Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

Not me but the poor people of the world with your socialist ideas. The women and kids of this world with your gender bullshit theory.

Sure.

Economy brings people out of poverty

No, if that was the case, there wouldn't be poor people anymore einstein.

Poverty is caused by the maintening of our current capitalist system and the ignorance of the societal process that prevent people from accessing better lives : capitals.

Also I don't see any concern of child labor when they are actors for example. Or models.

There are regulations in those cases. You can't make a child work for hours and its never against their will, its very reglementated but wait...

Are you defending child labor here ?

those communists are totally intolerant towards gays

What communists are you talking about ?

People from China and north corea who call themself "communist" (but are not) or far left party in western countries ?

Dude you are so deep in far left that you are blind that can't even make coherence with your own arguments.

Again, not far left. The moment I will move far left, you might see a few changes in the way I interact with people like you.

Every artist is a product of the previous ones.

Hm.. no. Not even close.

And AI does create their own art.

Not even close either.

Reason why you can tell it is AI

We can tell that its AI because we can tell who the AI has stolen from. Yeah.

You can only tell who is inspiring the AI just like you can tell which previous artists inspired one artist.

That's not how inspiration work. AI is not "inspired". There is no processus of inspiration, its a process of copy.

When an artist is inspired, they don't copy, they use what they learn with their own style to create something new. AI is incapable of doing that.

No you won't.

Watch us

Humanity improvement

Humanity improvement is not technological, its human.

If you live in a technological world but you stay a bad person, there is no improvement.

we gotta stop conflicts like the ones in middle east and AI will be the key factor to all of that.

Ai when used in war.. will not show any kind of humanity.. which means that conflict might actually get worse, and not better.

We won't slow down and stop to save life because you don't want to adapt your work.

Oh but you are mistaken my dear. I don't want to stop technological or human progress. I want to stop people like you.

Not really and you can't prove it your point.

I don't need to. You are ridiculizing yourself on your own.

Cry

Again, I don't need to.

 

[AverageBuggyEnjoyer]

Me, @AL sama and @Uncle Van after spreading confusionnist agenda

http://imgur.com/a/wZSjDcb

 

[Logiko]

Me, @AL sama and @Uncle Van after spreading confusionnist agenda

http://imgur.com/a/wZSjDcb

 

[Uncle Van]

Me, @AL sama and @Uncle Van after spreading confusionnist agenda

http://imgur.com/a/wZSjDcb

We need to build our numbers. Since all you gotta do to be considered a confusionist is list things by definition and know history, the revolution should be upon us in a few weeks!

 

[AL sama]

We need to build our numbers. Since all you gotta do to be considered a confusionist is list things by definition and know history, the revolution should be upon us in a few weeks!

or just state facts

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Taylor swift is a psyop... is another one.

She's definitely in on the Biden agenda to get us to like gay stuff.

 

[Herrera95]

Sure.

‘Democratic socialist’ policies made the poor poorer: Study | Acton Institute
Welfare State Causes Wealth Inequality—Euro Experience | Cato at Liberty Blog

You can find the study inside those articles.

There are regulations in those cases. You can't make a child work for hours and its never against their will, its very reglementated but wait...

Are you defending child labor here ?

I'm totally not against it. I don't see any problem having children working. And just gave you examples of children working that people don't find it crazy. And then you even brag it about being regulate but then why not regulate other kinds of works too and let those children help their poor family instead of condeem them to starvation death by not working at all?

What communists are you talking about ?

People from China and north corea who call themself "communist" (but are not) or far left party in western countries ?

The soviets.

Hm.. no. Not even close.

Yes they are.

Appropriation! When Art Inspires Other Art | Artland Magazine

Good artists copy, great artists steal (creativethinkinghub.com)

Not even close either.

You are wrong as always

AI Art is Real Art and Not Stolen | David Boles, Blogs (bolesblogs.com)

We can tell that its AI because we can tell who the AI has stolen from. Yeah.

If you can differ the AI from "original" then it is not a copy but something new.

That's not how inspiration work. AI is not "inspired". There is no processus of inspiration, its a process of copy.

When an artist is inspired, they don't copy, they use what they learn with their own style to create something new. AI is incapable of doing that.

You don't even understand AI to say something like that.

Humanity improvement is not technological, its human.

