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As someone outside the US, the Trump issue is weird. It looks like democrats are trying to throw everything they can against him and are even willing to indulge in election interference and this will cause the opposite effect. After listening to some of his speeches and looking at some things (like the CNN interview) he seems like a competent candidate, specially because his time in office was actually not that bad for the US, specially when compared with Biden. No matter the candidate I hope they fix their borders issues soon before more tragedies happen.
About reap, this will not be fixed in the foreseeable future. Mostly, because women don't want that and actively block any attempts to fix the issue (just like fixing alimony and paternity issues).
Note that in most of those cases the victim wasn't in Brazil at the time and the accusation came way later. This is important because in Brazil when someone is even suspected of being victim of abuse she MUST be taken to the hospital, take the necessary medication and be examined. This diminishes the number of actual false reports of raep. This does not mean that woman don't try but when they are taken to the hospital they usually change their ''narratives'' to accusations of domestic violence. If they do falsely accuse a men of crime it is usually not to the police but to their neighbors or even some gangues in order to have them killed or crippled.
This is one of the reasons why the number of domestic violence cases are so high in Brazil, because -while they do happen- woman usually can't falsely accuse men of raep without getting caught before the charges are filled and violence usually does the trick.
Filling false charges is a crime (341CPP) but rarely someone bothers with it if the one doing it is a woman. At the same time, the chances of a police officer giving a shit about domestic violence cases aren't that high either.
About reap, this will not be fixed in the foreseeable future. Mostly, because women don't want that and actively block any attempts to fix the issue (just like fixing alimony and paternity issues).
Note that in most of those cases the victim wasn't in Brazil at the time and the accusation came way later. This is important because in Brazil when someone is even suspected of being victim of abuse she MUST be taken to the hospital, take the necessary medication and be examined. This diminishes the number of actual false reports of raep. This does not mean that woman don't try but when they are taken to the hospital they usually change their ''narratives'' to accusations of domestic violence. If they do falsely accuse a men of crime it is usually not to the police but to their neighbors or even some gangues in order to have them killed or crippled.
This is one of the reasons why the number of domestic violence cases are so high in Brazil, because -while they do happen- woman usually can't falsely accuse men of raep without getting caught before the charges are filled and violence usually does the trick.
Filling false charges is a crime (341CPP) but rarely someone bothers with it if the one doing it is a woman. At the same time, the chances of a police officer giving a shit about domestic violence cases aren't that high either.
Trump's presidency was better for the world overall because he isn't a warmonger like our previous leaders and our current Biden and wanted to focus on making home better than he wanted to take other countries' oil when we have our own. He isn't a politician, which is why he was rejected not only by the Democrats but the Republicans too, which also is the reason he drew in so many everyday people.
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The similarities with Bolsonaro are absurd. Although Bolsonaro is a politician (I guess 30+ years as politician) he never passed a law of his own because he never sold himself to the corrupted system.
But both are far from being perfect (although both are far better than the current ones in US and Brazil). Trump has a weird and suspiscious relationship and statements towards Russia. Although there wasn't any new war during his governament his statements of not willing to help Ukraine/Israel on their current wars is very concerning. Also his speechs towards NATO countries although I agree with his complain he shouldn't say something that go against the agreetment of it and specially saying he would incentivate Russia to go against them because US wouldn't help a bit.
Is the same thing with Bolsonaro, from time to time he just said SHIT that make people concern about his ideas and decisions and to go against him.
But both are far from being perfect (although both are far better than the current ones in US and Brazil). Trump has a weird and suspiscious relationship and statements towards Russia. Although there wasn't any new war during his governament his statements of not willing to help Ukraine/Israel on their current wars is very concerning. Also his speechs towards NATO countries although I agree with his complain he shouldn't say something that go against the agreetment of it and specially saying he would incentivate Russia to go against them because US wouldn't help a bit.
Is the same thing with Bolsonaro, from time to time he just said SHIT that make people concern about his ideas and decisions and to go against him.
@Toby D. Dog your thoughts on this ? Is Georgia disqualification still ongoing ??
No. It will be like 2016 the year liberals said trump stole the election which they still claim. Then they also claim that year that liberals lost governor and mayor positions because it was rigged.
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No it's the opposite she had the case and then hired her lover who wasn't qualified for the case.
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Oh and something about tax dollars paying for getaways for the two of them.
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No it's the opposite she had the case and then hired her lover who wasn't qualified for the case.
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Oh and something about tax dollars paying for getaways for the two of them.
I applaud him for knowing his rights and not complying. An ignorant person in the same situation is vulnerable and anything could have really happened but we would never have known. Why should he go along with them, waste his time by being unlawfully detained when he can just tell them to fuck off like he did instead of wasting his time in court. Fuck those officers. Their racial profiling led to them wanting to create a problem and if you ask me, racial profiling should be a crime if it’s able to be proven beyond reasonable suspicion.
He should have been fired. Retraining does not cure hatred.
Two problems with this case. First, excessive force by the cops. Second, even though he admitted to resisting arrest, why should that felony charge stick when he was already cleared to not be the suspect they were pursuing? The officers were in the wrong for arresting him in the first place. As I’m sure you know, having a felony on your record disqualifies you from tons of things, there is no reason for that charge to stick. They could have ran his plates before they ever even approached him and then ask him for ID to make sure the information matched. The entire situation was completely unnecessary.
He should have been fired. Retraining does not cure hatred.
Two problems with this case. First, excessive force by the cops. Second, even though he admitted to resisting arrest, why should that felony charge stick when he was already cleared to not be the suspect they were pursuing? The officers were in the wrong for arresting him in the first place. As I’m sure you know, having a felony on your record disqualifies you from tons of things, there is no reason for that charge to stick. They could have ran his plates before they ever even approached him and then ask him for ID to make sure the information matched. The entire situation was completely unnecessary.
