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I'll copy paste what I said to Van:
How important and wise do you believe you are to think that you are entitled to say to people how to live their struggle ?
There is only one lie in this situation and it reside in the mind of random people that think they know life so much better than people in difficult situation that they can coatch them out of of their own personal war. This is the lie of the savior. This is purely egotistical.
You want to know how to respect a person ?
Read One Piece
And act like Luffy. Do not tell people how they must live their struggle. Let them fight their OWN battle, don't interfere UNLESS they ask you for help or there are about to do something life threatening.
Remember than a fat person already knows that they are fat and that it is unhealthy
Love your family without condition.
Its the BEST way for you to show them your support.
How important and wise do you believe you are to think that you are entitled to say to people how to live their struggle ?
There is only one lie in this situation and it reside in the mind of random people that think they know life so much better than people in difficult situation that they can coatch them out of of their own personal war. This is the lie of the savior. This is purely egotistical.
You want to know how to respect a person ?
Read One Piece
And act like Luffy. Do not tell people how they must live their struggle. Let them fight their OWN battle, don't interfere UNLESS they ask you for help or there are about to do something life threatening.
Remember than a fat person already knows that they are fat and that it is unhealthy
Love your family without condition.
Its the BEST way for you to show them your support.
Loving the person and loving what they do are different things. I love my Brother, but when he was an addict, I did not support his actions. To love someone is to also try to stop them from doing something that is destroying themselves. It is not kindness, nor is it compassion, to sit by and practically endorse it.
If you are gaining your sense of morality from fucking One Piece, a manga developed for young people, then I don't know Logiko... I gotta disagree with you.
I won't tell people how to live their struggle, so to speak. But I will never endorse self-destructive actions (even if it's only my perception). I won't interfere with something like that, but it depends on the situation. If I see someone struggling, I'll ask if they want help. If they reject it, that's cool.
"Remember than a fat person already knows that they are fat and that it is unhealthy..." - Say this to the people who say you can be healthy at any weight, Logiko.
If you are gaining your sense of morality from fucking One Piece, a manga developed for young people, then I don't know Logiko... I gotta disagree with you.
I won't tell people how to live their struggle, so to speak. But I will never endorse self-destructive actions (even if it's only my perception). I won't interfere with something like that, but it depends on the situation. If I see someone struggling, I'll ask if they want help. If they reject it, that's cool.
"Remember than a fat person already knows that they are fat and that it is unhealthy..." - Say this to the people who say you can be healthy at any weight, Logiko.
This is a perfect example of the issue.
The addict identifies as : not an addict and perfectly healthy
Reality: is factually an addict and the abuse is slowly killing them.
You literally have to reject their identity if help can even begin. One side tells them the truth and gives them options on how he can improve/help themselves, but of course it's their choice. The other side tells them that they are perfect, society is the problem, and that we should change the definition of what an addict is to accommodate them. Then we have people walking around saying smoking, snorting coke etc. is perfectly healthy.
Denial is a very real thing, but it's ultimately up to the individual to choose.
The addict identifies as : not an addict and perfectly healthy
Reality: is factually an addict and the abuse is slowly killing them.
You literally have to reject their identity if help can even begin. One side tells them the truth and gives them options on how he can improve/help themselves, but of course it's their choice. The other side tells them that they are perfect, society is the problem, and that we should change the definition of what an addict is to accommodate them. Then we have people walking around saying smoking, snorting coke etc. is perfectly healthy.
Denial is a very real thing, but it's ultimately up to the individual to choose.
This is not the point.
Yes, and the solution is support. Not delegitimization.
No. To love someone is to understand their struggle and don't interfere unless there is a life threatenning situation. The addiction is the same principle. If you brother needs your help, be their for him, don't push your wishes on him.
Supporting doesn't mean endorsing. Its means understanding that you are not the one in control.
Only an ignorant think they knows everything and can't learn from stories or other people.
And nobody he asking you to do that. What we are asking is for you guys to stay away from our wars. And don't try to interfere, don't try to think that you know better than those who are suffering.