If you live in a technological world but you stay a bad person, there is no improvement.

There is no much human improvement to be done. We already started walking on 2 instead of 4. Got smarter. Learned to make fire and tools. What else you want human to improve.

Fuck being a bad person or not. I'm worried about the people who are starving and malnourished.

Ai when used in war.. will not show any kind of humanity.. which means that conflict might actually get worse, and not better.

Except that there is always a human commanding AI. If the human says fuck humanity than yes it is true just like Hamas is doing with Israelis. But if they the human say becareful with humanity and lower the civilians deaths than it will do a good job just like Israel is doing at Gaza to vanish that terrorist group.

Oh but you are mistaken my dear. I don't want to stop technological or human progress. I want to stop people like you.

People like me wants a better life to everyone else. Good thing you expose what you really want.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

You may want to check out this article.

https://www.today.com/food/groceries/kellogg-ceo-cereal-for-dinner-save-money-backlash-rcna140540

I'd be tempted to respond with something like "I don't eat this shit anyways" but then I remembered that American society has been engineered and exploited to the point most people can't even buy real food anymore. This country has reached a level of depravity where a "food desert" is not infertile land where nothing grows but a place so far away from the only places that sell anything to eat(still toxic unhealthy shit). It's terrible what this country's people have become but I can't say that the country I live in is not heading towards the same direction.

 

[Daniel]

This country has reached a level of depravity where a "food desert" is not infertile land where nothing grows but a place so far away from the only places that sell anything to eat

Isn't the widely accepted definition of food deserts, these days, any area or community where the population has less access to fresh, nutritional food? In such areas, the nearest grocery store or supermarket is often at least a couple of miles away, if not further.

As a result of this, locals living in these communities tend to rely more on packaged, processed produce and/or restaurants. Processed foods, such as canned vegetables and tuna, typically have lower nutritional value and often contain additives to enhance preservation.

Are these preservatives healthy? Not really.

Thankfully these preseved foods are safe to consume and nowadays, somewhat cheaper than buying fresh produce. The convenice of access to these foods have the added effect of the population in these food deserts relying on them as well.

 

[Zemmi]

In the US people can choose to have healthier real food, but they typically choose not to. We are bombarded by unhealthy food ads everywhere. Commercials, billboards, they mail coupons and ads. It's endlessly shoved into people's faces. While real food isn't advertised.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

In the US people can choose to have healthier real food, but they typically choose not to. We are bombarded by unhealthy food ads everywhere. Commercials, billboards, they mail coupons and ads. It's endlessly shoved into people's faces. While real food isn't advertised.

Other countries do advertising campaigns to encourage people to eat certain types of food. The US government would never do that and even if they did, crazy alt right conspiracy theorists would accuse them of trying to brainwash them.

 

[Daniel]

Other countries do advertising campaigns to encourage people to eat certain types of food

Aren't fast food ads/commercials a sort of campaign themselves that encourage people to eat "certain types of foods"?

You got the fries, burger, specialty items, advertised as a great deal at a certain price, encouraging people to consider the more convenient option...

because convenience is really tempting when the price is also cheap!

Not so much anymore with these damn rising food costs via inflation (having to pay $15 for a large burger and a fries combo eventually do take a toll on those bank accounts).

 

[Zemmi]

Other countries do advertising campaigns to encourage people to eat certain types of food. The US government would never do that and even if they did, crazy alt right conspiracy theorists would accuse them of trying to brainwash them.

We have healthy campaigns that are put put by the USDA & Govt provided insurance Medicaid/Medicare and other small organizations but they don't have nearly the budget that Mcdonald's, KFC, Taco Bell, Wendys, Sonic, Whataburger etc. do

 

[Toby D. Dog]

We have healthy campaigns that are put put by the USDA & Govt provided insurance Medicaid/Medicare and other small organizations but they don't have nearly the budget that Mcdonald's, KFC, Taco Bell, Wendys, Sonic, Whataburger etc. do

I've never seen any type of USDA ad campaign ever.
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Aren't fast food ads/commercials a sort of campaign themselves that encourage people to eat "certain types of foods"?

You got the fries, burger, specialty items, advertised as a great deal at a certain price, encouraging people to consider the more convenient option...

because convenience is really tempting when the price is also cheap!