Trump looked like an outsider at first and he even said he would “drain the swamp” but it was and is clear that to attain a high position in the political world you gotta play by their games, he’s no different in that regard. Where he differs from Sleepy Biden is that he’s a showman. I would agree his time there were less wars for sure but he did his fair share of US world policing when they took out Qassem Soleimani who was the 2nd most powerful man in Iran or when he dropped the mother of all bombs, lowkey he continued where Obama left off in places like Syria and Yemen. Even if we look at the current situation in Palestine, Trump was virtually the same if not even worse when he declared Jerusalem as the official capital of Israel.
I disagree. A smart person complies. The main mission of the person being pulled over and the cops, is to get home safe. Anything each party can do to make that happen is for the best. Compliance is the main thing. So many of these cases I see, could have been solved with compliance. I think that is one of the problems these days we have taught people not to be respectful. The truth is many cops are concerned every time they pull someone over that they aren't going home. Anything that provides reassurance from both sides is a positive. I know from personal experience if I didn't show my ass, I might not have been arrested as many times as I was. Even though they knew, I would be out within an hour even if that involved waking up a judge on the weekend night, they arrested me because I was a little shit.
I disagree about the retraining too. Everyone screams to defund the police but they don't have enough funds for proper training.
Now If an officer pulled me over and I punched them, even though I was already cleared of the crime. I would still be charged that goes for anyone. I do agree about the entire run his plates things.
I told this group the other things linger with me and the first video you posted sure has. How tragic it's been 3 years since that video you posted with that narrative has been proven false, by the suspect's own mouth. How scary is that? That's why I believe nothing I see nor do I comment on something when it first happens. Even the people recording the video got wrong and they were there in person. Question everything always. Because if you don't you're just a sheep being led.
I disagree about the retraining too. Everyone screams to defund the police but they don't have enough funds for proper training.
Now If an officer pulled me over and I punched them, even though I was already cleared of the crime. I would still be charged that goes for anyone. I do agree about the entire run his plates things.
I told this group the other things linger with me and the first video you posted sure has. How tragic it's been 3 years since that video you posted with that narrative has been proven false, by the suspect's own mouth. How scary is that? That's why I believe nothing I see nor do I comment on something when it first happens. Even the people recording the video got wrong and they were there in person. Question everything always. Because if you don't you're just a sheep being led.
There is corruption in certain states but almost half the time something happens, the cops are usually dealing with someone who refuses to comply or are dealing with a non-compliant criminal. They have to take measures to keep themselves safe. If you’re innocent just do not resist, resisting leads to escalation. Most cops generally try to follow proper protocol and most of the time nothing will happen during a routine traffic stop if both sides are calm. Things only hit the fan when people start resisting and acting sus to a cop that is already ready for action as is demanded for their rigorous job. So this is overblown most of the time. The media will have you believing otherwise tho lol.
In some cases, compliance is best but even still injustice happens in cases where people do comply. Compliance alone won’t solve corruption. If anything it leads to more of it.
You can’t retrain someone’s heart. It’s not about defunding police. It’s about making an example out of corrupt cops and letting them know they are not above the law and that there are consequences for corruption. The reason there is so much corruption is because we haven’t come down on it hard enough.
That is a completely different case. This guy was unarmed, not posing a physical threat to anyone and didn’t become agitated until one of the officers accused him of becoming aggressive in order to justify their use of force. If you assault an officer, you deserve that charge. It’s completely different. How can a resisting arrest charge stick if the arrest itself was wrong in the first place?
The people recording that video took what they saw at face value. They saw an officer putting drugs on the ground and the officer got irritated that he was being recorded. He could have taken the time to clear it up with the people recording but he didn’t and instead went after them aggressively. Not that it matters. You can’t blame people for taking things at face value, all you can do is inform them when the information they have is incorrect, which you’ve done but what we should never do is attack people for drawing conclusions based on the evidence they’ve been given. I’m not accusing you of attacking anyone either.
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In most cases I agree with you but I cannot sign off on complying in cases where abuse is clear and blatant. That said, if it seems like officers want to get overly aggressive, I do believe you should surrender for your own safety. It’s simultaneously overblown and downplayed if we’re being honest. Bad officers need to be held accountable more often.
You can’t retrain someone’s heart. It’s not about defunding police. It’s about making an example out of corrupt cops and letting them know they are not above the law and that there are consequences for corruption. The reason there is so much corruption is because we haven’t come down on it hard enough.
That is a completely different case. This guy was unarmed, not posing a physical threat to anyone and didn’t become agitated until one of the officers accused him of becoming aggressive in order to justify their use of force. If you assault an officer, you deserve that charge. It’s completely different. How can a resisting arrest charge stick if the arrest itself was wrong in the first place?
The people recording that video took what they saw at face value. They saw an officer putting drugs on the ground and the officer got irritated that he was being recorded. He could have taken the time to clear it up with the people recording but he didn’t and instead went after them aggressively. Not that it matters. You can’t blame people for taking things at face value, all you can do is inform them when the information they have is incorrect, which you’ve done but what we should never do is attack people for drawing conclusions based on the evidence they’ve been given. I’m not accusing you of attacking anyone either.
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In most cases I agree with you but I cannot sign off on complying in cases where abuse is clear and blatant. That said, if it seems like officers want to get overly aggressive, I do believe you should surrender for your own safety. It’s simultaneously overblown and downplayed if we’re being honest. Bad officers need to be held accountable more often.
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