Social police won't protect women when they are alone with a man that wants to hurt them.
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Technology has nothing to do with bringing chaos. With or without tech like you said without good ethics (fuck politics) chaos will be installed.
Fck technology tbh but I'd like to have a gun for self protection, thanks
 
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I don't think owning a weapon is necessarily a problem.
It's the lack of stringent controls.

It's not really "phobic" to say that we need comprehensive testing to prevent those whom have potentially disastrous mental health conditions from having guns. For their sake and those around them.
I agree but just to be sure what would be those conditions for you so one can't own a gun.

And we are talking about having it at home or walking around at town?
 
I agree but just to be sure what would be those conditions for you so one can't own a gun.

And we are talking about having it at home or walking around at town?
Home protection (private land). Public carry should ideally be only for those in high-risk jobs/situations that require it. At the same time, America has proven its somewhat necessary to have concealed carry.

But private property gun ownership should be allowed 100%.
 
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Home protection (private land). Public carry should ideally be only for those in high-risk jobs/situations that require it. At the same time, America has proven its somewhat necessary to have concealed carry.

But private property gun ownership should be allowed 100%.
Agreed but what about the conditions where you can't have it?
 
Agreed but what about the conditions where you can't have it?
You mean when you're deemed mentally unfit? Then that should extend to 'at home'. With an individual who is of sound ability to own a gun goes outside with it illegally, then that is a calculated risk; allowing someone who has clear psychological issues to have a gun at home is not.

We cannot infringe on freedom in favour of "protection". It is nothing but authoritarianism. Besides, those who mean you harm will always find a way, weapon prohibition or no.
 
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You mean when you're deemed mentally unfit? Then that should extend to 'at home'. With an individual who is of sound ability to own a gun goes outside with it illegally, then that is a calculated risk; allowing someone who has clear psychological issues to have a gun at home is not.

We cannot infringe on freedom in favour of "protection". It is nothing but authoritarianism. Besides, those who mean you harm will always find a way, weapon prohibition or no.
I am not so sure if I'm all freedom if that means less security.

And again what kind of mental issues would you consider uncapable to carry guns? Dementia? Down? Psychopatia?
 
I am not so sure if I'm all freedom if that means less security.

And again what kind of mental issues would you consider uncapable to carry guns? Dementia? Down? Psychopatia?
Then we're opposed on that point. Ultimately, I don't think prohibiting weapons makes the world safer. Just gives despots the chance to be armed when you cannot be.

As for conditions? I'm torn on that. Probably a myriad of personality disorders (primarily cluster-B ones), Dementia (as I have worked with dementia patients), and anything that causes audible or visual hallucinations. I guess anything that functions as a major impairment to cognitive thinking would also be under this umbrella?
 
Social police won't protect women when they are alone with a man that wants to hurt them.
Social politics are meant to prevent men from having this behavior in the first place mate. There is a sociological reason behind those behaviors they are not random social artefacts.

Technology has nothing to do with bringing chaos. With or without tech like you said without good ethics (fuck politics) chaos will be installed.
You have a hard time understanding what I say, let me be more precise.

Technology can't exist without someone managing it in the first place. This means that technology is just a tool.

This tool is neutral. But NOT the human behind it. So, if human are acting with bad ethics, the tool will be used to do bad things and will therefore bring apocalypse. On the contrary, if the human behind the tools are acting with very good ethics, the tool will be used to do very good things.

The point is that without good ethics (and therefore good politics) the technology will be use badly and can't bring good things.

So if you want more social and economical progress its possible but its not technology that you must focus on, but good politics.


It's not really "phobic" to say that we need comprehensive testing to prevent those whom have potentially disastrous mental health conditions from having guns. For their sake and those around them.
Indeed. More prevention are needed. Having guns is not a basic human right.
 
The right to protect yourself should be.
No. Its an open window to very toxic behaviors.

Gun are meant to kill, not to protect ourself. Creating the right for carrying firearm is explanation that nothing can be done politically to prevent insecurity to happen. This is not acceptable. We must fight insecurity by politics and not by violence.

We need hardcore gun control in the world.
 
No. Its an open window to very toxic behaviors.
It heavily depends on the society. Some other countries in Europe have similarly lax gun laws as the US yet they had no mass shooting issues before the constant news reports on US shootings gave rise to copycat shooters. A healthy society doesn't produce hundreds of mentally instable individuals who want to kill others for no apparent reason.
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Indeed. More prevention are needed. Having guns is not a basic human right.
Humans always defended themselves. Its completely natural
 
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