Not so much anymore with these damn rising food costs via inflation (having to pay $15 for a large burger and a fries combo eventually do take a toll on those bank accounts).

what's blud waffling about?

 

[Zemmi]

I've never seen any type of USDA ad campaign ever.
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what's blud waffling about?

They do have the occasional television ad but they often have them in the health units, obstetricians offices, pediatric centers, and public family services. They also do local area ads across the country to promote farmer markets.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

They do have the occasional television ad but they often have them in the health units, obstetricians offices, pediatric centers, and public family services. They also do local area ads across the country to promote farmer markets.

I meant more like a nationwide campaign to encourage people to eat more chicken or veggies. Other countries do that.

 

[Herrera95]

Isn't the widely accepted definition of food deserts, these days, any area or community where the population has less access to fresh, nutritional food? In such areas, the nearest grocery store or supermarket is often at least a couple of miles away, if not further.

As a result of this, locals living in these communities tend to rely more on packaged, processed produce and/or restaurants. Processed foods, such as canned vegetables and tuna, typically have lower nutritional value and often contain additives to enhance preservation.

Are these preservatives healthy? Not really.

Thankfully these preseved foods are safe to consume and nowadays, somewhat cheaper than buying fresh produce. The convenice of access to these foods have the added effect of the population in these food deserts relying on them as well.

Not sure if you guys already found this I'm jumping in this discussion with you and found this nice article. Worth the read.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/processed-foods/
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Other countries do advertising campaigns to encourage people to eat certain types of food. The US government would never do that and even if they did, crazy alt right conspiracy theorists would accuse them of trying to brainwash them.

Wrong as always

https://www.salon.com/2022/08/11/wh...-that-socialists-are-taking-over-the-country/
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We have healthy campaigns that are put put by the USDA & Govt provided insurance Medicaid/Medicare and other small organizations but they don't have nearly the budget that Mcdonald's, KFC, Taco Bell, Wendys, Sonic, Whataburger etc. do

Because this whole concern about health food is fairly new while fast good being doing their stuff for decades.

It is not governament job to advise about it but the companies of health food.

 

[Zemmi]

I think this video really brings home everything I have been talking about, especially with inner cities. They have voted for the same people for decades, hoping for something different and all they have received in return is more destruction to their neighborhoods. I want all the children here in the US (The world too, but everything starts wherever your home is) to have safe neighborhoods and educations. Not corrupt politicians stealing those funds that were meant to help them.

 

[Daniel]

what's blud waffling about?

The definition of a campaign encompasses a series of activities, actions, or efforts that are strategically directed towards achieving a specific goal or objective.

In this case, the objective of these fast food advertisements is to well...sell fast food products to customers.

When this definition is applied to the realm of fast-food advertising, the primary objective of these fast-food companies becomes clear: these campaigns are designed to promote their products to consumers. To achieve this, fast food companies deploy a strategic mix of marketing techniques. Some of these include (but are not limited to):

1. TV Commercials/Youtube Advertisements: These are often crafted with bright colors, engaging designs, and optimistic messages to grab viewers' attention immediately. The visual and emotional appeal of these commercials adds a powerful effect, making the food seem even more enticing.
2. Social Media Marketing: Existing platforms such as Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook allow fast food companies to create content that can go viral, reaching a vast audience. They also engage with consumers directly, fostering a sense of community and brand loyalty.
3. Limited-Time Offers and Promotions: To create a sense of urgency and exclusivity, these are intended to encourage consumers to visit their outlets or order online. They are usually advertised around upcoming holidays, major events, or even new product launches.
4. Sales and Product Deals: Fast food companies sometimes advertise sales promotions and value menus as a way to attract more customers & to increase sales volume, from discounted meal combos as well as combos presented in larger quantities for entire families.

Fast food advertisements employ the methods listed above to communicate to the public that, in a world where time is scarce and people are busier than ever before, the option to purchase a quick meal for breakfast, lunch, or dinner offers significant convenience.

Because who has the time to make home-cooked meals from scratch these days?​

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https://www.salon.com/2022/08/11/wh...-that-socialists-are-taking-over-the-country/

Might as well post the article itself since it's not a wall of text this time and it's worth spending a couple minutes reading.

