Nothing about the left is just. They just incite violence and enact it.
Keep day nightmaring mate.

Is it not oppression when I'm being told my feeling are invalid and my opinion means nothing?
If this assertion concern you talking about a subject that you are not related to. Then no its not. If we are talking about the opposite or a context of sexism and gaslighting by a man in your intimacy then yes.

The word cis has been weaponized by the left to insult people
No it has not. Noone will ever insulted you by calling you cis. You are in a moral panic. Plus, NO Cis people face oppression because they are cis specifically, so, AGAIN, lets not make a false equivalence here.

"You're opinion don't count because you a cis man." Like that invalidates people.
If your opinion as a cis is to delegitimate non cis people then yes, your opinion means absolutely NOTHING. You have ONE job as a cis people : to help non cis people feel accepted. If you are not doing that, you are doing the opposite and we don't need that kind of point of view.


We aren't raising strong kids anymore and I'm not sure how we found ourselves on this path
I'm alone
I'm unemployed
I'm mentally ill
I'm missed decades of my life

And still, I know that I'm stronger than any man who feel insecure because a woman once told them "men are trash".

Strenght is not about the physics or the perpetuation of traditional values. Strenght is about accepting our weaknesses, question ourself, help other grow up in an accepting society, rely on others to do what you can't, understand the problem of this world and CHALLENGE the status co !

I know my kids laugh at people who attempt to bully them, because they ain't got nothing on their momma lol. I threaten to get out of the car and dance in front of their friends. My oldest used to get mad at his online friends when they said things regarding his momma. I tried the son I don't care you don't need to care. That wasn't effective so, when ever he said something. My response was "Your momma."
Laughing at bully only work until the bullies start multiplying and throw punches.


Final thought: Stop telling people they need other validation to be. If you need validation from others you need to do some soul searching to understand yourself.
To what sentence of mine are you referencing to here ? People don't need our validation to exist. What are you talking about here ?


3.) Yes it steals people's voices away. They are afraid to say how certain things make them feel.
As long that people don't say hurtfull thing on people that are already oppressed by the same kind of arguments, they can say whatever they want.


4.) I will have to back up my words on what I said with this one. Bullying isn't ok. Because also it's not ok to scream fire in a crowded theater. I do think you generally got the idea of what I was saying though.
Indeed, I agree, bullying is not okay. The problem is that words can have a bullying effect. So we must be careful of what we say to people in situation of oppression (more specifically than others)

That's kinda dumb on them.
No its not, its not "dumb" to fall for a cult its human. All human on earth can fall for a cult no matter the intelligence.


Conclusion I hold my thoughts on people being able to say what they want to say, but there are very few things that deserve punishment.
By punishment I don't necessaraly means prison or sentence but consequences

When a star on a big movie project expresses genocidal views, itslogical for them to get consequences for their words and therefore for the compagny to get them out of the project.

When someone say transphobic things here, its logical for their post to be removed (even if it doesn't happen in this case)

You woke love to invent shit that doesn't exist.
Sure


Seems it doesn't fit your agenda too because you don't denounce them but you are the first to talk shit fake news about Israel.
Actually I do, but not here since Muslim here are tolerant on the contrary to far rightist like yourself.

And no, I do do fake news in contrary to you, what I say is always sourced and come from researches mate. I'm not the one denying a genocide that is happening right now, you are.


instead of telling you that you have the power to improve yourself and the sky is the limit
The liberal myth of the will. As if will can make you overcome your capitals when you are from the worker class... Liberals and their faith in meritocracy... sigh

:seriously:


And you can decide that?

Arrogant fuck
I don't have to decide anything. Cis is not an insult and its not used as an insult. Plus Cis people are not marginalized or oppressed because there are Cis. So I repeat, calling someone "Cis" is not "hurtfull" its a moral panic.


And if you have a problem with that, go tell that to trans people who are actually oppressed that some people feel insulted by the words "Cis", just to see how long they will laugh at you.



And straight men will differentiate due to their sexual preference?!
That would be logical yes, there is no other reason to differenciate trans from Cis.



And no, there are differences generally on average.
Not really no. Its conditionned to the higher competitive standards if I remember the study correctly.


My dislike for a circular definition thats essentially meaningless has nothing to do with my political leaning whatsoever.

Antilogiko strikes again
There is a circular definition only in your mind. Move on or educate yourself.


I find it more bearable because the people seem happy, while woke entertainers seem a bit more miserable.
They lack real problems
That's actually the opposite mate.

Its also due to the fact that "woke" are usually the ones that are tanking the oppressions in society and are the ones that are aware of it.. And when you live in a world where the far right and liberals (those who oppresses) dominates.. well... It can be quickly really depressing.
 
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Actually I do, but not here since Muslim here are tolerant on the contrary to far rightist like yourself.

And no, I do do fake news in contrary to you, what I say is always sourced and come from researches mate. I'm not the one denying a genocide that is happening right now, you are.
Hypocrite just admit that doesn't say shit about Muslims.

Admitted that does fake news.

Your source is your woke journal that is based on what they are feeling at the moment.

UN didn't blamed Israel for genocide then is not you that will tell they are wrong.
 
