Because you are seeing as increase of effectiveness and not productivity. You are seeing that productivity remains the same but they increase effectiveness by reducing employees. It won't be the case.

I'm not so sure about it. Didn't saw data. News of people being fired because of AI will always sells more views than news of jobs being created by AI specially when people needs to learn (do some kind of specialization) about it and they are ignorant about the theme and simply doesn't work to improve like you saw Logiko and other anti AI people arguing.
also you don't seem to understand that one doesn't need to hire many people to use A i

so the numbers don't really balance each other out
 
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go google it up you'll see many cases
Like I said. News will tend more to one side to the other. We need data. Not particular cases.
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also you don't seem to understand that one doesn't need to hire many people to use A i

so the numbers don't really balance each other out
You are the one doesn't understand. One can maintain their current employees and had then using AI to improve productivity.

It was just like I said. One studio with 5 artists making a weekly anime and now with AI they can do 5 weekly anime each artist on their own. It is just to explain what I'm talking not saying that is what happens but a possibility.
 
You're the fucking best man
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I don't tolerate your opinion so I will call you a biggot!
When said opinion is hurtfull for others, then no, there is no reason to tolerate it.


Economy/technology is what saves people not laws as regulations.
The opposite actually. Without people fighting for workers rights, children would still be working.
We could live in a robotic society and still be completely enslaved by labor.

someone who deliberately confuses minds to prevent objective analysis.
Not necessarally intentionnaly tho.

But yes, the effect of confusionnism as we define it in French militantism, is the confusion of political ideas, which can create rethoric where multiple opposite values are cohexisting.


So basically we trying to prevent discussions, and anyone who agrees with anything we say are uneducated lol.
Not necessaraly again. You may be coming from good faith. Confusionnism is not necessaraly a conscious process. Sometimes people with a lot of political knowledge can be confusionnist. Simply because political knowledge is not enough to really understand politics.

Political knowledge is the surface level of knowledge while the understanding of values is the second (and most important one). For example, you can perfectly have very little political knowledge but be extremelly aware of the values behind politics.

Understanding for example why the left and the right are two opposite and non mixable is one exemple of the understanding of values in politic.

So its not really a matter of knowledge and more a matter of understanding of the value system.


What the hell being a confusionist means to him?
Someone who promote the mixing of incompatible values in order prevent, consciously or not, the analysis and keep the confusion about a certain political subject.

For example, a confusionnist is someone that calls "far left" the woke side of the left (like me for example) who is just fighting against oppressions and wants the end of liberalism. This type of reasonning try to make people forget that there are actually far more radical movement on the left (communism / anarchism) in order to deligitimize any kind of critics against the liberal power in place.

Usually confusionnist will be placed in the center of the political spectrum but you can sometimes see confusionnism on the far right when - for example - people call woke people, "fascist" thus denaturing the concept of fascism in order to reject the label that can be sometimes put on them.


Maybe AI one day can mimic 100% of humans can do but as for now it is 100% different. When you have Oda drawing Goku you can tell it is Oda not Toriyama.
Ai is based on pre existing work. It can't create it can only mimic.

because it will do much more benefit than harm
No.


The artist can make use of AI to increase his productivity.
That's not how artists work.


They are already hired. They will be used to increase the company productivity. Or they can star their own using AI as well.
Capitalism....
:seriously:


News of people being fired because of AI will always sells more views than news of jobs being created by AI
For good reasons
 

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One can maintain their current employees and had then using AI to improve productivity.
If the employer had the means to cut costs by utilizing AI, he/she would most likely consider the option if there were no legal barriers that would prevent him/her from doing that.

Employees that are considered expendable would be let go of from their positions but the boss is greedy like that.
 

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If the employer had the means to cut costs by utilizing AI, he/she would most likely consider the option if there were no legal barriers that would prevent him/her from doing that.

Employees that are considered expendable would be let go of from their positions but the boss is greedy like that.
If you want an example of technology taking people's jobs, go to Walmart and try to find an actual cashier. Yesterday, went to Lowes, and not a single man-ran cashier was open and ended up having to go to customer service because I had to pay with a business check.
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Yesterday Whitmer said that Biden could get as many as 10,000 uncommitted votes in Michigan, he got 100,000. OUCH.
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Here in the US, food costs are unaffordable in the last couple of years. Kellogs is so out of touch and insulting, saying people need to move to cereal for dinner to be able to afford food. Talk about kicking people when they are down.
 
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If the employer had the means to cut costs by utilizing AI, he/she would most likely consider the option if there were no legal barriers that would prevent him/her from doing that.

Employees that are considered expendable would be let go of from their positions but the boss is greedy like that.
Yes of course. But again you all are thinking about the maintenance of current production not growth of it.
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When said opinion is hurtfull for others, then no, there is no reason to tolerate it.
That's why we don't tolerate you.


The opposite actually. Without people fighting for workers rights, children would still be working.
We could live in a robotic society and still be completely enslaved by labor.
Come back to reality. Child labor exists until this day. And it is for economic issues. Poor Children need to work to survive.


For example, a confusionnist is someone that calls "far left" the woke side of the left (like me for example) who is just fighting against oppressions and wants the end of liberalism. This type of reasonning try to make people forget that there are actually far more radical movement on the left (communism / anarchism) in order to deligitimize any kind of critics against the liberal power in place.
If woke isn't far left then what it is?


Ai is based on pre existing work. It can't create it can only mimic.
Just like all work.


That's not how artists work.
Wake up and adapt to new reality.


It sucks when capitalism is the answer for your childish problems isn't?


For good reasons
Nope.
 
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This shit makes absolutely no sense.
The wonders of capitalism.


That's why we don't tolerate you.
And how do I hurt you exactly ?


