in science I'm not talking about "political biases" and I'm not necessaraly talking about all the conclusions.

I'm talking about the process of doing science which include:
- Those who pay the bills
- The researchers
- The scientific method
- The researches
- The conclusions
- Those who recieve the informations

the discussion started out with you saying "science leans left" and then multiple people telling you the scientific method is supposed to be disconnected from the researcher so we get actual meaningful conclusions, as like in mathematical equations that describe phenomena in reality, and it took you fairly long to then say you werent talking about the results. . .

so just a question to end this:
do you think the gravitational force F=GmM/r² between two objects would have been different depending on researchers bias?

because its a no-brainer that people are biased, which is why the scientific method is designed the way it is. . . .

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Not "political biases", just "biases". Once again you don't care to read correctly what people are writing...

"like political bias" - thats an example. once again you dont care to read correctly what people are writing. and often enough you conveniently skip shit that i write

and well this discussion still started with you saying to bob that science leans left. . . which is political bias

 

[Monkey D Theories]

How about keep families that will bring poverty,criminality,drugs and miss use public services away?

Poverty and crime are systemic issues. People don't simply "bring poverty and crime".

 

[Zenos7]

Well yes it will change, when the sun will transform..

"it will change if its different"
man holy shit arent you realizing how stupid you sound?

 

[Monkey D Theories]

In fact, I believe immigrants commit less crime than the native population.