Love. Support. Trust.
If we need your help, we will ask. But that's ONLY if we feel supported.
That's why I want to understand this One Piece scene. Because Luffy fully understand how to support and we should ALL take example from him.
Very few people actually say that. Everyone know that obesity isn't safe. But everyone doesn't understand that we need to legitimate and accept even people in obesity. Remember that obesity is an illness, its not just lazyness. Also careful because a lot of time discussions about obesity are confused with discussion about people (mostly women) with curves. And no matter what those people will do, they CAN'T lose weight, so let's just be tolerant and don't push our wishes on people.
Yes, that something that is hard to understand when we are not used to be really inclusive. But calling a person "perfect" means that they completely worthy and legitimate. It doesn't means that they don't have things to work on, it means that we aknowledge their fights and their strenght.
Very few addict thinks that. Addict usually know that they have a problem. They just can't stop themself. And yes, they need help, but it must come from them. You can't help someone that doesn't want to be helped.
Telling them "the truth" is just you lashing out your frustration on them. It will change absolutely NOTHING.
And yes, society is the problem. In a sane society, people wouldn't feel the need to use addictive substances in the first place.
The only solution is not the easy one: Stand by their side even if its hard and tell them that you love and support them. And by stand by their side, I mean REALLY stand by their side. Meaning that you don't give up on them EVEN if they ask you to. Because its the only way to make them understand that you will be there no matter what.
Just like Luffy.
Yes, and the solution is support. Not delegitimization.
No. To love someone is to understand their struggle and don't interfere unless there is a life threatenning situation. The addiction is the same principle. If you brother needs your help, be their for him, don't push your wishes on him.
Supporting doesn't mean endorsing. Its means understanding that you are not the one in control.
Only an ignorant think they knows everything and can't learn from stories or other people.
And nobody he asking you to do that. What we are asking is for you guys to stay away from our wars. And don't try to interfere, don't try to think that you know better than those who are suffering.
Love. Support. Trust.
If we need your help, we will ask. But that's ONLY if we feel supported.
That's why I want to understand this One Piece scene. Because Luffy fully understand how to support and we should ALL take example from him.
Very few people actually say that. Everyone know that obesity isn't safe. But everyone doesn't understand that we need to legitimate and accept even people in obesity. Remember that obesity is an illness, its not just lazyness. Also careful because a lot of time discussions about obesity are confused with discussion about people (mostly women) with curves. And no matter what those people will do, they CAN'T lose weight, so let's just be tolerant and don't push our wishes on people.
Yes, that something that is hard to understand when we are not used to be really inclusive. But calling a person "perfect" means that they completely worthy and legitimate. It doesn't means that they don't have things to work on, it means that we aknowledge their fights and their strenght.
Very few addict thinks that. Addict usually know that they have a problem. They just can't stop themself. And yes, they need help, but it must come from them. You can't help someone that doesn't want to be helped.
Telling them "the truth" is just you lashing out your frustration on them. It will change absolutely NOTHING.
And yes, society is the problem. In a sane society, people wouldn't feel the need to use addictive substances in the first place.
The only solution is not the easy one: Stand by their side even if its hard and tell them that you love and support them. And by stand by their side, I mean REALLY stand by their side. Meaning that you don't give up on them EVEN if they ask you to. Because its the only way to make them understand that you will be there no matter what.
Just like Luffy.
obesity can be quite debilitating, even if you’re not 600+ lbs.
When I was 300+ lbs, I was diagnosed with severe obstructive sleep apnea. I stopped breathing in my sleep on average 53 times per hour. I was constantly drowsy and nearly fell asleep behind the wheel many times.
Saying that’s perfect is tbh a bit condescending
When I was 300+ lbs, I was diagnosed with severe obstructive sleep apnea. I stopped breathing in my sleep on average 53 times per hour. I was constantly drowsy and nearly fell asleep behind the wheel many times.
Saying that’s perfect is tbh a bit condescending