That would be logical yes, there is no other reason to differenciate trans from Cis.
medical reasons as well.

but yeah other than that i agree, we dont really need to treat them differently, i treat everyone with the same level of respect regardless of any categorization, unless they are being disrespectful to me first
 
the one calling pretty much everyone else antiscience is here denying the differences between males and females.

:okay:
Wrong.


Hypocrite just admit that doesn't say shit about Muslims.
I have nothing to say about muslim mate. My islamophobic phase is over, I'm not a liberal piece of work anymore.


Your source is your woke journal that is based on what they are feeling at the moment.
No, my sources are the non-governmental organizations and the reporter that are in place there mate. If you don't like that, chew on some wood.


UN didn't blamed Israel for genocide then is not you that will tell they are wrong.
YET*, the words you forgot is "yet". Again, what you fail to understand is that an investigation is in progress mate.
 
Not all offense taken are legitimate mate :)

There is nothing legitimate in being offended by someone calling you "Cis"
there is nothing legitimate in being offended for trans people by someone telling them they are still, biologically, the sex they arent identifying with.
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I have nothing to say about muslim mate. My islamophobic phase is over, I'm not a liberal piece of work anymore.
what about islam though?
 
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I have nothing to say about muslim mate. My islamophobic phase is over, I'm not a liberal piece of work anymore.
Muslim hate speech and you have nothing to say. Ok.

No, my sources are the non-governmental organizations and the reporter that are in place there mate. If you don't like that, chew on some wood.
Like I said. Woke journal. Activists driven by agenda. Greta Thumberg and shit like that.

YET*, the words you forgot is "yet". Again, what you fail to understand is that an investigation is in progress mate.
You are claiming that there is already a genocide going on and UN doesn't see that. If it happens in the future it is another story but right now nothing is happening.
 

Zemmi

GodMommie
@Logiko I think we work in different realities. I believe we have discussed theft or something of that nature that plagues inner cities once. You told me not to assume bad intentions about Dylan. Which I do really find her presentation of a woman offensive, much like how when black face was around they exaggerated the worst stereotypes and portrayed that. Or our discussions about employees as well.

You believe a utopia-like place is possible because people have good intentions. Where if everyone just cared more or did more it would make a better place. Throughout history, where did you learn the lie people have good intentions? People are self-serving by far.
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
@Logiko I think we work in different realities. I believe we have discussed theft or something of that nature that plagues inner cities once. You told me not to assume bad intentions about Dylan. Which I do really find her presentation of a woman offensive, much like how when black face was around they exaggerated the worst stereotypes and portrayed that. Or our discussions about employees as well.

You believe a utopia-like place is possible because people have good intentions. Where if everyone just cared more or did more it would make a better place. Throughout history, where did you learn the lie people have good intentions? People are self-serving by far.
This is why economies rooted in socialism or leftism never lasted long. It's dependent on everyone being fair and satisfied with their place in life, prioritizing the collective whole instead of the individual. It only took one person to want more and create a dictorship.

With China, North Korea, Nazi Germany and the USSR, power was concentrated to the state which is leftism, and allowed capitalistic growth under the strong watch of the government/state.
 
there is nothing legitimate in being offended for trans people by someone telling them they are still, biologically, the sex they arent identifying with.
1. you are mixing up sex and gender which is again a mistake
2. No one is offended here. Because I denounce transphobia doesn't mean that I'm offended or hurt lol. I'm only trying to do what's best in the case if a trans person happens to pass through here. You can say the most horrific things to me (like bob calling for my murder) and I would still be replying to you with a smile.

:shocking:
I know what I will get from this forum, there is no reason to feel offended or surprised by the bigotry here.


what about islam though?
What about Islam ?


Muslim hate speech and you have nothing to say. Ok.
Did you see any hate speech from muslim on this thread ?


Like I said. Woke journal. Activists driven by agenda. Greta Thumberg and shit like that.
Calling humanitary organization "activist driven by agenda", you gotta need to deliver a great dose of cynicism to say that...


You are claiming that there is already a genocide going on and UN doesn't see that
Yup, because I'm not the UN, I don't need an investigation to assess what is happening.


You believe a utopia-like place is possible because people have good intentions.
No. I believe that we can have a utopia because we have potential for goodness.

Me believing in a potential doesn't mean it doesn't exist.


Throughout history, where did you learn the lie people have good intentions? People are self-serving by far.
That's where you are wrong. Human are a social specie. Which means that good intention are not only the just thing to to for life to prevail, its the best way to act for the psecy to SURVIVE.

A thing that you might wanna be remember : People are at their best when they are at their worst.

if offense isn't taken then identifying someone based off of their sex shouldn't be offensive either

not that it is anyways
The offense is not about what you feel, its about the context of the offense.

That's why, in occident, lauging about christians is not the same as laughing about muslims.


@Logiko @Zemmi
you should still listen to this one.

actually everyone should, really interesting piece
I have, Tim michin is very talented.
But here he is actually explaining what I say through humor. He explain clearly the power of words : "words can break hearth", mainly talking about the "N" word. But of course he is making fun of the whole situation with the word "ginger" which is very clever and funny.

Plus he is a great musician, he is not only talking with words but through the music as well. Note the big jazzy inspiration for the music.

Really great piece as always from him.


This is why economies rooted in socialism or leftism never lasted long
:seriously:


It only took one person to want more and create a dictorship.
Or an ultra liberal oligarchy
 
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