Whole Foods co-founder and CEO John Mackey lamented that "socialists are taking over" nationwide and warned that the initiative is "just continuing" during Thursday's episode of a podcast with Reason Magazine.

"My concern is that I feel like socialists are taking over," Mackey told the magazine's editor-in-chief Nick Gillespie. "They're marching through the institutions. They're…taking over education. It looks like they've taken over a lot of the corporations. It looks like they've taken over the military. And it's just continuing."

"You know, I'm a capitalist at heart, and I believe in liberty and capitalism. Those are my twin values. And I feel like, you know, with the way freedom of speech is today, the movement on gun control, a lot of the liberties that I've taken for granted most of my life, I think, are under threat," he continued.

Mackey, who is stepping down as CEO at the end of August, has remained a vocal critic of socialism throughout the years.

During a November 2020 discussion organized by the American Enterprise Institute, Mackey proclaimed, "Socialism has been tried 42 times in the last 100 years, and 42 failures. It doesn't work. It's the wrong way. We have to keep capitalism. I would argue we need conscious capitalism." He then branded socialism as "trickle-up poverty" and said, "it just impoverishes everything."

On Thursday, Mackey also criticized the uptick in government unemployment benefits offered amid the pandemic, which he alleged made it difficult to hire more staff members at Whole Foods. He proceeded to make jabs at the nation's "younger generation," stating that they "don't seem to want to work" and echoing Kim Kardashian's advice for women in business.

"They only wanna work if it's really purposeful, and [something] they feel aligned to," Mackey said. "You can't hope to start with meaningful work. You're gonna have to earn it over time. Some of the younger generation doesn't seem to be willing to pay that price, and I don't know why."

Like clockwork, Mackey's statements spurred controversy across social media. On Twitter, many opposed his sentiments while others challenged his political takes.

"How ironic that I would love to live in the world apparently imagined to exist by so many leading capitalists," wrote Jacobin staff writer Luke Savage.

One user tweeted, "If the ridiculous prices aren't enough to keep you from shopping at Whole Foods, recent comments from the CEO, John Mackey, should be. He is 'deeply concerned' that 'socialists are taking over' the country. He clearly doesn't understand socialism so he should shut up."

"Damnit, just when I settle on a go-to grocery store that I can bike to easily for things we consume, some asshole, capitalism-drunk, CEO opens his mouth about issues that matter to me," said another Mackey critic. "I shouldn't be surprised, honestly..."

Mackey also made it clear during his podcast appearance that he'll be sharing more hot takes in the future, after he retires from his current position.

"Pretty soon, you're gonna hear about 'Crazy John' who's no longer muzzled," he said, laughing. "I've got six weeks. I can talk more about politics in six weeks than I can today."

 

[Toby D. Dog]

The definition of a campaign encompasses a series of activities, actions, or efforts that are strategically directed towards achieving a specific goal or objective.

In this case, the objective of these fast food advertisements is to well...sell fast food products to customers.

When this definition is applied to the realm of fast-food advertising, the primary objective of these fast-food companies becomes clear: these campaigns are designed to promote their products to consumers. To achieve this, fast food companies deploy a strategic mix of marketing techniques. Some of these include (but are not limited to):

1. TV Commercials/Youtube Advertisements: These are often crafted with bright colors, engaging designs, and optimistic messages to grab viewers' attention immediately. The visual and emotional appeal of these commercials adds a powerful effect, making the food seem even more enticing.
2. Social Media Marketing: Existing platforms such as Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook allow fast food companies to create content that can go viral, reaching a vast audience. They also engage with consumers directly, fostering a sense of community and brand loyalty.
3. Limited-Time Offers and Promotions: To create a sense of urgency and exclusivity, these are intended to encourage consumers to visit their outlets or order online. They are usually advertised around upcoming holidays, major events, or even new product launches.
4. Sales and Product Deals: Fast food companies sometimes advertise sales promotions and value menus as a way to attract more customers & to increase sales volume, from discounted meal combos as well as combos presented in larger quantities for entire families.

Fast food advertisements employ the methods listed above to communicate to the public that, in a world where time is scarce and people are busier than ever before, the option to purchase a quick meal for breakfast, lunch, or dinner offers significant convenience.

Because who has the time to make home-cooked meals from scratch these days?​

You shouldn't waffle for free my guy, you're a professional.