Come back to reality. Child labor exists until this day. And it is for economic issues. Poor Children need to work to survive.
And you have it.. an example where technology doesn't fix societal or economic issues.

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Actually, if you help the family financially, there is no need for the children to work. In fact, there should be no need for the children to work, period, So the problem is the lack of political action.

If woke isn't far left then what it is?
Entry left.

Being woke just means being aware of the oppressions in society and doing something about it. If you want a real far left, go check for communists and anarchists.

Plus, being far left doesn't means that you are a bigoted person (contrary to being far right).

Just like all work.
No mate

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Wake up and adapt to new reality.
Don't worry, we are adapting. And we are about to regulate the sh*t out of AI.
Playtime is OVER.


It sucks when capitalism is the answer for your childish problems isn't?
Literally the opposite here...

Yup

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And how do I hurt you exactly ?
Not me but the poor people of the world with your socialist ideas. The women and kids of this world with your gender bullshit theory.


And you have it.. an example where technology doesn't fix societal or economic issues.

:risitameh:

Actually, if you help the family financially, there is no need for the children to work. In fact, there should be no need for the children to work, period, So the problem is the lack of political action.
Technology improves economy. Economy brings people out of poverty. Non poor child's doesn't work. Is not hard even someone like you can understand.

Also I don't see any concern of child labor when they are actors for example. Or models.

Entry left.

Being woke just means being aware of the oppressions in society and doing something about it. If you want a real far left, go check for communists and anarchists.

Plus, being far left doesn't means that you are a bigoted person (contrary to being far right).
You tell me to check communist and those communists are totally intolerant towards gays for example and then you say they arr not bigots. Dude you are so deep in far left that you are blind that can't even make coherence with your own arguments.

Yes. Every artist is a product of the previous ones. And AI does create their own art. Reason why you can tell it is AI. No one makes art like AI does. And AI doesn't makes art like anyone else. You can only tell who is inspiring the AI just like you can tell which previous artists inspired one artist.


Don't worry, we are adapting. And we are about to regulate the sh*t out of AI.
Playtime is OVER.
No you won't. Humanity improvement won't slow down because of your socialist bullshit we have poor people, starving, needing medical treatments for diseases uncurables, we gotta stop conflicts like the ones in middle east and AI will be the key factor to all of that. We won't slow down and stop to save life because you don't want to adapt your work.


Literally the opposite here...
Not really and you can't prove it your point.


Cry
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Ikr these kids are just more competitive than rich white kids in first world countries.
You failed to make a point
 
Not me but the poor people of the world with your socialist ideas. The women and kids of this world with your gender bullshit theory.



Technology improves economy. Economy brings people out of poverty. Non poor child's doesn't work. Is not hard even someone like you can understand.

Also I don't see any concern of child labor when they are actors for example. Or models.


You tell me to check communist and those communists are totally intolerant towards gays for example and then you say they arr not bigots. Dude you are so deep in far left that you are blind that can't even make coherence with your own arguments.


Yes. Every artist is a product of the previous ones. And AI does create their own art. Reason why you can tell it is AI. No one makes art like AI does. And AI doesn't makes art like anyone else. You can only tell who is inspiring the AI just like you can tell which previous artists inspired one artist.



No you won't. Humanity improvement won't slow down because of your socialist bullshit we have poor people, starving, needing medical treatments for diseases uncurables, we gotta stop conflicts like the ones in middle east and AI will be the key factor to all of that. We won't slow down and stop to save life because you don't want to adapt your work.



Not really and you can't prove it your point.



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You failed to make a point
Read @Kerkovian's avi
 

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Ikr these kids are just more competitive than rich white kids in first world countries.
I think you took that out of context. It wasn't that long ago, even in the United States children had to work for their families to eat during the great depression. It's not something law/policy can fix alone, the policies have to promote a great economy to where the government has funds to help those that need it and family can live off of a parent or parents' income.
 
Not me but the poor people of the world with your socialist ideas. The women and kids of this world with your gender bullshit theory.
Sure.
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Economy brings people out of poverty
No, if that was the case, there wouldn't be poor people anymore einstein.

Poverty is caused by the maintening of our current capitalist system and the ignorance of the societal process that prevent people from accessing better lives : capitals.


Also I don't see any concern of child labor when they are actors for example. Or models.
There are regulations in those cases. You can't make a child work for hours and its never against their will, its very reglementated but wait...

Are you defending child labor here ?


those communists are totally intolerant towards gays
What communists are you talking about ?

People from China and north corea who call themself "communist" (but are not) or far left party in western countries ?


Dude you are so deep in far left that you are blind that can't even make coherence with your own arguments.
Again, not far left. The moment I will move far left, you might see a few changes in the way I interact with people like you.

Every artist is a product of the previous ones.
Hm.. no. Not even close.


And AI does create their own art.
Not even close either.


Reason why you can tell it is AI
We can tell that its AI because we can tell who the AI has stolen from. Yeah.


You can only tell who is inspiring the AI just like you can tell which previous artists inspired one artist.
That's not how inspiration work. AI is not "inspired". There is no processus of inspiration, its a process of copy.

When an artist is inspired, they don't copy, they use what they learn with their own style to create something new. AI is incapable of doing that.


Watch us


Humanity improvement
Humanity improvement is not technological, its human.

If you live in a technological world but you stay a bad person, there is no improvement.


we gotta stop conflicts like the ones in middle east and AI will be the key factor to all of that.
Ai when used in war.. will not show any kind of humanity.. which means that conflict might actually get worse, and not better.


We won't slow down and stop to save life because you don't want to adapt your work.
Oh but you are mistaken my dear. I don't want to stop technological or human progress. I want to stop people like you.


Not really and you can't prove it your point.
I don't need to. You are ridiculizing yourself on your own.


Again, I don't need to.
 
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